I seem to have a differing opinion to everyone else.

I’m not a very good writer like others but here I go. Also this isn’t to start argument but I respect other opinions and am happy to discuss but abuse I won’t reply too, we can have different opinions and still talk.

My opinion is completely different to everyone else in this forum by the looks as I actually enjoy the current football and think we aren’t in as dire a situation as everyone thinks.

Starting off I for one enjoyed the football at start of season under Steve morison I thought it was a more defensively organised version of our current style with the difference in our attack being Steve morison put an emphasis on getting the ball wide and swinging crosses in, all he was missing was a target in the box. Is that his fault? I doubt it, I’d imagine he knew what he needed but knowing what you need and getting what you need are two different things and by the looks he tried his hardest but the options weren’t out there that we could get. I know people will say hugill was available etc, but I’d imagine we’d have explored that avenue but for some reason, maybe hugill or Norwich didn’t want him to leave. Everyone saying at the start of the season morison was stupid for not getting a striker was beyond me he obviously knew that and was trying his best.

Now me saying this isn’t me saying with that we would’ve been the complete article and Steve morison would’ve won us the league or anything but I don’t believe the situation we were in was as bad as everyone’s making out. I agree with majority though about the reason why he was hoisted out was probably due to his attitude, although I personally wish he could’ve stayed.

The current style of football under mark Hudson I enjoy as well, how long have we begged for a style of football where we pass the ball on the floor instead of hoofing it forward? I for one would rather watch us get relegated like this than watch hoofball and get us promoted. A noticeable thing with fans around me In the stadium (that really grinds my gears) is when we have the ball around the half way line and then the defender passes back to the keeper so we can rebuild from the back,the whole stadium starts groaning, what do you want the player to do? Swing the ball back in aimlessly so we lose possession and then we moan at the player for putting a useless cross in? That player is in a lose lose situation it seems, he’s only doing what he’s told to do which is if the ball isn’t on don’t force it lets rebuild and try to break them down. Screaming from the stands GET IT FORWARD isn’t helping anyone we are trying to get away from that prehistoric football and everyone wanted that until there’s been a few bumps in the road now everyone wants to go back to hoofball is the current consensus this week

I see a lot of people saying we don’t make any chances, although it’s frustrating not every chance we get the ball it doesn’t make a goal scoring opportunity, that’s football though and no team makes a crazy amount of chances let alone us, even the like of Man City Liverpool etc don’t make crazy amount of goal scoring opportunities, the hardest part in football is in the final third and that’s why if you can make chances consistently you’ll be bagged by a top tier team.
That being said I think personally we make enough chances every game we have at least 2golden opportunities and sometimes many more. But because we either score 1 or less many fans complain we don’t create enough. In fact we create more than enough but our killer instinct isn’t there at the moment. This was also under Steve morison we made at least 3 or more chances every game but couldn’t finish them if our players did we would win every game because we limited other teams to less chances in most games. That’s all you got to realise is in these games we are watching how many chances are the other team getting? 1, 2 or 3? Same as us or less which shows it’s not easy and we are not far behind the curve at all.

I know lots currently blame the regime of the clubs hierarchy but in my honest opinion I have no idea about any of this all I can see is what others say so my opinion isn’t valid, but by this the opinions of 99% of our fan base is invalid too as we all seem to jump on the band wagon and repeat quotes from other people about the situation whereas only a few peoples opinion actually matter, for the rest of us we are just guessing or basing our knowledge on what someone else says when we have no concrete evidence.


In terms of our current position I am optimistic, everyone thinks we are in a relegation dog fight now and we are likely relegated? We have 22games left I think it’s crazy our own fans are writing us off, we are just a good run off the top 6 in all seriousness as well, this team is nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out, apart from shooting this current team is the best footballing Cardiff team I personally have ever seen (I have been a fan for 6years, since I was old enough to get to games, I never seen a game previous to those 6 years but no I have barely missed 1 or 2games in this period).

I for one am begging we stay with this style of football we would be the only team in the whole championship that plays hoofball if we reverted to that style, I can’t even think of one team that played that direct, perhaps Luton at a push but they don’t hoof it blindly.

I think our team is good enough and will always be behind our team, I hope the rest of you do too and show it in the stadium we need to try and give our players some encouragement and actually be the 12th man, thw atmosphere is usually dire this season let’s help the lads get some wins at home!

