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' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:06 pm

Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:09 pm

Funny we never know who these buyers really are or do they even exist.
But some still want others back conveniently forgetting the past and how we nearly ceased to exist.
Last edited by JulesK on Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:10 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Yeah I know but this idiot Tan is playing hard ball.

One day everyone will see that Tan is our enemy within.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:13 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:..... There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


All they have to do now is pay the asking price, because there will be one.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:21 pm

Only people who would want to buy a football club at this moment in time are hedge funds and sports washing Arabs/Chinese. At which point it becomes about morals and I’m not sure I’d be comfortable supporting a team being run by such people

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:26 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Yeah I know but this idiot Tan is playing hard ball.

One day everyone will see that Tan is our enemy within.


I don't know how much VT think the club is worth but playing hard ball is just stupid

He just needs to put personal differences aside and let us become someone elses problem

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:27 pm

I also think its time for change. The club needs people that understand football running it. On and off the pitch under Tan its been one thing after another in terms of issues. Its not meant to be.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 1:30 pm

I'm Tan out now also. Had enough. People keep saying careful what u wish for but it CAN work in Cardiffs favour.
Tan does not care about us nor anyone else at the top. They have grown bored trying to get us to the premier league.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:11 pm

Who in their right mind would buy a football club ?? Huge recession on its way the middle east or some US financial rapists ?Stark choice.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:40 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Yeah I know but this idiot Tan is playing hard ball.

One day everyone will see that Tan is our enemy within.


I don't know how much VT think the club is worth but playing hard ball is just stupid

He just needs to put personal differences aside and let us become someone elses problem

Maybe he just wants a fair amount for the millions he’s put in? Just a thought.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:53 pm

Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:00 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Yeah I know but this idiot Tan is playing hard ball.

One day everyone will see that Tan is our enemy within.


I don't know how much VT think the club is worth but playing hard ball is just stupid

He just needs to put personal differences aside and let us become someone elses problem

Maybe he just wants a fair amount for the millions he’s put in? Just a thought.


Oh oh a sensible post !!!

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:02 pm

Bring it on. Time to start getting loud about getting rid of Tan. With him we're going nowhere!

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:14 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football



Would deliver? Nothing garaunteed in football ... and personally if its him all he will do is devide fans as did tan....

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:17 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Really ? More money than the bullionaire ?

If so why don't they buy us for the money he wants , it'll be change in their pockets

How much do they have to invest ? Obviously you're in the know

Share as much detail as possible so we can discuss

Also share how much the investors are worth .

We can then comment

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:22 pm

If he is going nowhere, he needs to change the structure of the club. The lack of a focal point is ludicrous. At least a DoF would be expected to speak to the fans occasionally and explain what the direction is.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:26 pm

There are 3 potential buyers Paul as you know.

But Dalman wants £30mill, plus another £20mill owed to others, so there goes the bullshit its all Tan debt, plus Tan wants £60mill.

Then an owner has to put his money in, way way to much over all.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:27 pm

NIBluebird wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Whilst I am grateful that VT has got us through some tough times the fact remains that we are not progressing as a club and more likely to be posting in division 1 next season than the premier.

And for those who look at Belgium football will also see that Kortrijk are bottom of the Belgium league.

Two clubs. Lack of investment. Losing value. Owners losing interest. Falling down the football pyramid.

The worst thing is that it doesn't have to be that way. There are people, people with more money than VT, who are interested in buying the club. And not just buying the club creating a structure to turn us into a Premier league club again


Really ? More money than the bullionaire ?

If so why don't they buy us for the money he wants , it'll be change in their pockets

How much do they have to invest ? Obviously you're in the know

Share as much detail as possible so we can discuss

Also share how much the investors are worth .

We can then comment




Mike , you 100% have NO idea

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:34 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football

Maybe. Who knows.

Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:37 pm

We will be worth less when we go down!

Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:46 pm

If Tan has his way we would be in league 2 with no money lack of interest from other potential owners and very poor players. This club is falling and dying under the hands of an owner who simply dont care enough to do anything about it. By the time Tan leaves us we would be another league 2 team that will never rise again.

Sad but true and the lack of interest from Tan shows it.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:There are 3 potential buyers Paul as you know.

But Dalman wants £30mill, plus another £20mill owed to others, so there goes the bullshit its all Tan debt, plus Tan wants £60mill.

Then an owner has to put his money in, way way to much over all.


So VT values the club at £60m and recognises £50m owed to others

So how about VT sell the club to MD in recognition of the debt and then SH buy the club off MD for £60m

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:59 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football


That's totally his perogative.

There is no market value. The value of the club is whatever Tan and the board accept.

Let's not get above ourselves here. We have no say in what the club is worth.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:12 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football


Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.

Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:28 pm

some honesty here, tan dont give a f**k for Cardiff city and only idiots can argue against

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:33 pm

maccydee wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football


Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.


Sam ran out of money and that is why the Stadium or Premier football was not delivered. That will not be the problem now if it is Sam.

Before Same the Premier and the Stadium were a million miles away. When he left both those dreams were well alive with the Riddlers taking the glory for the Stadium and Tan taking the glory for the Premier.

Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:34 pm

barnet blue wrote:some honesty here, tan dont give a f**k for Cardiff city and only idiots can argue against

100% agree I reckon. . Like any businessman, I’m just guessing he wants as much as possible for the club.

Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:35 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
barnet blue wrote:some honesty here, tan dont give a f**k for Cardiff city and only idiots can argue against

100% agree I reckon. . Like any businessman, I’m just guessing he wants as much as possible for the club.


He just does not to sell to his strongest bidder.

Re: Potential Buyers

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:39 pm

maccydee wrote:
Paul Keevil wrote:Maybe he wants more than the market value of a club at the wrong end of the championship

Maybe he dislikes the potential purchaser so much that he refuses to sell even though he knows that purchaser would deliver Premier league football


Two things on that post.

Dislike the potential purchaser? Is that Sam then or someone else?

Nobody can guarantee they would deliver premier league football especially Sam. While I am forever grateful for what Sam he couldn’t deliver a stadium or premier league football last time. In fact quite the opposite. He delivered selling players to pay wages and the Riddler having to save us. That’s how bad things were, Riddler had to save us. Granted there were extenuating circumstances but it has to be said.



Neil,

As usual very anti Sam.

Sam got two promotions, No relegations, took over us when we were rock bottom, shit ground, needed money spending on.
No one wanted a league 4 club with 4,000 crowds.
Squad worthless.



Left us Top of the Championship, found new stadium area, spent £60mill to get everything but the final stamp, stabbed in the back by Riddler and co.
Yes ran out of money, left a squad worth more than the debt, just searched the players from Ramsey,Ledly,Gunter, Loovens etc etc

Tan agreed to pay the £24mill loan debts and signed to it personally but once again never paid as usual then ran up court debts of beyond.
I could write a book :lol:

Sam had his faults, but he knew his football and loves Cardiff City beyond.





Tonight:
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Re: ' Potential Buyers '

Sun Oct 23, 2022 4:40 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
barnet blue wrote:some honesty here, tan dont give a f**k for Cardiff city and only idiots can argue against

100% agree I reckon. . Like any businessman, I’m just guessing he wants as much as possible for the club.


He just does not to sell to his strongest bidder.



Exactly.