OT - Drakeford forgetting he is ultimately responsible......

for Wales, and trying to blame the Tories.

Yes, I know he was taking aim at Westminster, but those in a crudely made car port with a greenhouse anti-room shouldn't throw stones.

RT Davies only needed to remind him that he look in the mirror and reflect on over 20 years of Labour misrule here in Wales.

Plus, he looked out of his depth like a schoolkid ranting at an aggressor before a 'fight' down the bottom field.

Make sure you view the video that is the first 'picture' - should have a play button on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63303690

for Wales, and trying to blame the Tories.

Yes, I know he was taking aim at Westminster, but those in a crudely made car port with a greenhouse anti-room shouldn't throw stones.

RT Davies only needed to remind him that he look in the mirror and reflect on over 20 years of Labour misrule here in Wales.

Plus, he looked out of his depth like a schoolkid ranting at an aggressor before a 'fight' down the bottom field.

Make sure you view the video that is the first 'picture' - should have a play button on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63303690

Drippy goes Dippy - disgrace of a man

Wales has gone downhill rapidly under Drakeford and Welsh Labour.

It’s about time he actually apologised to the whole country for his woeful handling of the economy, nhs, transport, social care, child poverty, education etc, etc, etc

He won’t because he’s a weak leader completely out of his depth

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Yes fully aware of barnet formular and how wales always lose out to Scotland.... but who runs nhs and Wales since devolution? And answer this rt Davies questioned the waiting list getting longer as its done every year but drakeford rants on about truss and this gvmnt what did that have to do with the question? And no cannot stand a man who let his constituents down by effectively closing local hospital services in favour of his love of carmarthen... money maybe an issue with labour WG but you use it best way you can just like you and I would if have a budget to work with...but that is not cause of incompetence in running nhs in Wales... wg is responsible for how it uses funds not Westminster.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Yes fully aware of barnet formular and how wales always lose out to Scotland.... but who runs nhs and Wales since devolution? And answer this rt Davies questioned the waiting list getting longer as its done every year but drakeford rants on about truss and this gvmnt what did that have to do with the question? And no cannot stand a man who let his constituents down by effectively closing local hospital services in favour of his love of carmarthen... money maybe an issue with labour WG but you use it best way you can just like you and I would if have a budget to work with...but that is not cause of incompetence in running nhs in Wales... wg is responsible for how it uses funds not Westminster.

But if the funds aren’t sufficient in the first place it doesn’t matter how those funds are used, they still aren’t sufficient!!

WG don’t have the power to raise funds elsewhere they are stuck with what they are given and allocated to the NHS Wales, I don’t understand why people can’t see this ?

If WG even just had the option of raising additional revenues/borrowing I would agree with you that it is within their give to sort it. But the current devolution agreement does not give the WG those powers, therefore they are managing NHS Wales with at least one hand tied behind their back.

To say the Westminster government bears no responsibility for the failures in NHS Wales is simply wrong.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Yes fully aware of barnet formular and how wales always lose out to Scotland.... but who runs nhs and Wales since devolution? And answer this rt Davies questioned the waiting list getting longer as its done every year but drakeford rants on about truss and this gvmnt what did that have to do with the question? And no cannot stand a man who let his constituents down by effectively closing local hospital services in favour of his love of carmarthen... money maybe an issue with labour WG but you use it best way you can just like you and I would if have a budget to work with...but that is not cause of incompetence in running nhs in Wales... wg is responsible for how it uses funds not Westminster.

Not missed at all and as for RT Davis he's a thicko that would suit a cabinet position in a Truss government.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Yes fully aware of barnet formular and how wales always lose out to Scotland.... but who runs nhs and Wales since devolution? And answer this rt Davies questioned the waiting list getting longer as its done every year but drakeford rants on about truss and this gvmnt what did that have to do with the question? And no cannot stand a man who let his constituents down by effectively closing local hospital services in favour of his love of carmarthen... money maybe an issue with labour WG but you use it best way you can just like you and I would if have a budget to work with...but that is not cause of incompetence in running nhs in Wales... wg is responsible for how it uses funds not Westminster.

Not missed at all and as for RT Davis he's a thicko that would suit a cabinet position in a Truss government.

Tbh not a decent politician amongst any of the parties in uk.

Got to be honest......that guy looks like an enraged absolute clown!

Feel free to disagree but I think he has lost it!

Got to be honest......that guy looks like an enraged absolute clown!

Feel free to disagree but I think he has lost it!