BLUEBIRDS

Nice post mate

Nice post mate

Thanks mate, too much negativity around on the bird at the moment, when there’s a lot to be happy about and have a positive outlook

Very good post.

I'm on the other side of the scale but that does not mean I enjoy reading opposite opinions providing its put over properly which your post has. This is what this forum is all about.

Great post and it's about fine margins ,take our chances and we would be near the top , need to be more clinical .

Good post with some good points

However, the stark reality is that we could/should have won the last three games but we didn’t win any of them!!

9pts would have put us mid table but 3pts mean we are in a relegation fight

Like most people I do think we have a reasonable squad that should be comfortable mid table but we aren’t clinical enough in either penalty box and inevitably that means we will struggle to stay up this season

Good post that. I too prefer our passing style compared to years of hoofball. And witnessed many years of fans screaming to play it short pass it around etc. But now the fickle fan base are starting to want glory hunts again and as warnock took us up with hoofball then that must be the right way to play. Yes you can tolerate it when results go your way but things turn sour quickly as proving now with our passing game. So yes I'm with you on this post let's keep playing the passing game and keep developing. If its lg1 next season then so be it. But lots of that league play football now not hoofball

Very good post.

I'm on the other side of the scale but that does not mean I enjoy reading opposite opinions providing its put over properly which your post has. This is what this forum is all about.

Exactly mate I know there’s always going to be different opinions just hope we can all support the same!

Great post and it's about fine margins ,take our chances and we would be near the top , need to be more clinical .

Precisely the way I feel if we were clinical we’d be in top 2 easily, hard to imagine

Good post with some good points

However, the stark reality is that we could/should have won the last three games but we didn’t win any of them!!

9pts would have put us mid table but 3pts mean we are in a relegation fight

Like most people I do think we have a reasonable squad that should be comfortable mid table but we aren’t clinical enough in either penalty box and inevitably that means we will struggle to stay up this season

Yes I completely agree we should have won some of the last 3games and even the 3/4 before that we should have won. That tells me how close we are though just need that little more cutting edge in the box and we will be talking about a promotion fight rather than relegation foght

Good post that. I too prefer our passing style compared to years of hoofball. And witnessed many years of fans screaming to play it short pass it around etc. But now the fickle fan base are starting to want glory hunts again and as warnock took us up with hoofball then that must be the right way to play. Yes you can tolerate it when results go your way but things turn sour quickly as proving now with our passing game. So yes I'm with you on this post let's keep playing the passing game and keep developing. If its lg1 next season then so be it. But lots of that league play football now not hoofball

It’s the end of the season that should matter really if anything, why like you said we as a fan base are so fickle after a few bad results or a bad run we call for managers head or abuse players or call for new style of football I can’t understand, it’s a long old season at the end of the day

I've also doubted my own thoughts on this seasons performances, reading so many people having different opinions to myself I started to think I was wrong, but I'm enjoying the football we are playing I am just frustrated that we lack that cutting edge up front while also frustrated that we switch off at times at the back conceding silly goals, however box to box I think we have done very well considering all the new players that have come in.

I believe we will give someone a hiding soon

Good post apart from the part where you say you have ‘I have a different opinion to Everyone else’.Quite a few agree with lots you say.

Good post apart from the part where you say you have ‘I have a different opinion to Everyone else’.Quite a few agree with lots you say.

Appears that way now, seems nobody with this sort of opinion speaks to much, it’s always very negative what I see on here saying how bade we are everywhere

For someone who said he wasn't a writer that's one hell of a good post, although I disagree with most of it, but that's what these things are meant for.

IMO the championship is a power league, you need to have a set amount of physicality, and those that have better-skilled players or a great game plan and set plays with that physicality are normally floating around the top.

I think it's a total misnomer that the championship is more physical than the premier league, the premier league is as physical but with even better technical players, this is why teams struggle to when they are promoted because the PL teams are faster, stronger and technically better. That's why they are premier league players and get the biggest bucks in Europe on average.

For clubs in our current situation, it's a trade-off between better athletes or better technical footballers, those who have both are in the premier league (that's why we had Whitts for so long). IMO we haven't got this blend right. For all our great footballing moments, we still get overpowered far too much and we are not Swansea who are out on an extreme footballing purist experiment.

I can't believe I am saying this but give me Callum Patterson instead of Etete and Sean Morrison pre-injury instead of Perry and we are a much more balanced team and we may have the glimmers of a set play team again which is a must for any professional outfit.

