Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:33 pm
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:48 pm
Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:59 pm
piledriver64 wrote:I think that’s a forlorn hope !! Sam taking over would be just as divisive as Tan staying !!
If Tan is going I would much rather a brand new owner/owners to herald a whole new, positive, start for the club.
I don’t see how reverting to a previous owner can be welcomed as a forward step for the club.
Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:04 pm
Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:14 pm
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:27 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:23 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 7:36 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:16 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:11 am
piledriver64 wrote:I think that’s a forlorn hope !! Sam taking over would be just as divisive as Tan staying !!
If Tan is going I would much rather a brand new owner/owners to herald a whole new, positive, start for the club.
I don’t see how reverting to a previous owner can be welcomed as a forward step for the club.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:13 am
Bassaleg Blue wrote:Your having a laugh Sam coming back to Cardiff our club we should be looking into the future not the past i can’t see how this would be good for our club
Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:20 am
maccydee wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I think that’s a forlorn hope !! Sam taking over would be just as divisive as Tan staying !!
If Tan is going I would much rather a brand new owner/owners to herald a whole new, positive, start for the club.
I don’t see how reverting to a previous owner can be welcomed as a forward step for the club.
Where are they though?
There are many positives to Sam (if he has the money others have alluded to) and obviously some negatives (what happened before). I wonder how divisive it would be?
He will be hands on for sure.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:31 am
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I think that’s a forlorn hope !! Sam taking over would be just as divisive as Tan staying !!
If Tan is going I would much rather a brand new owner/owners to herald a whole new, positive, start for the club.
I don’t see how reverting to a previous owner can be welcomed as a forward step for the club.
Where are they though?
There are many positives to Sam (if he has the money others have alluded to) and obviously some negatives (what happened before). I wonder how divisive it would be?
He will be hands on for sure.
Some negatives? He may have rejuvinated the club for a bit but it was at a cost and turned the club into a circus with stupid antics... there are lots of fans who wouldnt welcome him back why would they? Guess some want him back firstly to get rid tan and hark back at previous days ...... as they say should never go back in this case most definitely dont...
Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:21 am
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I think that’s a forlorn hope !! Sam taking over would be just as divisive as Tan staying !!
If Tan is going I would much rather a brand new owner/owners to herald a whole new, positive, start for the club.
I don’t see how reverting to a previous owner can be welcomed as a forward step for the club.
Where are they though?
There are many positives to Sam (if he has the money others have alluded to) and obviously some negatives (what happened before). I wonder how divisive it would be?
He will be hands on for sure.
Some negatives? He may have rejuvinated the club for a bit but it was at a cost and turned the club into a circus with stupid antics... there are lots of fans who wouldnt welcome him back why would they? Guess some want him back firstly to get rid tan and hark back at previous days ...... as they say should never go back in this case most definitely dont...
If he did take us back over he should get fair treatment.
What if it went really well?
I think he rejuvenated the club for a generation.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:33 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:41 am
Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:44 am
TheHangedMan wrote:The opening post of this thread by Maccydee sums it up quite well for me.
Until Sam came along we were going only one way, down to the non league dungeons. Look at Wrexham, once there it's bloody hard to get out. Sam revitalised our club, brought us all together and, whilst it was a rollercoaster, there was never a dull moment. I loved those days.
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial melt down but it certainly was dark on black Friday when Kavanagh went and we were staring into a financial abyss.
Thank God that Tan came along and saved us, and furthermore pumped money in which helped Malky get us to the promised land.
With all that said, there is a major difference between the two guys. One has a love for our club and the other has a love for the Premier League and the trappings that go with it.
If I went through life without giving people 2nd chances I'd be a fool.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:29 pm
pembroke allan wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:The opening post of this thread by Maccydee sums it up quite well for me.
Until Sam came along we were going only one way, down to the non league dungeons. Look at Wrexham, once there it's bloody hard to get out. Sam revitalised our club, brought us all together and, whilst it was a rollercoaster, there was never a dull moment. I loved those days.
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial melt down but it certainly was dark on black Friday when Kavanagh went and we were staring into a financial abyss.
Thank God that Tan came along and saved us, and furthermore pumped money in which helped Malky get us to the promised land.
With all that said, there is a major difference between the two guys. One has a love for our club and the other has a love for the Premier League and the trappings that go with it.
If I went through life without giving people 2nd chances I'd be a fool.
It's not about 2nd chances its about going back and the likelihood of decisiveness caused by his return... but what must not forget he lied to the fans (Langston) he also lied to Wimbledon fans as I said the similarities between clubs is very close... to me it wasnt love of club it was the love for himself he craved the adulation.... which remarkably as parallels with tan? Both wanted fan adulation but went about it in different ways... I lived in Wimbledon at the time and believe me he wasn't loved as much as people make out.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:19 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:The opening post of this thread by Maccydee sums it up quite well for me.
Until Sam came along we were going only one way, down to the non league dungeons. Look at Wrexham, once there it's bloody hard to get out. Sam revitalised our club, brought us all together and, whilst it was a rollercoaster, there was never a dull moment. I loved those days.
