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" Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 7:57 pm

I've always said that.

But it has to be said I am relatively pleased with these first six games.

It is often said that you can't really tell how the season will go until we are twelve games in. We're halfway towards that amount of games played.

The quality of our football is very high right now. We are causing teams problems and have had periods of control in all these games so far. We didn't really see that with our previous style.

Obviously we're not turning our quality into goals and it's glaringly obvious to everyone, including Steve Morison behind the scenes I'm sure, that we need one if not two strikers before next week's deadline.

The players we have brought in have started to show their quality. I've especially been impressed with O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Romeo, Kipre and the sadly now injured Collins. Would also say that Nkounkou made a promising debut.

Seen a few comments from people who say they're disappointed with Sawyers. I totally disagree with that. You can't underestimate how important his technical quality will be for us, a lot of it goes unnoticed. Also has to be remembered he had a later start to pre-season than most of the others. Strongly believe he'll be crucial for us.

I'm not sure what people are expecting this season. Over the weekend, I saw one poster say that we must get promotion this season due to the Sala case (even though Dalman said the money for that has been kept unused) and another say that this season is about building the foundations with this new style.

I agree with the latter of those. However, as said by others, I honestly believe we are one good striker away from being a top six team. The rest of our play has been very good and promising, although it is early days.

Hopefully by the time we've played our next six and reached that magic number of twelve games played, our team will be even more promising. Obviously for that to happen, we need to bring in at least one decent striker before Thursday night.

I am sure Steve Morison is working tooth and nail to make that happen.


All in all, I'm enjoying our new style and really excited to see our team develop over the next season.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:02 pm

Well said Sir.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:29 pm

Some good points, I was one who said I was disappointed with sawyers and would play colwill instead of him there to give us more threat. I know sawyers isn't a bad player and that may be why I'm slightly disappointed. Out of all the new signings he was one I knew most about and rightly or wrongly expected alot from. I know he will get better as will the whole team as they gel and get used to each others game.
Really have no clue where the season is going to take us yet, but I'm definitely enjoying it more than I have for many years.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:54 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:I've always said that.

But it has to be said I am relatively pleased with these first six games.

It is often said that you can't really tell how the season will go until we are twelve games in. We're halfway towards that amount of games played.

The quality of our football is very high right now. We are causing teams problems and have had periods of control in all these games so far. We didn't really see that with our previous style.

Obviously we're not turning our quality into goals and it's glaringly obvious to everyone, including Steve Morison behind the scenes I'm sure, that we need one if not two strikers before next week's deadline.

The players we have brought in have started to show their quality. I've especially been impressed with O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Romeo, Kipre and the sadly now injured Collins. Would also say that Nkounkou made a promising debut.

Seen a few comments from people who say they're disappointed with Sawyers. I totally disagree with that. You can't underestimate how important his technical quality will be for us, a lot of it goes unnoticed. Also has to be remembered he had a later start to pre-season than most of the others. Strongly believe he'll be crucial for us.

I'm not sure what people are expecting this season. Over the weekend, I saw one poster say that we must get promotion this season due to the Sala case (even though Dalman said the money for that has been kept unused) and another say that this season is about building the foundations with this new style.

I agree with the latter of those. However, as said by others, I honestly believe we are one good striker away from being a top six team. The rest of our play has been very good and promising, although it is early days.

Hopefully by the time we've played our next six and reached that magic number of twelve games played, our team will be even more promising. Obviously for that to happen, we need to bring in at least one decent striker before Thursday night.

I am sure Steve Morison is working tooth and nail to make that happen.


All in all, I'm enjoying our new style and really excited to see our team develop over the next season.


