“ THE ONLY MATCH IN THE UK TO STILL BE A BUBBLE ‘

South Wales police: Cardiff/Swansea is currently the only active bubble match in the UK ?


Much bigger derby games are not bubble games?


It’s been nearly 25 years of Cardiff / Swansea being a bubble match

I just wondered why we are the only derby match still bubbled?

Just Announced:

Following discussions between both clubs and Lancashire Police, Blackburn Rovers supporters attending the local derby with Burnley will not be required to purchase a coach ticket when they buy their match ticket.

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Annis do you think it's a good idea to remove bubble? We went couple seasons ago to the away game and made own way to ground and tbh if this wasn't a bubble there would have been problems just an observation from outside the bubble....

Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

The police presence was massive something fans on coaches didn't see...if bubble goes they would have to use half DWP force to keep peace.

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Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

Allan and David,

Manchester derbies, Millwall, Chelsea , Spurs Arsenal, West Ham , Newcastle, Sunderland , Midlands etc etc How do they cope???

Are you saying ours is the most violent or bigger hatred?


How do other police forces cope?

Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

Allan and David,

Manchester derbies, Millwall, Chelsea , Spurs Arsenal, West Ham , Newcastle, Sunderland , Midlands etc etc How do they cope???

Are you saying ours is the most violent or bigger hatred?


How do other police forces cope?

Think it's both.. with other areas there is lots of clubs fans intermingling all the time... unfortunately there is no such mixing between our fans ... it shouldn't be a bubble but looking from outside the bubble it looked only thing stopping their fans from causing trouble was the significant police presence .... guess swp not prepared or dont have the resources to commit to the game without bubble.

Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

Allan and David,

Manchester derbies, Millwall, Chelsea , Spurs Arsenal, West Ham , Newcastle, Sunderland , Midlands etc etc How do they cope???

Are you saying ours is the most violent or bigger hatred?


How do other police forces cope?

With the exception of West Ham v Millwall ( a game which has been rare over the last few years as the teams have been mostly in different divisions) I'd say that ours has the capacity to be the most violent and has the bigger hatred.

The cost of policing this fixture must be immense even whilst it's still a bubble - god knows how much it would be to police if there were no bubble.

By the way just to confirm that I am not in favour of the bubble trips by any stretch of the imagination especially the trip to Swansea. Fans having to travel from Port Talbot and even further west to Cardiff just to get a coach back again, the two hour journey for a forty mile trip, herded into the away end - I absolutely hate it.

But I honestly think that there is still a large enough minority of idiots from both sides which makes the bubble the only way to go at the moment unfortunately.

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100% there would be murder if it wasn't a bubble and i can see why it still is , not sure I would trust myself tbh walking around with some of those gypo tossers .

This fixture is long dead nowadays,boring as heck.

if the match was purely restricted to season ticket holders I reckon it would be fine but every nutter from both sides seems to get a ticket or are around.

I have a few Jack friends and its crazy that i can go along with the other 6K to watch the Ospreys and Blues and have a beer sitting next to my mates but when we watch the football we are treated like a marauding army with loads of civil liberty restrictions. But, the idiots on both sides make it that way.

There would be carnage and we all know it. Even an 11:00 KO on a Sunday.

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FOR AS LONG AS WERE ALIVE IT WILL ALWAYS BE A BUBBLE -

I’ve posted on this subject before there’ is no way it will never be a bubble do you honestly think Cardiff fans would be safe making there own way by car parking up around the Liberty is a nightmare you have all seen what’it’s like when we are bussed in the jacks are waiting across the road when we get there and leave I know the area very well even lads coming on the train would get attacked at every corner it’s a fair walk to from the station to the Liberty and which way would the police escort you to the Liberty be careful what you wish for it’s safer to stay in the bubble the jacks don’t care who they will hit

Annis,

Do you think that if it were no longer a bubble that both sets of fans could be trusted to not start any trouble?

I'm not so sure myself.

Look at the idiots who wrecked the toilets at Bristol last season. Unfortunately we still have a number of knobheads who think they're hard and no doubt so do the Jacks.

Allan and David,

Manchester derbies, Millwall, Chelsea , Spurs Arsenal, West Ham , Newcastle, Sunderland , Midlands etc etc How do they cope???

Are you saying ours is the most violent or bigger hatred?


How do other police forces cope?

With the exception of West Ham v Millwall ( a game which has been rare over the last few years as the teams have been mostly in different divisions) I'd say that ours has the capacity to be the most violent and has the bigger hatred.

The cost of policing this fixture must be immense even whilst it's still a bubble - god knows how much it would be to police if there were no bubble.

