Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:34 pm
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:07 pm
Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:18 pm
Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:20 pm
Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:39 pm
wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:40 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
I thought that he’d said that money had been put aside for this.
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:20 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:39 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:50 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
All arrangement were made by nantes selling agent he was at nantes traing ground , the flight was illegal
Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:31 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
All arrangement were made by nantes selling agent he was at nantes traing ground , the flight was illegal
Actually I agree of course the flight was illegal.
Show me where Nantes arranged it please ?
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:27 pm
Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
All arrangement were made by nantes selling agent he was at nantes traing ground , the flight was illegal
Actually I agree of course the flight was illegal.
Show me where Nantes arranged it please ?
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:37 pm
piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
All arrangement were made by nantes selling agent he was at nantes traing ground , the flight was illegal
Actually I agree of course the flight was illegal.
Show me where Nantes arranged it please ?
The agent who arranged it was acting on Nantes instructions and being paid by them.
That is where this part of the dispute is going.
Now I don’t know whether this will be successful but it’s the first part of the arguments that will come before a variety of courts/tribunals in the coming months/years.
As I have said time and time again, this will not be resolved any time soon.
However, if we don’t win the outstanding decision due Jan/Feb the embargo may mean that Tan has to consider paying that initial instalment and hope we get it back during the ongoing litigation.
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:00 pm
Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:09 am
welshrarebit wrote:Regardless of the legalities and the horrific human costs of things. We are unwittingly the innocent parties and seemingly guilty only of an administrative oversight I.e failure to insure him as callous as that sounds.
We signed a player in good faith. Offered him transport back which was declined. The organising agent then stuck him on a wholly dangerous and ill equipped plane with a wholly dangerous and ill equipped pilot.
We then are in the shit for 15 million.
Regardless of what you think of tan. I think most would seek to minimise financial liability.
Sorry if that annoys people. I don’t mean to. But our club didn’t ask for any of this. All we did was sign a player. This should have been dealt with a long time ago and perhaps we should have been in talks with Nantes to soften the blow or gone after the broker immediately.
Why don’t we have a policy that automatically covers a player as soon as he signs? A car dealer can have a policy that covers them on any car they drive without letting the insurer know. They have similar policies in the states for example.
Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:19 am
Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:39 am
Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:38 pm
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
Neil Warnock's part in all of this should be questioned...
The inflated purchase fee for starters, as well as his links to McKay and the employment of the two parks players
Wed Dec 21, 2022 5:16 pm
JulesK wrote:Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Ninian27 wrote:Now that CAS have declared Sala was our player and the contract was valid all along, that lets Nantes out as they could argue that the undischarged bankrupt agent, who we would never get a penny from anyway, was no longer acting for them.
The proposed litigation against the Insurance brokers smacks of desperation so it seems to me only one outcome is likely, Tan having to pay up, how can Dalman say we haven’t got the money?
It actually opens nantes up to be sued
Sued for what Wez?
When Sala flew back to Uk, Sala was officially our player.
The agents were Warnocks mates and had two players playing for us at that time.
Neil Warnock's part in all of this should be questioned...
The inflated purchase fee for starters, as well as his links to McKay and the employment of the two parks players
If have been saying this for ages but no one ever doubts The Messiah.
Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:10 pm
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:34 pm
JulesK wrote:Got any of the answers to share?
Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:04 am
Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:45 am
JulesK wrote:Cheers for that Chris missed those.
Personally I still think he is up to his neck in this but will he get thrown under the bus or be too clever for the McKays?
Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:00 am