Good post. Cant argue with any of that. Once things click in the final third, I can see us smashing a few teams. Like you say, that might depend on who/if we can get someone in. I've been very impressed with Morisons recruitment so far. Hopefully he can get a decent striker in as well. And hopefully things improve as the team plays together more.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:46 pm

Good post Ned.
With the amount of new signings we’ve had along with a completely different (and better imo) style of play, I’m certainly not complaining.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Sun Aug 28, 2022 10:17 pm

Agree with that. If we can reach 10pts in the first month of the season, then that is a reasonable return. Performances have been 1000% up from last season. If we can get to 20pts or there about by the end of September, I'd be more than happy for a push for top 6, come the end of the season. But we need more bodies through the door, now and in January.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:17 am

Totally agree.
It's nice to read a common sense post on the forum as opposed to the hysteria that normally follows any game that we don't win.

With a team of free transfers I'd be happy with a top half finish this season.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:05 am

I’d predicted we would finish 8th although I had a sneaky bet to get promotion.Obviously we all want to finish as high as possible but I’m just enjoying the football and not too bothered where we finish as long as we don’t get roped in to a relegation scrap (which I dint think will happen).
Yes we need goals but they will come.You don’t just change so many squad players,a totally different playing style on the tightest of budgets over night.
This is an on going project that will take time so let’s embrace it :bluescarf:

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:24 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:I've always said that.

But it has to be said I am relatively pleased with these first six games.

It is often said that you can't really tell how the season will go until we are twelve games in. We're halfway towards that amount of games played.

The quality of our football is very high right now. We are causing teams problems and have had periods of control in all these games so far. We didn't really see that with our previous style.

Obviously we're not turning our quality into goals and it's glaringly obvious to everyone, including Steve Morison behind the scenes I'm sure, that we need one if not two strikers before next week's deadline.

The players we have brought in have started to show their quality. I've especially been impressed with O'Dowda, Rinomhota, Romeo, Kipre and the sadly now injured Collins. Would also say that Nkounkou made a promising debut.

Seen a few comments from people who say they're disappointed with Sawyers. I totally disagree with that. You can't underestimate how important his technical quality will be for us, a lot of it goes unnoticed. Also has to be remembered he had a later start to pre-season than most of the others. Strongly believe he'll be crucial for us.

I'm not sure what people are expecting this season. Over the weekend, I saw one poster say that we must get promotion this season due to the Sala case (even though Dalman said the money for that has been kept unused) and another say that this season is about building the foundations with this new style.

I agree with the latter of those. However, as said by others, I honestly believe we are one good striker away from being a top six team. The rest of our play has been very good and promising, although it is early days.

Hopefully by the time we've played our next six and reached that magic number of twelve games played, our team will be even more promising. Obviously for that to happen, we need to bring in at least one decent striker before Thursday night.

I am sure Steve Morison is working tooth and nail to make that happen.


All in all, I'm enjoying our new style and really excited to see our team develop over the next season.


Well said Ned excellent post, very positive :ayatollah:

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:30 am

Couldn't agree more. If we had a capable goal scorer we'd be top 2 no shadow of a doubt.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 9:47 am

Excellent post. It’s a process and we are getting better in small steps. Look how far we’ve come from the McCarthy era in terms of playing style and personnel. Even without the striker(s) it’s enjoyable to watch the team now. Also, importantly we have good options on the bench.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:19 am

Vaughny72 wrote:Excellent post. It’s a process and we are getting better in small steps. Look how far we’ve come from the McCarthy era in terms of playing style and personnel. Even without the striker(s) it’s enjoyable to watch the team now. Also, importantly we have good options on the bench.


Sorry, but I can’t quite understand how we are getting better in small steps. A couple of weeks ago we were I think 4th in the table in the play off position, since then we have gone three games without scoring a goal and have drifted down to 14th. I can’t quite see how this is getting better in small steps. Could you explain it to me.

People talk about hysteria if we don’t win a game and calls for Morrison to be sacked but can anyone point out to me one single post on here that has called for his sacking or any call by any welsh journalist calling for it.

it seems to me that there are a lot of Morrison loyalists who go into hysteria mode at any criticism of him, however mild. The fact of the matter is, I’ve just watched almost 5 hours of Cardiff city in action without them scoring a goal. To be honest I don’t really care if we play brilliant passing football if we are drifting down the table to a relegation position. I don’t think it is unreasonable to demand an end product for all this brilliant football?

