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TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:08 pm

I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:15 pm

Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .



Lack of response to his departure is odd for anyone being sacked in football.. also got to bear in mind recent accusations against people at club regarding bullying Do not need more

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm

I have not heard this rumour before,if it is true I am not surprised.

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .



Lack of response to his departure is odd for anyone being sacked in football

Was put on here that he walked 1st of all hmmmmmmm

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:24 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .



Lack of response to his departure is odd for anyone being sacked in football

Was put on here that he walked 1st of all hmmmmmmm



Yes mixed reasons for departure put out on here but colwill was definitely cited as a problem with morison behaviour.

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .



Lack of response to his departure is odd for anyone being sacked in football

Was put on here that he walked 1st of all hmmmmmmm



Yes mixed reasons for departure put out on here but colwill was definitely cited as a problem with morison behaviour.

Heard his general attitude was a major problem with players .

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:28 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .



Lack of response to his departure is odd for anyone being sacked in football

Was put on here that he walked 1st of all hmmmmmmm



Yes mixed reasons for departure put out on here but colwill was definitely cited as a problem with morison behaviour.

Heard his general attitude was a major problem with players .



And city could not afford more accusations that's for sure especially towards a young player.... maybe the truth will come out as is said on here?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:40 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

It has been put on this forum in the past hasn't it ? .

I don't recall that but maybe, Wez...

I do recall a number of cited reasons, which included a 'bust up' with Tan himself (self-destruction) and 'fall-outs' with certain players, inc. (allegedly) Rubin Colwill

Lack of info from the club should surprise no one these days but it always seemed odd his (Morison's) departure was so abrupt, despite mixed results at that time

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:44 pm

;)
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Chris Morison has always come across as an arrogant person, i feel he has rubbed up quite a few players the wrong way and the board!!!

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:49 pm

Igovernor wrote:;)
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Chris Morison has always come across as an arrogant person, i feel he has rubbed up quite a few players the wrong way and the board!!!



Roger,

Exactly, Morison apparently became a bully to a few of the U21’s and was getting worse, then he and Tan started to fall out on opinions and Morison did start to ignore and be arrogant to Tan.
Morison did not want to be a yes man.

But I did not like his arrogance

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:43 pm

So he became a bully when he became the manager?,but he weren’t a bully when manger of under 23s

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:02 pm

caerblue wrote:So he became a bully when he became the manager?,but he weren’t a bully when manger of under 23s

Was he not...? :?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:09 pm

caerblue wrote:So he became a bully when he became the manager?,but he weren’t a bully when manger of under 23s

Pressure of job maybe .?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:21 pm

Sven wrote:
caerblue wrote:So he became a bully when he became the manager?,but he weren’t a bully when manger of under 23s

Was he not...? :?

No idea reason I put a ?,seems a bit strange to me,problem with colwill would surely been aware of

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:28 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:;)
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Chris Morison has always come across as an arrogant person, i feel he has rubbed up quite a few players the wrong way and the board!!!



Roger,

Exactly, Morison apparently became a bully to a few of the U21’s and was getting worse, then he and Tan started to fall out on opinions and Morison did start to ignore and be arrogant to Tan.
Morison did not want to be a yes man.

But I did not like his arrogance

Annis, I agree with what you write above, having initially backed Morison over his 'tough love' approach to the youngsters, who seemingly included Rubin Colwill and Isaak Davies...

What I have now gathered from a couple of non-Forum sources is that reports of a physical altercation are not wholly denied but are unfounded in actual substance

What appears to be nearer the truth (as stated reasonably accurately by yourself and others on the original threads) is that there was a bust up between Steve Morison and Vincent Tan about a lack of playing time for certain youngster, which we could reasonably assume (given Tan's 'play the youth' dictate) to include Rubin Colwill and/or others like Isaak Davies, Eli King, etc. etc...?

The discussion between owner and manager, again as we were initially told, was an explosive one and no (proverbial) punches were pulled to the extent that Morison effectively 'walked' at the same time as being 'sacked'

There was no indication of whether Tan was 'interfering' during games or that Morison had deliberately 'ignored' any calls during a game or whether Tan genuinely 'hassled' any manager at any point...

Whatever the truth, it seems the latter days/moments of Steve Morison's days were a bit of a mess and the question I'd like to know is whether this particular issue lay at the feet of Morison, Tan or both...?

Certainly where I look from, it is never a good thing to pi$$ off the boss, who will almost certainly hold the upper hand... ;)

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:31 am

Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?



We will never know, it's just a rumour, none of this is a fact, the only fact is that he has gone.

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:47 am

So he tried to wake Colwill up then.?
Whatever the reason we are in a worse position now.
Leicester stuck by Rodgers and are reaping the rewards.

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:53 am

Stickywicket

So did swansea stick by there latest
and sadly are reaping rewards

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:21 am

montyblue wrote:Stickywicket

So did swansea stick by there latest
and sadly are reaping rewards

Didn't Cooper get Forest promoted ? :occasion5: :occasion5: :occasion5: :occasion5: :occasion5:

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:33 pm

Igovernor wrote:;)
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Chris Morison has always come across as an arrogant person, i feel he has rubbed up quite a few players the wrong way and the board!!!


Who is Chris Morison?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:53 pm

BC-CB wrote:
Igovernor wrote:;)
Sven wrote:I've become very wary of making bold statement under the Tan dynasty, so I am going to put this out as a question after being given information by someone considered to be exceptionally trustworthy, so here goes...

Was Steve Morison dismissed by Vincent Tan after he was informed of a changing room one-way physical altercation with Rubin Colwill?

Surely, Something_Blue or one of our other nefarious ITK's would have outed this before now...? :?

Chris Morison has always come across as an arrogant person, i feel he has rubbed up quite a few players the wrong way and the board!!!


Who is Chris Morison?

;) :lol:

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:05 pm

Morison walked did he not ? - so there is no pay off.
The question you could ask is why do that and deny yourself a pay out ?

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:37 am

pipster wrote:Morison walked did he not ? - so there is no pay off.
The question you could ask is why do that and deny yourself a pay out ?



Sacked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62 ... ber%202021.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... r-25048386

Re: TALKING ABOUT HARD TRUTHS...

Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:23 am

montyblue wrote:Stickywicket

So did swansea stick by there latest
and sadly are reaping rewards


We never would have the patience to stick by a manager like they do.