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Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:56 pm

Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.

Re: Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:24 pm

Ninian27 wrote:Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.



So we are £245m in debt heared of inflation but! .... bang goes tan selling the club for £40m then :laughing6:

Re: Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:29 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.



So we are £245m in debt heared of inflation but! .... bang goes tan selling the club for £40m then :laughing6:



So he reduced the debt by £68 million in 2016, then by a further £79 million in 2018 which he created himself.
So we could have been in £256.5 million debt in total. He has owned us 12 years.

That is an accumulation of over £20 million per year. We have managed that with two visits to the Premier League.

Do you still think he is a good owner though as he has lied once again the debt is not all to him it’s now £50mill to others on interest.

What happened to debt free promised six years ago?

Re: Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 2:40 pm

Ninian27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.



So we are £245m in debt heared of inflation but! .... bang goes tan selling the club for £40m then :laughing6:



So he reduced the debt by £68 million in 2016, then by a further £79 million in 2018 which he created himself.
So we could have been in £256.5 million debt in total. He has owned us 12 years.

That is an accumulation of over £20 million per year. We have managed that with two visits to the Premier League.

Do you still think he is a good owner though as he has lied once again the debt is not all to him it’s now £50mill to others on interest.

What happened to debt free promised six years ago?



Good owner mmmmm matter of opinion on here.... you sound like someone else on here you make up debt ammount without the actual knowledge of what it is.... heard debt free within so many years and when he leaves ... as we know he hasnt left yet and generally when club is sold its sold debt free unless new owner takes on the debts ? So not worth discussing debt as it's a mute point unless of course you have an agenda bias against owner ? :o

Re: Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:57 pm

Ninian27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.



So we are £245m in debt heared of inflation but! .... bang goes tan selling the club for £40m then :laughing6:



So he reduced the debt by £68 million in 2016, then by a further £79 million in 2018 which he created himself.
So we could have been in £256.5 million debt in total. He has owned us 12 years.

That is an accumulation of over £20 million per year. We have managed that with two visits to the Premier League.

Do you still think he is a good owner though as he has lied once again the debt is not all to him it’s now £50mill to others on interest.

What happened to debt free promised six years ago?


Just to clarify , the debt to equity conversions were not £68m plus £79m but £79m in total between two coversions.

Also , the maximum gross debt over the years has been just over £150m , nowhere near £265m, nad has been considerably below that £150m since the debt conversions

Re: Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors

Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:07 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:Debts owing to Tan, Dalman's Firm & The Directors
The £245 million debt accumulation and he is still viewed by a few as a good owner, despite also receiving hundreds of millions through promotions and Wembley and so on.

Dalman and Co are owed between them over £50 million

An average of £20 million debt added per year during his 12 years here.



So we are £245m in debt heared of inflation but! .... bang goes tan selling the club for £40m then :laughing6:



So he reduced the debt by £68 million in 2016, then by a further £79 million in 2018 which he created himself.
So we could have been in £256.5 million debt in total. He has owned us 12 years.

That is an accumulation of over £20 million per year. We have managed that with two visits to the Premier League.

Do you still think he is a good owner though as he has lied once again the debt is not all to him it’s now £50mill to others on interest.

What happened to debt free promised six years ago?


Just to clarify , the debt to equity conversions were not £68m plus £79m but £79m in total between two coversions.

Also , the maximum gross debt over the years has been just over £150m , nowhere near £265m, nad has been considerably below that £150m since the debt conversions



Thanks for that..... Just out curiosity what do you think the value/worth of ccfc if it was for sale?