For those who keep saying it’s:

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

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Sadly it needs to get worse for those that stick up for the regime to admit its all going wrong.

Our board falls under the category "The Truth is what we tell you" but we all know how that will end.

If we survive this season it will be some miracle although I do feel it is delaying the obvious. If we end up in League One then I'm expecting us to remain there for a decade.

This can only end up going one way for our club under this bunch of idiots, the fans need to rise and us younger ones need to demonstrate against these idiots

This can only end up going one way for our club under this bunch of idiots, the fans need to rise and us younger ones need to demonstrate against these idiots

The younger ones are our future. Time for them to step up to the mark just like our older ones did in their time.

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

Wez, just wait and see .

Under the current ownership we are heading in one direction and its not up, I really fear for our club and its the laughing stock of not just uk football but worldwide. Not paying our transfer fees then refusing to accept the player is ours and now taking everyone and everything to court, surely tan can see this not only makes cardiff city look bad but him as a person/businessman. If I was a businessman I wouldn't want anything to do with him as most things turn salty and to sh*t

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

Don’t forget he took 54 million out of the club.

Literally no one is now defending Tan. It’s a shambles.

Correcting mistruths is not defending Tan.

We aren’t in high court yet for non payment of tax or close to administration then we will be as bad as we have been in the past.

However, we are a shambles and the silence is shocking.

Thankfully as the creditor Tan is responsible. It’s his mess and he needs to sort it.

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

Don’t forget he took 54 million out of the club.

Literally no one is now defending Tan. It’s a shambles.

Correcting mistruths is not defending Tan.

We aren’t in high court yet for non payment of tax or close to administration then we will be as bad as we have been in the past.

However, we are a shambles and the silence is shocking.

Thankfully as the creditor Tan is responsible. It’s his mess and he needs to sort it.

And the 54 million was debunked by kieth , Tan is in a hole of around 200 million his next play will decide how much losses he walks away with if he decides to sell he might bring an investor on board instead tho .

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

Don’t forget he took 54 million out of the club.

Literally no one is now defending Tan. It’s a shambles.

Correcting mistruths is not defending Tan.

We aren’t in high court yet for non payment of tax or close to administration then we will be as bad as we have been in the past.

However, we are a shambles and the silence is shocking.

Thankfully as the creditor Tan is responsible. It’s his mess and he needs to sort it.

And the 54 million was debunked by kieth , Tan is in a hole of around 200 million his next play will decide how much losses he walks away with if he decides to sell he might bring an investor on board instead tho .

That was tongue in cheek.

Agree with much said and while I was against the rebrand, how did the rebrand cost us millions?

It resulted in increased investment, promotion, increased crowds, sponsorship, and revenues.

It’s all Tans money so there is No problem:


IT’S 100% NOT TRUE:




Our Club owes Dalman approx £25mill-£30mins ( you will see in next accounts) plus high interest of 9%.
Our Club also owes other creditors £25mill plus interest.

Now we owe Nantes Fc ,£15mill all now owed as 3 yrs have gone. Plus 5% interest which is £millions, club solicitors, Tans solicitors, solicitors acting in different countries. We have to pay Nantes Fc legal costs, Court costs.

FIFA Hearing, SAS Hearing and finally The Supreme Court in Switzerland, all cases lost as Tan put forward that Emiliano Sala was not our player, but Sala was from day one as he was registered with Welsh FA.
We owed the money from day one.
City now owe anything up to £25mill.


Court case after court case with managers, Langston, managers like Ole being paid off £3.5mill.

The Rebrand cost our club £millions upon £millions.


The Transfer Committee have been beyond a joke and have £millions as well.



The money wasted by the Hierarchy is beyond.


All these costs, fines, interest etc in court cases.



We are in deep trouble and the only reason for this is how badly our club has been run.

Surely those who stuck up for the Regime will finally see it.

12 different managers and 6 CEO’S were all under Tans command.



If we are relegated then we will be even worth less.

We don't owe dalman that amount he's been paid off a large portion of it according to the last accounts

Don’t forget he took 54 million out of the club.

Literally no one is now defending Tan. It’s a shambles.

Correcting mistruths is not defending Tan.

We aren’t in high court yet for non payment of tax or close to administration then we will be as bad as we have been in the past.

However, we are a shambles and the silence is shocking.

Thankfully as the creditor Tan is responsible. It’s his mess and he needs to sort it.

And the 54 million was debunked by kieth , Tan is in a hole of around 200 million his next play will decide how much losses he walks away with if he decides to sell he might bring an investor on board instead tho .

That was tongue in cheek.

So was mine

Agree with much said and while I was against the rebrand, how did the rebrand cost us millions?

It resulted in increased investment, promotion, increased crowds, sponsorship, and revenues.

It’s a fact so don’t question it Tan lover.

Don’t forget the 50 who gave their season tickets back.

Agree with much said and while I was against the rebrand, how did the rebrand cost us millions?

It resulted in increased investment, promotion, increased crowds, sponsorship, and revenues.

It’s a fact so don’t question it Tan lover.

Don’t forget the 50 who gave their season tickets back.

Right so changing our colours got us to the Premier. Lucky Red hey.

We would have got to the Premier without the Rebrand and would have most likely stayed there.

Agree with much said and while I was against the rebrand, how did the rebrand cost us millions?

It resulted in increased investment, promotion, increased crowds, sponsorship, and revenues.

It’s a fact so don’t question it Tan lover.

Don’t forget the 50 who gave their season tickets back.

Right so changing our colours got us to the Premier. Lucky Red hey.

We would have got to the Premier without the Rebrand and would have most likely stayed there.