Could say that as his rant was totally out of line to the question asked? Yes conservatives made a
pigs ear of recent attempts at sorting out the mess we and most other countries have financially but not heared one bit what other parties will do to sort it out they're more interested in independence or election... did hear mention of windfall tax on companies but problem with that is same companies will simply stop investing in green energy to keep up their profits ! That will go down well with stop oil extinction rebel and the like.. no drakefords reaction was ott to say the least.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Intrest rates and consequently Mortgage rates are going up all over the World due to high inflation, this is just a labour argument that it was totally caused by the Kwasi budget, it might have brought it sooner, but they were always going up anyway, so don't believe it's just that 3 week budget error.

Have a look at the US, is that Kwasi/Truss fault?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-sta ... erest-rate

Got to be honest......that guy looks like an enraged absolute clown!

Feel free to disagree but I think he has lost it!

He wanted us locked down for much longer every time, how does he think that has affected the Welsh economy?

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Yes fully aware of barnet formular and how wales always lose out to Scotland.... but who runs nhs and Wales since devolution? And answer this rt Davies questioned the waiting list getting longer as its done every year but drakeford rants on about truss and this gvmnt what did that have to do with the question? And no cannot stand a man who let his constituents down by effectively closing local hospital services in favour of his love of carmarthen... money maybe an issue with labour WG but you use it best way you can just like you and I would if have a budget to work with...but that is not cause of incompetence in running nhs in Wales... wg is responsible for how it uses funds not Westminster.

But if the funds aren’t sufficient in the first place it doesn’t matter how those funds are used, they still aren’t sufficient!!

WG don’t have the power to raise funds elsewhere they are stuck with what they are given and allocated to the NHS Wales, I don’t understand why people can’t see this ?

If WG even just had the option of raising additional revenues/borrowing I would agree with you that it is within their give to sort it. But the current devolution agreement does not give the WG those powers, therefore they are managing NHS Wales with at least one hand tied behind their back.

To say the Westminster government bears no responsibility for the failures in NHS Wales is simply wrong.

The Welsh Government find stupid ways to waste it like free prescriptions for millionaires and closing access to Cardiff City centre making it so hard to get in people don't bother, locking down for longer damaging the economy, restricting travel, so tourism suffers, blocking access to Wales by not improving the motorway at the brynglas tunnels, and imposing pathetic speeds lowest in the World and all the cost of signs etc, giving kids coming out of care free money, so they don't need to look for a job, instead of trying to improve the most important issues like ambulance times and A&E times.

for Wales, and trying to blame the Tories.

Yes, I know he was taking aim at Westminster, but those in a crudely made car port with a greenhouse anti-room shouldn't throw stones.

RT Davies only needed to remind him that he look in the mirror and reflect on over 20 years of Labour misrule here in Wales.

Plus, he looked out of his depth like a schoolkid ranting at an aggressor before a 'fight' down the bottom field.

Make sure you view the video that is the first 'picture' - should have a play button on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-63303690

It's hysterical what an idiot!

Wales has more money per head than England and worse results in everything.

As tired as Conservative rule is in England, the same need for change exists in Wales too.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Health and education are devolved, Drakeford found £140m for a feasibility study on the M4 relief rd, then ignored the findings. Hand on heart do you believe expanding the number of AMs by 50% is a higher priority than the NHS. He’s a disaster and constantly deflecting to Westminster doesn’t cut it.

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Missed point ... drakeford blaming this gvmnt namely truss for the state of NHS in wales and having 25yrs in it can tell you WG interference is worse than tans in city team selection ... and what about the other 20yrs or so of his parties efforts to run nhs ? Waiting lists which started this debate have gone up year on year... sfa to do with Westminster funding of WG ...rather than blame others for their failings they should look at the waste of money ideas that as cost welsh people millions over the years.

Of course it’s to do with the funding received from Westminster !!

Don’t you understand the Barnett Formula ? The WG can only decide on how to cut the cake, not make it any bigger.

They have little room to raise additional monies nor do they have the ability to move money from one spending department to another.

You may not rate the WG or Drakeford but right now the whole of the UK is suffering due to the ineptitude of the Tories in Westminster.

Finally the electorate have worked that out and unless there is a huge turnaround the Tories not only face defeat at the next election, they face annihilation.

Health and education are devolved, Drakeford found £140m for a feasibility study on the M4 relief rd, then ignored the findings. Hand on heart do you believe expanding the number of AMs by 50% is a higher priority than the NHS. He’s a disaster and constantly deflecting to Westminster doesn’t cut it.