By the way just to confirm that I am not in favour of the bubble trips by any stretch of the imagination especially the trip to Swansea. Fans having to travel from Port Talbot and even further west to Cardiff just to get a coach back again, the two hour journey for a forty mile trip, herded into the away end - I absolutely hate it.

But I honestly think that there is still a large enough minority of idiots from both sides which makes the bubble the only way to go at the moment unfortunately.

If you like me live other side Swansea you can get your ticket from cub and make own way to ground we did thst 2seasons ago... it's not advertised but you can do that rather than like say go by coach.

I’ve posted on this subject before there’ is no way it will never be a bubble do you honestly think Cardiff fans would be safe making there own way by car parking up around the Liberty is a nightmare you have all seen what’it’s like when we are bussed in the jacks are waiting across the road when we get there and leave I know the area very well even lads coming on the train would get attacked at every corner it’s a fair walk to from the station to the Liberty and which way would the police escort you to the Liberty be careful what you wish for it’s safer to stay in the bubble the jacks don’t care who they will hit

Lol you think a big mob of city walking from the station is going to be picked off by jacks?. I doubt it. In any case there would be a big police escort

It’s high time the bubble was scrapped, I agree with Annis

Cardiff vs Swansea has no more chance of trouble than Birmingham/Villa, West/Brom/Wolves, Burnley/Blackburn or carry on naming them, you can go on all day.

The only reason we have bubble is because it’s easy for SWP and they are lazy which is why we get our games moved when there’s a Rugby International they can’t cope with 2 sporting events in the City at the same time, it’s pathetic really, plus they can claim costs.

If it wasn’t a bubble bubble what do people think is going to happen, it will be 20,000 normal people going to the game and then about 300 on each side easily policed giving it the big one like Bristol City.

It’s not like Swansea are suddenly going to turn up in Canton 200 handed, they haven’t had the bollocks to do it before so why now? I doubt they even have 200 lads these days and neither do we. Most people have grown up and moved on. For sure there is potential for things to get out of control but most people are sensible.

Imagine going to prison for fighting at the Football in 2022, it’s not even a proper bubble anyway, the Jacks came in this season about 6 coaches at a time with a riot van at the front, banging on the windows driving down sloper road at about 5 miles an hour, as you can imagine they all piled out of the back of the coach fire exit as soon as they had a chance did they f**k they were quite happy banging on the windows lol

It’s high time the bubble was scrapped, I agree with Annis

Cardiff vs Swansea has no more chance of trouble than Birmingham/Villa, West/Brom/Wolves, Burnley/Blackburn or carry on naming them, you can go on all day.

The only reason we have bubble is because it’s easy for SWP and they are lazy which is why we get our games moved when there’s a Rugby International they can’t cope with 2 sporting events in the City at the same time, it’s pathetic really, plus they can claim costs.

If it wasn’t a bubble bubble what do people think is going to happen, it will be 20,000 normal people going to the game and then about 300 on each side easily policed giving it the big one like Bristol City.

It’s not like Swansea are suddenly going to turn up in Canton 200 handed, they haven’t had the bollocks to do it before so why now? I doubt they even have 200 lads these days and neither do we. Most people have grown up and moved on. For sure there is potential for things to get out of control but most people are sensible.

Imagine going to prison for fighting at the Football in 2022, it’s not even a proper bubble anyway, the Jacks came in this season about 6 coaches at a time with a riot van at the front, banging on the windows driving down sloper road at about 5 miles an hour, as you can imagine they all piled out of the back of the coach fire exit as soon as they had a chance did they f**k they were quite happy banging on the windows lol

Your probably right but what would the consequences be if it got out of hand? Yes get banning orders get prison time maybe but what about the clubs previous
reputation one that we have spent 30yrs or so trying to forget? It's not only about swans v city it would then impact on our away games elsewhere ... we underestimate the hostility between fans at our peril

It’s high time the bubble was scrapped, I agree with Annis

Cardiff vs Swansea has no more chance of trouble than Birmingham/Villa, West/Brom/Wolves, Burnley/Blackburn or carry on naming them, you can go on all day.

The only reason we have bubble is because it’s easy for SWP and they are lazy which is why we get our games moved when there’s a Rugby International they can’t cope with 2 sporting events in the City at the same time, it’s pathetic really, plus they can claim costs.

If it wasn’t a bubble bubble what do people think is going to happen, it will be 20,000 normal people going to the game and then about 300 on each side easily policed giving it the big one like Bristol City.

It’s not like Swansea are suddenly going to turn up in Canton 200 handed, they haven’t had the bollocks to do it before so why now? I doubt they even have 200 lads these days and neither do we. Most people have grown up and moved on. For sure there is potential for things to get out of control but most people are sensible.