I remember Tan saying to Me personally, Red is lucky, Red is the way forward, Red is the future, what a clown

Agree with much said and while I was against the rebrand, how did the rebrand cost us millions?

It resulted in increased investment, promotion, increased crowds, sponsorship, and revenues.

The rebrand:

Cost our club a fortune in changing everything.
Our sales of home shirts lowest ever sales of shirts in the Premiership, we made 10,000, sold less than 5,000, rest were given to South Africa.

Merchandise sales were low for 4 yrs, for a team doing so well, I know for a fact they were atrocious.
I know the club souvenir / merchandise sales reached £millions when we got promoted in Blue.
It’s not just shirt sales.


Then the change back to Blue.

Inside and outside the club on both occasions cost fortunes to change everything.

Agree with all of this. Tan lovers surely it’s time to agree too.what I will add for me personally is compared to when Sam was n charge up to the rebrand there was about 15 of us meeting up for games, I’m like Billy no mates going to games these days, all those friends stopped going because of Tans lucky red, wanting goalies to score, interfering with tactics an Asian dragon on our badge. And then there’s some who just say the football is just to painful to watch,not entertaining, visiting fans outsing us, our atmosphere has gone, CCS a morgue, even Canton on match day the fun and buzz has gone. I agree with all of it, though I still go, the fun that I used to have even in League 1 has definitely gone. And with the cost of living that has to be justified. This Sala business whilst tragic and Sad is becoming excrutiating. . All those guys spend their season ticket cash on Wales home and away because it oozes fun.

Please Mr Tan, pay the Sala money every penny. Then please listen to your family and sell up and take Dalman with you, your project has not worked. Compare the day you took over to today. We were in less debt , had our badge and despite the issues we had back then, it was more fun. Even Ridsdale communicated better to the clubs loyal customers than you do. That’s right the fans, loyal customers and because of you we are dwindling. We need a rebrand like Together stronger , Toshack/Speed/Coleman FAW were in a similar state, then look what happened! Even the rebirth of terrace culture and fashion, travelling in numbers away, it’s fun enough to make the egg chasers envious. Yma o Hyd. Now that was how to rebrand, and after Euro 16 we could have ridden on the coat tails of that amazing tournament , we share a stadium ffs!

And look at he state of CCS on the outside, grotty and unloved. Faded badges and lettering, sums us up.

Still, onwards and upwards keep the faith

Ahhh well its nice to be told something new its supposed to be season of goodwill ??

It now seems all but the obvious are now singing from the same hymn sheet.

Tan has been an absolute clown of an owner, showing no respect for the club or its fans. Telling at best half truths, tbinking we all like sheep will follow.

An owner who wanted to be tactician, manager, DOF... and only took on ma agers who would allow him to get away with it.

Pitiful if no investment in players or managers..... then telling we should be lucky.

Times are now changing. Tan has literally zero support. Now is the time to see Tan gone.

if we are in debt to Tan and others for all that money etc - then if Tan pulls the plug - we are toast.
No one would buy the club - other than a fire sale, it's all beginning to look a bit negative again isnt it.

Better the devil you know perhaps

I recon its his revenge for us going against the rebrand. He'll leave us with no club and laugh while he's doing g it.

I recon its his revenge for us going against the rebrand. He'll leave us with no club and laugh while he's doing g it.

Oh come on tan is 200 million down how can that be revenge he's spent money since we returned to blue .

if we are in debt to Tan and others for all that money etc - then if Tan pulls the plug - we are toast.
No one would buy the club - other than a fire sale, it's all beginning to look a bit negative again isnt it.

Better the devil you know perhaps

Agree

I recon its his revenge for us going against the rebrand. He'll leave us with no club and laugh while he's doing g it.

His mum will ne not happy

One way to rejuvenate the singing, move the Canton to the Ninian Stand opposite the away fans. Would the council allow this?

One way to rejuvenate the singing, move the Canton to the Ninian Stand opposite the away fans. Would the council allow this?

Have you been hiding under a rock?

This has been discussed and debated many, many times and will never happen.

Ever since we were relegated from the premier league Tan has kept his distance from our club, and yes memet said in an interview during this season that window after window we will struggle with money issues. Also fans saying where would we be without Tan... well we would be in a better place with an owner dedicated to the club who turns up at games pumps money into the club for transfers and get this squad fighting at the top of this league instead of doing everything on the cheap for season after season. A new owner would simply make us a top quality club like we were 10 years ago.

End of the day we fans would love nothing more than to see our club fighting back where it belongs at the top and all the owner wants to do is suck this club dry of all its assets to recoup money he lost from managers throughout the years.

Ever since we were relegated from the premier league Tan has kept his distance from our club, and yes memet said in an interview during this season that window after window we will struggle with money issues. Also fans saying where would we be without Tan... well we would be in a better place with an owner dedicated to the club who turns up at games pumps money into the club for transfers and get this squad fighting at the top of this league instead of doing everything on the cheap for season after season. A new owner would simply make us a top quality club like we were 10 years ago.

End of the day we fans would love nothing more than to see our club fighting back where it belongs at the top and all the owner wants to do is suck this club dry of all its assets to recoup money he lost from managers throughout the years.

Fucks sake Sam can I have some of what you are on please?

The day Dalmans Charlton buy fell through he should have been sacked as he has no interest, the atmosphere Saturday was shocking, you could literally just hear people chatting away. After Madines little performance he should have terrorised on the pitch and off it but not a peep either way.

We are going down if this continues, Hudson shows no enthusiasm on the side at all just hands in pocket stood there