I didn’t actually make a prediction for where we would finish in the table at the start of the season but if I had, it would be that we would finish about 13th or 14th. It seems to me we are on course for about that.

I hope the Morrison fans are right and there will suddenly be a huge breakthrough and we will suddenly start smashing teams to pieces, though who’s going to score the goals to do that is alluding me at the moment.

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 5:03 pm

Crayfish wrote:
Vaughny72 wrote:Excellent post. It’s a process and we are getting better in small steps. Look how far we’ve come from the McCarthy era in terms of playing style and personnel. Even without the striker(s) it’s enjoyable to watch the team now. Also, importantly we have good options on the bench.


Sorry, but I can’t quite understand how we are getting better in small steps. A couple of weeks ago we were I think 4th in the table in the play off position, since then we have gone three games without scoring a goal and have drifted down to 14th. I can’t quite see how this is getting better in small steps. Could you explain it to me.

People talk about hysteria if we don’t win a game and calls for Morrison to be sacked but can anyone point out to me one single post on here that has called for his sacking or any call by any welsh journalist calling for it.

it seems to me that there are a lot of Morrison loyalists who go into hysteria mode at any criticism of him, however mild. The fact of the matter is, I’ve just watched almost 5 hours of Cardiff city in action without them scoring a goal. To be honest I don’t really care if we play brilliant passing football if we are drifting down the table to a relegation position. I don’t think it is unreasonable to demand an end product for all this brilliant football?

I didn’t actually make a prediction for where we would finish in the table at the start of the season but if I had, it would be that we would finish about 13th or 14th. It seems to me we are on course for about that.

I hope the Morrison fans are right and there will suddenly be a huge breakthrough and we will suddenly start smashing teams to pieces, though who’s going to score the goals to do that is alluding me at the moment.[/quote

We have only played a few games, the table means absolutely nothing at this stage of the season, why don't you have a good look at the tables and see, we are one point off the top six and three points off automatic, means nothing :banghead:

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:32 pm

The old proverb, 'Rome was not built in a day' springs to mind with what Steve Morison is trying to achieve.
Too many fans are expecting instant success.

Yes, we have slipped to the bottom half of the league and are not scoring goals.
But, let's give the manager credit for clearing out some of the 'dead wood' in the squad and bringing in some fresh faces with a new enthusiasm and certainly a better style of football than the 'hoof-ball' we were watching for the last number of years.
In addition, he has had to do so with a budget of virtually zero.

It's stating the obvious to say that the team, if not the squad, will need strengthening as we progress, but this cannot all happen in one transfer window.
In addition, it will take Morison a few more matches before he can decide on his best formation with so many new faces in the squad.
I was rather pessimistic before the season started, but I feel the opposite now. I don't expect to finish higher than mid-table this season, but I am certain we are going in the right direction. Let's just support his philosophy which for me, has brought a breath of fresh air to the club.
Hopefully good times are not so far away. :old:

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:21 pm

Crayfish wrote:
Vaughny72 wrote:Excellent post. It’s a process and we are getting better in small steps. Look how far we’ve come from the McCarthy era in terms of playing style and personnel. Even without the striker(s) it’s enjoyable to watch the team now. Also, importantly we have good options on the bench.


Sorry, but I can’t quite understand how we are getting better in small steps. A couple of weeks ago we were I think 4th in the table in the play off position, since then we have gone three games without scoring a goal and have drifted down to 14th. I can’t quite see how this is getting better in small steps. Could you explain it to me.

People talk about hysteria if we don’t win a game and calls for Morrison to be sacked but can anyone point out to me one single post on here that has called for his sacking or any call by any welsh journalist calling for it.

it seems to me that there are a lot of Morrison loyalists who go into hysteria mode at any criticism of him, however mild. The fact of the matter is, I’ve just watched almost 5 hours of Cardiff city in action without them scoring a goal. To be honest I don’t really care if we play brilliant passing football if we are drifting down the table to a relegation position. I don’t think it is unreasonable to demand an end product for all this brilliant football?