Imagine going to prison for fighting at the Football in 2022, it’s not even a proper bubble anyway, the Jacks came in this season about 6 coaches at a time with a riot van at the front, banging on the windows driving down sloper road at about 5 miles an hour, as you can imagine they all piled out of the back of the coach fire exit as soon as they had a chance did they f**k they were quite happy banging on the windows lol

Your probably right but what would the consequences be if it got out of hand? Yes get banning orders get prison time maybe but what about the clubs previous
reputation one that we have spent 30yrs or so trying to forget? It's not only about swans v city it would then impact on our away games elsewhere ... we underestimate the hostility between fans at our peril

I genuinely don’t think it would mate, I’m not claiming to be a fan expert but iv been going to Football long enough and used to be involved in the violent side of it to see it as it is.

A chap above said when we go there there’s 300 of them there waiting for us, this is true, but they are waiting for us knowing full we’ll that the coaches are coming in under a police escort and nobody is getting off. How many of those 300 so called hard Jacks would be there ‘waiting’ if we were coming in unescorted, probably about 20 if your lucky. Even the most ardent Jack isn’t a bully and most fans would be fine

I mean if we were playing Swansea at home and family of Jacks were walking up Sloper road to the away end I would be f*cking ashamed if anyone gave them any hassle and I’d like to think it would be the same vice versa.

It wouldn’t be perfect, no game is and for sure there would probably be some trouble and the odd arrest but not any different to other games of the nature, people just need to use their heads and be sensible. The problem is, we have had this now since 1996 so nobody knows any different (I went on the first ever bubble).

It’s high time the bubble was scrapped, I agree with Annis

Cardiff vs Swansea has no more chance of trouble than Birmingham/Villa, West/Brom/Wolves, Burnley/Blackburn or carry on naming them, you can go on all day.

The only reason we have bubble is because it’s easy for SWP and they are lazy which is why we get our games moved when there’s a Rugby International they can’t cope with 2 sporting events in the City at the same time, it’s pathetic really, plus they can claim costs.

If it wasn’t a bubble bubble what do people think is going to happen, it will be 20,000 normal people going to the game and then about 300 on each side easily policed giving it the big one like Bristol City.

It’s not like Swansea are suddenly going to turn up in Canton 200 handed, they haven’t had the bollocks to do it before so why now? I doubt they even have 200 lads these days and neither do we. Most people have grown up and moved on. For sure there is potential for things to get out of control but most people are sensible.

Imagine going to prison for fighting at the Football in 2022, it’s not even a proper bubble anyway, the Jacks came in this season about 6 coaches at a time with a riot van at the front, banging on the windows driving down sloper road at about 5 miles an hour, as you can imagine they all piled out of the back of the coach fire exit as soon as they had a chance did they f**k they were quite happy banging on the windows lol

Your probably right but what would the consequences be if it got out of hand? Yes get banning orders get prison time maybe but what about the clubs previous
reputation one that we have spent 30yrs or so trying to forget? It's not only about swans v city it would then impact on our away games elsewhere ... we underestimate the hostility between fans at our peril

I genuinely don’t think it would mate, I’m not claiming to be a fan expert but iv been going to Football long enough and used to be involved in the violent side of it to see it as it is.

A chap above said when we go there there’s 300 of them there waiting for us, this is true, but they are waiting for us knowing full we’ll that the coaches are coming in under a police escort and nobody is getting off. How many of those 300 so called hard Jacks would be there ‘waiting’ if we were coming in unescorted, probably about 20 if your lucky. Even the most ardent Jack isn’t a bully and most fans would be fine

I mean if we were playing Swansea at home and family of Jacks were walking up Sloper road to the away end I would be f*cking ashamed if anyone gave them any hassle and I’d like to think it would be the same vice versa.

It wouldn’t be perfect, no game is and for sure there would probably be some trouble and the odd arrest but not any different to other games of the nature, people just need to use their heads and be sensible. The problem is, we have had this now since 1996 so nobody knows any different (I went on the first ever bubble).

I dont think it should be a bubble but swp like the met are anti football organisations and rather not police games if they had choice..... I went to swans away and was outside the bubble and despite very large police presence their fans tried to get into the away enclosure ok could just been bravado but wont take much for swp to pile in and escalate the problem....guess only way to find out is to not have bubble and see what happens ...
The main problem not hav bubble is how fo you police fans arriving at Swansea station at different times or by car to different locations as no proper parking near ground.

I’m from port talbot if I went by car I’d be recognised straight way there’s loads of jacks who work in our steelworks and most of them know me and the port talbot jacks know who I am plus all the other Neath and port.talbot bluebirds would be recognised straightway