Tried this before doesn't work people believe drakeford is god when comes to decision making and it's all Westminsters fault we cannot run nhs or other devolved institutions... there is a very big list of money wasted or used inappropriately (without scrutiny) you musnt forget as well as wasting that £140m he thinks it's good idea to spend £800m on public services east of Cardiff to help m4 traffic despite 80% of m4 uses dont stop between Cardiff and Newport so not sure who is going to use the 30+ trains a day or a cycle lane hes building between the two citys ... maybe the 40 extra AMs and their auntarauge.?

I Wonder how many of you have a mortgage that has a fixed rate running out soon. What ever you think of Drakeford the black hole of the Truss debt created by herself would keep this little land going for years. Thicker than Dianie Abbott and wanted shot of by 2/3 of her own party today was not the day to pick holes in Drakefords policies.Truss has damaged the Welsh economy far more than anything Drakefords done the only difference we are only just paying for it.

Intrest rates and consequently Mortgage rates are going up all over the World due to high inflation, this is just a labour argument that it was totally caused by the Kwasi budget, it might have brought it sooner, but they were always going up anyway, so don't believe it's just that 3 week budget error.

Have a look at the US, is that Kwasi/Truss fault?

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-sta ... erest-rate

Spot on , the mini budget put more upward pressure on interest rates given what it did to the value of the pound ( and hence compounding inflationary pressures ) however inflation has been building for a while and it’s the Bank of England who’ve mismanaged that . Rates were at 10 bps only 13 months ago with significant underlying pressures , rates should have moved upward long before they did , their primary objective is a 2% target . It didn’t help the FED moved by 75bps a few days before the mini budget so a 50bps increase by the BOE a day later was never going to help stabilise the currency.

Monetary policy was also devolved to the Bank of England in the late 90s and whilst fiscal policy can influence inflation , interest rate management is nothing to do with political parties anymore .

On the OT, Drakeford is nothing but an embarrassment to this nation , I consider myself to be patriotic but the WAG and the gravy train members ( soon to grow in number ) are a stain on this country . But we get what we vote for and the majority always vote for the guy .

Wasting 30 million on changing 30 mph to 20 mph you will then push out more fumes killing more people than people dying from been hit by a car at a 10mph reduction
but dripford won' t have anything said about his running of health in wales for 25 years and the only home nation to refuse an investigation on the pandemic and how it was handled hear in wales

Drakeford makes Truss look like Einstein. Both are a disaster. WAG has never had a true majority, only a convenient mechanism of our voting system enabled it.

For what it’s worth, Starmer should go also. Another buffoon.

Since it was established what has the Welsh assembly achieved?

How has it made you life better and I mean factually...

Labour responsible for nhs Wales/yes
Labour asked for COVID money to be dished out /yes
Labour asked for ni cut /yes
Labour asked for tax cut /yes
Labour is responsible for the valleys being one of the poorest parts of the UK/yes

If non of the above is not true prove it

Since it was established what has the Welsh assembly achieved?

How has it made you life better and I mean factually...

Free calpol to every kid who doesn't need it? Even free prescriptions is badly thought out calpol one example why is that free only cost couple quid in chemist paracetamol same should be excluded from freebies

I can't think of anything....

I can't think of anything....

Like said free prescriptions is only thing worthwhile.. but no thought as to what should be free went into decision.. it's no wonder go surgeries its full of kids I use to see same kids every time I went to mine .. if you see the drugs dished out its ones that are easily and cheaply available at chemists that gp prescribe.

Sad little man with a very nasty temper
I dislike the Tories as much as anyone but this creep is a true threat to the people of Wales
I would also like to know how his government plan to 'track and trace' his sexual monster of a son?

Sad little man with a very nasty temper
I dislike the Tories as much as anyone but this creep is a true threat to the people of Wales
I would also like to know how his government plan to 'track and trace' his sexual monster of a son?

Hes very vindictive and wont stop at anything to keep in power.. only need to look at way he treated Sargent over some allegations what happened to innocent until proven guilty? He found him guilty immediately without looking into claims then had the gaul to obstruct any inquiry into the incidents by riding roughshod over the procedures of the sennedd and as done similar on several occasions since regarding WG procedures..... a dictator springs to mind.

Got to be honest......that guy looks like an enraged absolute clown!

Feel free to disagree but I think he has lost it!

Completely agree. will still be voted in though. A monkey living in a tree would get in in Wales, that's why they're so complacent.