I didn’t actually make a prediction for where we would finish in the table at the start of the season but if I had, it would be that we would finish about 13th or 14th. It seems to me we are on course for about that.

I hope the Morrison fans are right and there will suddenly be a huge breakthrough and we will suddenly start smashing teams to pieces, though who’s going to score the goals to do that is alluding me at the moment.


It's pretty pointless looking at the table after 4 games. You can literally move up or down 6 places after 1 result at that stage. We are only 2 points off 4th and 4 points off top. Comparing to last season is probably a better indication of progression. Again, Still pretty pointless at this stage.

There might not be calls for his sacking but there's consistently negative comments pretty much after everything he says/does. Especially after a loss.

If you think we will finish 14th, why are so annoyed that we are currently 14th? Surely we are doing exactly as you expect?

Re: " Never read too much into early season games "

Mon Aug 29, 2022 7:48 pm

Crayfish wrote:
Vaughny72 wrote:Excellent post. It’s a process and we are getting better in small steps. Look how far we’ve come from the McCarthy era in terms of playing style and personnel. Even without the striker(s) it’s enjoyable to watch the team now. Also, importantly we have good options on the bench.


Sorry, but I can’t quite understand how we are getting better in small steps. A couple of weeks ago we were I think 4th in the table in the play off position, since then we have gone three games without scoring a goal and have drifted down to 14th. I can’t quite see how this is getting better in small steps. Could you explain it to me.

People talk about hysteria if we don’t win a game and calls for Morrison to be sacked but can anyone point out to me one single post on here that has called for his sacking or any call by any welsh journalist calling for it.

it seems to me that there are a lot of Morrison loyalists who go into hysteria mode at any criticism of him, however mild. The fact of the matter is, I’ve just watched almost 5 hours of Cardiff city in action without them scoring a goal. To be honest I don’t really care if we play brilliant passing football if we are drifting down the table to a relegation position. I don’t think it is unreasonable to demand an end product for all this brilliant football?

I didn’t actually make a prediction for where we would finish in the table at the start of the season but if I had, it would be that we would finish about 13th or 14th. It seems to me we are on course for about that.

I hope the Morrison fans are right and there will suddenly be a huge breakthrough and we will suddenly start smashing teams to pieces, though who’s going to score the goals to do that is alluding me at the moment.

Watching the matches you can see how we are getting better and better every week as we dominate games and do seem to be creating more and more chances, admittedly we just can’t seem to finish them but that will soon come, even watters is bound to start finishing some of these chances. :D

It’s not so much people are calling for Morisons head yet, but there is a constant negativity towards him and everything he says and does whereas I actually quite like most of his interviews, some I can see peoples points where he says stuff wrong but I personally like the honesty and openness and I genuinely like how he actually sounds like he knows what he’s talking about. There’s also a massive negativity after every loss or draw when wht more can Steve morison do when some players just are not taking the chances that are being handed to them, watching us play we actually create a lot of decent and half decent opportunities so in my opinion even when we don’t score a goal o think our attacking sometimes has been great and I don’t blame the manager.

If you don’t mind me asking which 5 hours of games have you watched which you found the football which you didn’t like, only the Bristol game and the reading game(after the 25th minute) springs to mind as games where we actually looked bad. I’ve seen a few people say we should basically go away from this style and go back to hoofball, I’m hoping that’s a minority as that would be an awful idea and a step in the wrong direction, plus that would be an awful plystyle for this team which we are currently playing to their strengths.

13/14th and playing well will be a good enough season for us I think but I predict if we can start taking our chances we will finish a lot higher I’m sure as we have shown we can dominate teams at this level!

We can only hope like you say we start smashing teams which hopefully is soon as players step up their finishing and our team is only going to get better when they play with each other more! :ayatollah: