" I was told time and time again " :

Apparently Steve Morison disliked Rubin Colwill, he was going NO where under him, in fact backwards, he was fit, i was also told time and time again Colwill was apparently belittled by Morison.
This was told to Tan who is a big fan of Rubin.


Some would call it bullying.


Just one of the many reasons for Tan / Morison fall outs.

I know Tanner and O'Dowda have stuck up for Morison, but they were never treated like this.


I hope Colwill is now given a chance which will then get him back playing for Wales again, he needs games under his belt to make the World Cup.

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When Morison matures, he could be a good manager.
His man management his dodgy. Control freak.obky his players, not prepared to work with others..

Never sorted forwards out before the season started (like everyone could see, even my young kids!) and it has cost him 10 points and lost him his job... As he said, no excuses..

I still think Colwill needs to work on his game and get fitter and he is always puffed out and nowhere near the standard needed at the moment. Potential there.

Colwill obviously has massive potential but I have never seen him put it all together in a performance which made him undroppable for the next game. As a youngster that is normal but SM wasn't wrong to not give regular starts yet.

Whether Tan is right or not about Colwill or anything he should not be getting involved in footballer matters whoever the manager is. We will never get a decent manager if this is happening.

If morrison did belittle colwill then obviously it isn't very good but I hope he didn't lose his job because colwill wasn't happy with his game time. He hasn't proved anything to justify being a definite starter in the team

I think in fairness to Rubin if he knew he wasnt going to be played then he would have been demoralised and this would have effected his fitness.

Hopefully, with better man management, we will have someone who will give him the confidence that he is wanted and will be a beneficiary of this change both for CCFC and Wales.

Apparently Steve Morison disliked Rubin Colwill, he was going NO where under him, in fact backwards, he was fit, i was also told time and time again Colwill was apparently belittled by Morison.
This was told to Tan who is a big fan of Rubin.


Some would call it bullying.


Just one of the many reasons for Tan / Morison fall outs.

I know Tanner and O'Dowda have stuck up for Morison, but they were never treated like this.


I hope Colwill is now given a chance which will then get him back playing for Wales again, he needs games under his belt to make the World Cup.

Maybe the 'big fan of Rubin' has a rather inflated opinion of the player's ability. Pretty much everyone around me in the Ninian Stand thinks he's over-hyped, and I tend to agree with them..

I honestly think morison is right and cowill isn't ready quite yet.

I honestly think morison is right and cowill isn't ready quite yet.

I think in fairness to Rubin if he knew he wasnt going to be played then he would have been demoralised and this would have effected his fitness.

Hopefully, with better man management, we will have someone who will give him the confidence that he is wanted and will be a beneficiary of this change both for CCFC and Wales.

I normally agree with most of your posts Paul but not on this one.

He is not a boy anymore, he is a man in a Man's game. If you are not picked you try harder, not get demoralised and wilt into the sunset.

In my opinion he still has a lot to prove, he has potential......but he needs to turn it into quality performance after quality performance. Maybe then we will start talking about a "potential" superstar.

I think in fairness to Rubin if he knew he wasnt going to be played then he would have been demoralised and this would have effected his fitness.

Hopefully, with better man management, we will have someone who will give him the confidence that he is wanted and will be a beneficiary of this change both for CCFC and Wales.

I normally agree with most of your posts Paul but not on this one.

He is not a boy anymore, he is a man in a Man's game. If you are not picked you try harder, not get demoralised and wilt into the sunset.

In my opinion he still has a lot to prove, he has potential......but he needs to turn it into quality performance after quality performance. Maybe then we will start talking about a "potential" superstar.

I do agree with you in that respect. Hopefully a change of scenery will see some improvement.

As you say its a mans game and he does need to prove himself!

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Colwill is an OK player, that's it - just OK, nothing special at this point.

When he got his first call-up to the Wales squad it put unnecessary hype around him. Then when he had the few good moments, such as his consolation goal at Liverpool last season, there was even more pressure on him.

But, in truth, he has only ever shown glimpses of quality. There are players his age in this league who are far better than him at this stage.

I haven't seen enough from him to suggest he's good enough to start games in the Championship. I'm a little surprised he's still in the Wales squad.


Having said all that, I have also heard that Morison would frequently knock his confidence. He's made public comments about him that were very harsh to say about a young player.

The things I've heard that he said to Colwill away from the press are even worse.

One of those things is Morison constantly telling Rubin Colwill that his brother Joel is a much better player than him and Rubin will never be successful at Cardiff City.

Whatever you think of Colwill's ability, that is totally out of order by Morison.

Morison has definitely held back Rubin Colwill's development simply because he didn't like him.

Colwill is an OK player, that's it - just OK, nothing special at this point.

When he got his first call-up to the Wales squad it put unnecessary hype around him. Then when he had the few good moments, such as his consolation goal at Liverpool last season, there was even more pressure on him.

But, in truth, he has only ever shown glimpses of quality. There are players his age in this league who are far better than him at this stage.

I haven't seen enough from him to suggest he's good enough to start games in the Championship. I'm a little surprised he's still in the Wales squad.


Having said all that, I have also heard that Morison would frequently knock his confidence. He's made public comments about him that were very harsh to say about a young player.

The things I've heard that he said to Colwill away from the press are even worse.

One of those things is Morison constantly telling Rubin Colwill that his brother Joel is a much better player than him and Rubin will never be successful at Cardiff City.

Whatever you think of Colwill's ability, that is totally out of order by Morison.

Morison has definitely held back Rubin Colwill's development simply because he didn't like him.

Time will tell, will Hudson build him up and play him next game, saying along the lines of prove him wrong?

Is he injured ? He's not one of the 12 subs for Wales tonight.Mark Harris and Johnny Williams made the bench.Perhaps Page doesn't rate him either.

Is he injured ? He's not one of the 12 subs for Wales tonight.Mark Harris and Johnny Williams made the bench.Perhaps Page doesn't rate him either.

Or perhaps not enough game time under him and rusty now

Is he injured ? He's not one of the 12 subs for Wales tonight.Mark Harris and Johnny Williams made the bench.Perhaps Page doesn't rate him either.

Or perhaps not enough game time under him and rusty now

He’s rusty as he didn’t have a pre season at all.
Bit like joe ralls has been off it too.
I trusted morro’s judgement and agree with many others on here he’s been over hyped since breaking through and has a lot still to do.

What's this obsession with Colwill?

Anyone would think we have another Duncan Edwards in our midst.

Yes, he has talent, but that is a prerequisite for young players at this level. It's down to desire, application, commitment and mental strength as much as ability.

Hopefully Colwill will kick on and have a great career but for every Aaton Ramsey there are a hundred Lee Jarmans.

If true (and there certainly seems to be some grain of truth in it given Morisons interviews) then he will find it hard to get back into management - unless it's Millwal or non league.

Work place bullying, or even just poor man management - is not accepted in any workplace anymore. It's Morisons job to show leadership which means getting players wanting to play for you, to instill them a level of confidence that they didnt think they had.

I think Warnock had this - eg where you can give a b0ll0cking but then tell the player how much better they can be - the end result is players will want to run through brick walls. It was the last bit - the Leadership bit ,that is the decider between bully and inspiration - and Morison doesnt have it.

What's this obsession with Colwill?

Anyone would think we have another Duncan Edwards in our midst.

Yes, he has talent, but that is a prerequisite for young players at this level. It's down to desire, application, commitment and mental strength as much as ability.

Hopefully Colwill will kick on and have a great career but for every Aaton Ramsey there are a hundred Lee Jarmans.

I don't think there is any 'obsession'; just a will from the majority of Bluebirds for him to (a) be given a chance, and (b) judged on what he does or doesn't do, rather than the perceptions of 'terrace or armchair experts'

The boy has hardly had a chance but has shown glimpses of the player we hope he can be; the Liverpool goal being one example (albeit demeaned as a 'consolation' by one detractor above)

I hope he plays a couple of the next three games, of fit. It's the only way we'll find out if Steve Morison was right or wrong

Unfortunately they could both fade to fck all in morisons case wouldn't be a surprise as rarely does a former city manager go on to bigger things.in colwills case it would be a big shame as he the makings of an excellent player

What's this obsession with Colwill?