Callum Robinson has a poor conversion rate but he earns the right because he always manages to get into the right position unlike our other strikers and thats the problem, the other are not at the races and we can't play CR as a target man because he isn't but someone needs to pin the centre halfs.

I think Morison was extremely naive in recruitment and it is almost a kid's fantasy squad where we turn into Barca of the championship, sadly you need to earn the right to play. We need a big ugly seasoned (even L1) center-forward and i think we'll be OK as we are not a million miles away, but I am not sure if we are allowed to get one.

I've also doubted my own thoughts on this seasons performances, reading so many people having different opinions to myself I started to think I was wrong, but I'm enjoying the football we are playing I am just frustrated that we lack that cutting edge up front while also frustrated that we switch off at times at the back conceding silly goals, however box to box I think we have done very well considering all the new players that have come in.

I believe we will give someone a hiding soon

I know how you feel with the doubt most games I’ve watched thinking we were so close to wins or so close to a perfect performance then listened to boos at end of games or read forums or twitter and thought, was we really that bad

I'm with you 100 percent pal, Ive said on other threads it's just not quite dropping for us. Either that bit of luck, half a yard off or a millisecond too slow. I believe we are close and optimistic for rest of season. The league is so tight that 2 or 3 wins will put us as play off contenders.

For someone who said he wasn't a writer that's one hell of a good post, although I disagree with most of it, but that's what these things are meant for.

IMO the championship is a power league, you need to have a set amount of physicality, and those that have better-skilled players or a great game plan and set plays with that physicality are normally floating around the top.

I think it's a total misnomer that the championship is more physical than the premier league, the premier league is as physical but with even better technical players, this is why teams struggle to when they are promoted because the PL teams are faster, stronger and technically better. That's why they are premier league players and get the biggest bucks in Europe on average.

For clubs in our current situation, it's a trade-off between better athletes or better technical footballers, those who have both are in the premier league (that's why we had Whitts for so long). IMO we haven't got this blend right. For all our great footballing moments, we still get overpowered far too much and we are not Swansea who are out on an extreme footballing purist experiment.

I can't believe I am saying this but give me Callum Patterson instead of Etete and Sean Morrison pre-injury instead of Perry and we are a much more balanced team and we may have the glimmers of a set play team again which is a must for any professional outfit.

Callum Robinson has a poor conversion rate but he earns the right because he always manages to get into the right position unlike our other strikers and thats the problem, the other are not at the races and we can't play CR as a target man because he isn't but someone needs to pin the centre halfs.

I think Morison was extremely naive in recruitment and it is almost a kid's fantasy squad where we turn into Barca of the championship, sadly you need to earn the right to play. We need a big ugly seasoned (even L1) center-forward and i think we'll be OK as we are not a million miles away, but I am not sure if we are allowed to get one.

You are too kind, ask me to read it out loud and I wont be able to pronounce half the words

Like you said that’s what this is about disagreeing and discussing. And don’t get me wrong, I don’t think our play is perfect nowhere near I know where we are lacking, I like to think I have a realistic view, this was just a lot of my positives which I don’t think there a re a lot more than people give the team credit for!

TBF I agree with your take o the championship you are completely right it is a physical league and that is one of our very clear weaknesses that teams can try exploit us on, we are a physicsally weak team bar a minority of players. Kipre and Odowda are the stand out physically strong players to me as is wintle but he doesn’t involved in the box for set pieces.
I can definitely see where your coming from with the trade-off between players we do look pretty on the ball but you do need that physical side as well which we do lack. This isn’t me encouraging hoofball whatsoever but we do lack aggression in set pieces defending and attacking them which is the most nervous part when watching us at home.

With etete though I am glad hes getting a chance and I think he has shown himself to be a half decent 9 for us in these two games, yes there is a lot to work on but I hope he will only be improving on his deficits. For example his physicality has come on leaps and bounds already since we first signed him, still not up there with where he should be at this level but he is definitely competing a lot more and getting stronger! His finishing is obviously in need of improvement but he is not the finished article as the games continue and he gets more chances his confidence and composure will improve, I honestly think we have a good prospect on our hands, lets give him time!

I do like Perry NG as well I can see where your coming from because that’s his big flaw is the physicality in both boxes which is why hes targeted. However I admire him on the ball and he is confident at playing our style whereas I cant imagine Sean Morrison that way, it’s a give or take with which one of those would start. You lose one aspect of the game but gain another which ever you play.

