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Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:12 pm

Two Simple Questions :




(1) Why is Hudson being given the go ahead to get another ‘coach' ….if he may only be there for just two more games ??


This can only mean one thing ….that he is staying on as manager …… for at least a while !


Why does he need a coach in the first place ….at this point in time ?

He is there and so is Ramasut . We are not buying or selling players or dealing with contracts or agents …. right now.





(2) Clearly Tan is highly involved with all team matters? . Look - he has every right to do that IF he so chooses as he owns us outright…… but the questions that arise are :


(a) Is he qualified at all to do that ?


(b) would any decent manager accept someone like Tan ….. with his zero footballing background and being thousands of miles away …. to interfere with team selection , tactics and even sending messages during a game ??


For me this means we will not attract a decent manager?
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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:16 pm

Tan comes from a Far Eastern culture where the employee does not ask questions and only gives opinions ‘if asked’ .


An employee shows total obedience and subservience.

My View:
This method - I must say - can workwonders many times especially if the boss is very capable and wise …… but this is not “our way”. That is why our Club has NO SOUL ….. we are ruled by fear .
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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:23 pm

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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:24 pm

Is the coach for academy though which the club can get not necessarily for 1st team? Sounds like everything is going through tan which is probably not best thing but is he preferable to Dalmans input? As for good manager coming here until tan actually goes out and gets one and offers the job we never know if good candidate will come.... yes stories of xyz turning us down but mostly rumours with others having own reasons not to come ..... tan may be a reason but people taken on job with worse owners than tan.... personally we are good club better than fair few in championship to be manager of but tan as weired ideas of what's needed and Hudson is not what we need.

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:43 pm

I couldn’t agree with you more Annis. Very dispiriting. A manager should be in total control of football matters. We don’t need yet another coach. We need a striker to work alongside Robertson. And we need a DOF with a long term plan. If Hudson is to have longer, then bloody well say so - again clarity is needed. I have supported the City since 66 and I will always do so. In the past we have played in lower divisions but in that time the players played with passion and heart and the fans always responded. We deserve clarity and honesty at the very least. :bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:45 pm

Seems odd to me,if a coach comes in selected by Hudson will he be sacked the same time he is eventually let go?
If we lose the next two is that him gone regardless?
Is Tan just a master of puppets now or has he always been this?

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Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:45 pm

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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:45 pm

Tan needs to stay out of it and let the coach do his job.

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Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:46 pm

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Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:49 pm

I see the point here and its a thought but this also could be a short term coaching help or something we will require anyway regardless of new manager. We could certainly do with an attack minded coach.

What we really need is a Director of Football.

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:00 pm

It looks like he's got the job till the World Cup, and is being allowed to get some help during that period. I would imagine the coach will only initially get a short term contract till the World cup or the end of the season.

This will give Tan a chance to see how it goes and plan the next move, which could be stick or twist with Hudson, whatever happens he will do anything to make sure we don't go down.

If we are looking safe by the time the World Cup starts I would guess that Hudson will then get to the end of the season.

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Tan comes from a Far Eastern culture where the employee does not ask questions and only gives opinions ‘if asked’ .


An employee shows total obedience and subservience.

My View:
This method - I must say - can workwonders many times especially if the boss is very capable and wise …… but this is not “our way”. That is why our Club has NO SOUL ….. we are ruled by fear .



Tan told us a long time ago that we are "Customers" and not "Fans of the club".

Trouble is in Mr Tan's eyes that the customers are neither always right (as in "the customer is always right") or come first.

:bluescarf: :bluebird:

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Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:15 pm

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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:20 pm

The u21 definitely need a coach after watching todays game it was absolutely dreadful, also a new goalkeeper coach everytime he kicked the ball out it went into touch, although in fairness he did produce a couple of good saves

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:29 pm

rontom wrote:The u21 definitely need a coach after watching todays game it was absolutely dreadful, also a new goalkeeper coach everytime he kicked the ball out it went into touch, although in fairness he did produce a couple of good saves



The U21’s were finally improving, but the last 12 months under Purse they have gone backwards

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:01 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Two Simple Questions :




(1) Why is Hudson being given the go ahead to get another ‘coach' ….if he may only be there for just two more games ??


This can only mean one thing ….that he is staying on as manager …… for at least a while !


Why does he need a coach in the first place ….at this point in time ?

He is there and so is Ramasut . We are not buying or selling players or dealing with contracts or agents …. right now.





(2) Clearly Tan is highly involved with all team matters? . Look - he has every right to do that IF he so chooses as he owns us outright…… but the questions that arise are :


(a) Is he qualified at all to do that ?


(b) would any decent manager accept someone like Tan ….. with his zero footballing background and being thousands of miles away …. to interfere with team selection , tactics and even sending messages during a game ??


For me this means we will not attract a decent manager?

I asked the question about his 'new coach' comment in the thread the other day...

It certainly looks like there is a 'plan' in place to give him the best opportunity to stake his claim

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:47 pm

I said back in June / July I was worried for our great Club, Now I am more than worried

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:48 pm

Hudson said he asked for more hands on coaching so, good that Tan is backing him, clearly he is willing to give Hudson as much help as possible.
Tan clearly is involved on our club, unlike some people who suggest he doesn’t care..
He is obviously listening to Hudson, showing interest in the way he is thinking.
I don’t think he is making the team selection.. but hey, if that’s one what some want to believe then that’s their issue
I think Mark Hudson is a stronger character than some give him credit for.

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:04 pm

Was always Hudson’s job we haven’t looked anywhere else

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Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:16 pm

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Bebbs or Edwards possibly

Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:36 pm

Ive heard Dave Bebbs or Mike Edwards are good coaches........

Re: Bebbs or Edwards possibly

Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:48 pm

pipster wrote:Ive heard Dave Bebbs or Mike Edwards are good coaches........

Or what about the two Dutch guys; Barry van Hire and Hertz van Rental... ;) :laughing6:

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:04 pm

Q1 - You seemed to have answered that one ....

Q2 - Has Tan got his coaching badges ????

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Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:18 am

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Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:19 am

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Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:10 am

Why are so many hoping Hudson loses games? Surely if he wins games and is kept on that can't be a bad thing.
On the chance of getting a board warning, can I just say that IMO no *fan* on here should wish their club loses.

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:56 am

If Tan let’s Hudson stay on as manager with Joe Ledley in his set up then this sums VT to a tee and a lot of fans will walk away this season. Mark my words we don’t bring in and experience manager we will be relegated this season . Lack of experience in management at this club will cost us dearly . VT f**k off and sell up ! Enough is enough

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:57 am

JulesK wrote:Why are so many hoping Hudson loses games? Surely if he wins games and is kept on that can't be a bad thing.
On the chance of getting a board warning, can I just say that IMO no *fan* on here should wish their club loses.

well said.. how on earth could any true Cardiff fan wish their team to lose..

and no why would you get a board warning for stating the obvious .

Re: Two Simple Questions : (1) Why is Hudson

Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:07 am

Bonner wrote:
JulesK wrote:Why are so many hoping Hudson loses games? Surely if he wins games and is kept on that can't be a bad thing.
On the chance of getting a board warning, can I just say that IMO no *fan* on here should wish their club loses.

well said.. how on earth could any true Cardiff fan wish their team to lose..

and no why would you get a board warning for stating the obvious .


Who had a board warning for that???

No one wants us to lose except the opposition and the Jacks