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial melt down but it certainly was dark on black Friday when Kavanagh went and we were staring into a financial abyss.
Thank God that Tan came along and saved us, and furthermore pumped money in which helped Malky get us to the promised land.
With all that said, there is a major difference between the two guys. One has a love for our club and the other has a love for the Premier League and the trappings that go with it.
If I went through life without giving people 2nd chances I'd be a fool.
It's not about 2nd chances its about going back and the likelihood of decisiveness caused by his return... but what must not forget he lied to the fans (Langston) he also lied to Wimbledon fans as I said the similarities between clubs is very close... to me it wasnt love of club it was the love for himself he craved the adulation.... which remarkably as parallels with tan? Both wanted fan adulation but went about it in different ways... I lived in Wimbledon at the time and believe me he wasn't loved as much as people make out.
We won't agree on this Allan and you are entitled to your opinion and fears. IMHO, assuming the money is there, I would not be adverse to Sam having another go.
Let's face it, at the moment the feel good factor around the club is either zero, or even worse slipping into the negative.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:19 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:The opening post of this thread by Maccydee sums it up quite well for me.
Until Sam came along we were going only one way, down to the non league dungeons. Look at Wrexham, once there it's bloody hard to get out. Sam revitalised our club, brought us all together and, whilst it was a rollercoaster, there was never a dull moment. I loved those days.
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial melt down but it certainly was dark on black Friday when Kavanagh went and we were staring into a financial abyss.
Thank God that Tan came along and saved us, and furthermore pumped money in which helped Malky get us to the promised land.
With all that said, there is a major difference between the two guys. One has a love for our club and the other has a love for the Premier League and the trappings that go with it.
If I went through life without giving people 2nd chances I'd be a fool.
It's not about 2nd chances its about going back and the likelihood of decisiveness caused by his return... but what must not forget he lied to the fans (Langston) he also lied to Wimbledon fans as I said the similarities between clubs is very close... to me it wasnt love of club it was the love for himself he craved the adulation.... which remarkably as parallels with tan? Both wanted fan adulation but went about it in different ways... I lived in Wimbledon at the time and believe me he wasn't loved as much as people make out.
We won't agree on this Allan and you are entitled to your opinion and fears. IMHO, assuming the money is there, I would not be adverse to Sam having another go.
Let's face it, at the moment the feel good factor around the club is either zero, or even worse slipping into the negative.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:49 pm
Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:54 pm
piledriver64 wrote:I think the OP was around whether he would be welcomed back.
You only have to look at this thread to see that it would be divisive so it’s answered the question really !!
If there are other options we should take them in my view, but in the end money talks and I am more encouraged that Sam ( and not Langston !!) seems to have money now but he would never be my first choice after the depths he took us to.
I know we would never be where we are now even, without Sam coming in but we were weeks away from losing our club completely because the mistakes he made. I just don’t find going back to that regime that attractive because of that.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:32 pm
Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:04 pm
Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:24 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Yes, please bring back the guy who took one club into extinction, and almost the same with us.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:44 pm
Sat Dec 03, 2022 4:56 pm
Ninian27 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Yes, please bring back the guy who took one club into extinction, and almost the same with us.
Did he? Actual evidence or paper talk?
Simple question where were we before Sam? If you mate have been going as long as me , you will
Know since the early 70’s City have gone nearly gone under on many occasions.
I for one would love Sam and see the ground bouncing again and the club showing passion and players fighting for the club on the pitch.
The only owner to bring our youngsters properly through and actually make it.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:21 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:The opening post of this thread by Maccydee sums it up quite well for me.
Until Sam came along we were going only one way, down to the non league dungeons. Look at Wrexham, once there it's bloody hard to get out. Sam revitalised our club, brought us all together and, whilst it was a rollercoaster, there was never a dull moment. I loved those days.
I don't know the ins and outs of the financial melt down but it certainly was dark on black Friday when Kavanagh went and we were staring into a financial abyss.
Thank God that Tan came along and saved us, and furthermore pumped money in which helped Malky get us to the promised land.
With all that said, there is a major difference between the two guys. One has a love for our club and the other has a love for the Premier League and the trappings that go with it.
If I went through life without giving people 2nd chances I'd be a fool.
Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:24 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.
VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do
Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him
Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.
He will have my support 200%
Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:52 pm
davids wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:When VT took over we were excited because he had money to spend. Well, if what I'm hearing is true, Sam is quite possibly more well off than Tan.
VT has lost interest whereas Sam, even to this day, considers Cardiff his club in the same way our supporters do
Sam counts probably but 95% of clubs in the UK. It appears that we are the only club that matter to him
Someone who has money. Someone who has bluebird blood in their veins - this is what supporter's have been wishing for years.
He will have my support 200%
Has Sam won the lottery by any chance?
Perhaps he put that £500k he demanded at the last minute before signing the club over on red at the casino over the road from the ground.