Callum Robinson has been phenomenal signing for us (except Swansea ofc) and he s only looking better being able to play off Etete because he clearly is not a target man, he will be producing for us the rest of this season, keeping him fit is key!
I can see where your coming from and that’s what I was thinking about a striker we need too, although im sure as I said In OP Steve Morison was well aware of that and that’s what he wanted but could not get. Im hoping Etete can be the mix between the big striker and a decent footballing striker, he has the attributes just needs to keep improving and im sure he will be leaving us in a few years for a hefty fee and we will rue the day we lost him.

I still stand by my belief Morison has done as best as he could with recruitment theres still improvements or better signings ofc but with a massive task he had of making 17 signings i think he done phenomenal really so we have to agree to disagree on that one

I'm with you 100 percent pal, Ive said on other threads it's just not quite dropping for us. Either that bit of luck, half a yard off or a millisecond too slow. I believe we are close and optimistic for rest of season. The league is so tight that 2 or 3 wins will put us as play off contenders.

Exactly what im thinking mate its painfully close on so many occassions. it just has to start dropping to us soon and we get on the right side of the luck, or we make our own luck like i believe we will.

That’s a great post and some things are spot on, everyone do have their own opinions and that’s good. I agree with all that you’ve said and I think that we are just one striker short of something great happening here. I’m not worried one bit about our current league position as everyone is beating everyone, that’s how close the league is. Neither am I worried about the finances of the club as I don’t worry about things I have no control over, although I want Tan to sell up to someone that can take us to the next step I’m also not bothered whether he stays as long as he starts taking an interest in us again.
In summary, your post is excellent

Agree with op....with morison was given more time but I think Hudson will get the season and I think we will improve to a mid table position by the end.

Great post and it's about fine margins ,take our chances and we would be near the top , need to be more clinical .

Precisely the way I feel if we were clinical we’d be in top 2 easily, hard to imagine

Our general play I good just not taking our chances imagine a Chopra or earnie type player in this team would score loads.

Great post and it's about fine margins ,take our chances and we would be near the top , need to be more clinical .

Precisely the way I feel if we were clinical we’d be in top 2 easily, hard to imagine

Our general play I good just not taking our chances imagine a Chopra or earnie type player in this team would score loads.

Slightly off-piste, but where would a 20 years old, 9st Earnie play in today's obsession with 4231 or 433?

In my day nearly every team had a Target man and an off the shoulder fox in the box type.

Great Post mate the only thing I may disagree with is the fact that if hoof ball works and we win I'm happy to watch it above the more asthetic football we're seeing at present. Far to much negativity on here at present. I understand football is all about results but we have no god given right to championship football we have to earn it, I am still hopeful we will.

Agree with a lot of that - not the relegation or promotion bit though. Winning games of football is enjoyable regardless of the style of play.

We've completely changed the style of play with a major overhaul of the first 11 and squad. Rome wasn't built in a day. We need to build on this squad and not revert back to Longball football and another overhaul of players. The constant change in playing philosophy is one of the reasons we are in this mess. Still think we are a Higill type striker away from being a decent team.

I dont know if you remember Paul Trollope , had amazing coaching ability apparently, when he became a manager he promised a new type of football. More akin to the tippy tappy / jack b'stard approch . This was the future we were told aka 'modern football'.
Under Trollope the football was dire to watch and clearly didnt work, before that we had Slade I believe and his idea of football was ... well no one knew - even to this day people are scratching their heads.
Then along came Warnock the old dinosaur with his old (to quote your goodself) "Hoofball" , we were in the bottom 3 when he took over around xmas. The following season we were promoted.

Ask anyone what success looks like over the last 10 years - and the answers are Mackay and Warnock. Not Slade, Trollope, McCarthy, Morison or Hudson. I do get your point - but what I watch in front of me each week - is hardly worth the entrance fee. I can see the players are trying - but even their heads are dropping now when they walk round the pitch at the end of the game. Just my 2p worth - but I cant see it changing for the better any time soon - unless Isaccs and Co make a difference when they come back.

I'm with u.. I love the football we are starting to develop.. Much easier on the eye.. And will improve I believe.. A good boisterous captain would help though.. If we went back to the hoof ball dark age.. I think I would have to call it a day

Good post bluebirdroyal ,the truth is if we were winning every week we d all be happy and agree ,well written mate

Good post bluebirdroyal ,the truth is if we were winning every week we d all be happy and agree ,well written mate