Anyone would think we have another Duncan Edwards in our midst.

Yes, he has talent, but that is a prerequisite for young players at this level. It's down to desire, application, commitment and mental strength as much as ability.

Hopefully Colwill will kick on and have a great career but for every Aaton Ramsey there are a hundred Lee Jarmans.

I don't think there is any 'obsession'; just a will from the majority of Bluebirds for him to (a) be given a chance, and (b) judged on what he does or doesn't do, rather than the perceptions of 'terrace or armchair experts'

The boy has hardly had a chance but has shown glimpses of the player we hope he can be; the Liverpool goal being one example (albeit demeaned as a 'consolation' by one detractor above)

I hope he plays a couple of the next three games, of fit. It's the only way we'll find out if Steve Morison was right or wrong

Being 3-0 down and scoring a goal is the definition of a consolation goal… especially when that goal is against Liverpool and anfield. Factually it was a consolation goal which you can not contest and I don’t believe the original poster meant this as to undervalue the goal but merely describing the context.

But I’m sorry Sven the fact is it WAS a consolation goal and find it hard that you think otherwise?

What's this obsession with Colwill?

Anyone would think we have another Duncan Edwards in our midst.

Yes, he has talent, but that is a prerequisite for young players at this level. It's down to desire, application, commitment and mental strength as much as ability.

Hopefully Colwill will kick on and have a great career but for every Aaton Ramsey there are a hundred Lee Jarmans.

I don't think there is any 'obsession'; just a will from the majority of Bluebirds for him to (a) be given a chance, and (b) judged on what he does or doesn't do, rather than the perceptions of 'terrace or armchair experts'

The boy has hardly had a chance but has shown glimpses of the player we hope he can be; the Liverpool goal being one example (albeit demeaned as a 'consolation' by one detractor above)

I hope he plays a couple of the next three games, of fit. It's the only way we'll find out if Steve Morison was right or wrong

Chris, you know I have great respect for you. And I understand it was me you were referring to.

But it was a consolation goal. We were 3-0 down at the time.

Woha hold on now, even if Colwill is just a good player ( personally I think given the chance he will shine ) there is no need to be belittled in front of senior players or constantly told you're not good enough, nobody should put up with that crap as we know morison has said stuff about youngsters instead of looking in the mirror sometimes.
As for the ' it's a man's game ' comments, well we live in different times and if morison doesn't get that he will be out of management for a long time.

how do you know this is true???
the club could be battering steve morison so fans dont attack the board and owner for sacking steve.

The lad is a talent - needs to work on a few areas of his game , like most lads of his age .

Every time I see Colwill he looks the best player at the club he scored a fab freekick against QPR a great goal against Liverpool consolation or not it was a good finish and he scored 2 against forest last season.

He scored goals sorry but who else do we have that scores goals ???

I am fed up of hearing what players have said on social media they have too as they have not got the results and the managers always lose their jobs and players come out on social media blah blah

There was unrest in the dressing room I heard from a player himself I am not going to name him as that would be unfair certain players were very unhappy with Morrison as he ignored some players hardly spoke to them he was arrogant too and to be honest what I seen of him I have no reason to not believe that.

There was unrest in the dressing room I heard from a player himself I am not going to name him as that would be unfair certain players were very unhappy with Morrison as he ignored some players hardly spoke to them he was arrogant too and to be honest what I seen of him I have no reason to not believe that.

To me that sounds more believable and sensible than alot of rumours posted.

There was unrest in the dressing room I heard from a player himself I am not going to name him as that would be unfair certain players were very unhappy with Morrison as he ignored some players hardly spoke to them he was arrogant too and to be honest what I seen of him I have no reason to not believe that.

To me that sounds more believable and sensible than alot of rumours posted.

Valley ram bill is spot on heard from a very close source to the squad that Morison had a terrible man management style