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Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:40 pm

Max Watters this season:

368 Minutes

6 Starts

0 Goals

0 Assists

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:45 pm

He just needs to make his run and not wait, he'd be in the right spot then and the goals will come. If the pressure was off today he would have squared to Colwill who would have had a tap in when he fired over :bluescarf: . ... Come on City. I'll be there Tuesday :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:47 pm

barnet blue wrote:Max Watters this season:

368 Minutes

6 Starts

0 Goals

0 Assists



Got long way to go before he beats ollie mcburnies 49games without a goal... :shock:

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:48 pm

And how many goals has the whole team scored this season so far? It doesn't seem to matter who is up front.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:07 pm

I thought he was superb today and for me our MOTM. He done everything well, and had hardly anything to feed off. When he came looking for the ball he held it up well and laid it off every time. Another game where we created very little considering how much we dominated the game. The goals will come the players are still getting to know each other. But another clean sheet at home just need to get the away form going now, and we could have a relatively good season.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:18 pm

I don't need a 200 word write up he's not good enough for this divison. Hes div 1 at best imo :bluescarf:

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:22 pm

brettski wrote:He just needs to make his run and not wait, he'd be in the right spot then and the goals will come. If the pressure was off today he would have squared to Colwill who would have had a tap in when he fired over :bluescarf: . ... Come on City. I'll be there Tuesday :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird:



Making wrong choice of pass is endemic throughout side when we get near penalty area. We need more composure like his blast over and our last kick over bar simple composure and we score.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:39 pm

I watched him particularly closely today. Thought he had a pretty good game. His link up play was very good at times. First half, hesitated a split second too long before shooting but it was a very good last ditch tackle from their defender. Very isolated on his own up top and we seem to delay putting the ball in the box.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:45 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I thought he was superb today and for me our MOTM. He done everything well, and had hardly anything to feed off. When he came looking for the ball he held it up well and laid it off every time. Another game where we created very little considering how much we dominated the game. The goals will come the players are still getting to know each other. But another clean sheet at home just need to get the away form going now, and we could have a relatively good season.


Really !!??

Firstly I completely accept that Watters contributed more today than in any other game this season. However, that’s not saying much !!

He had at least two chances that a half decent striker should score.

One he made himself by beating the centre back in a physical battle, getting one on one on the keeper (for the 3rd time in 4 games!) and then blasting over the bar.

The other chance was in the first half too, Colwill slipped him in the the box with a great ball and even after taking an extra touch that he didn’t need he couldn’t slip it past the keeper. Again, a half decent striker would have scored both.

Those saying that if he gets chances he will score, are running out of excuses. The guy is not up to standard and if we had a decent striker we would be in the top 3/4 at the moment (not necessarily at the end of the season !).

Put someone like Hugill in and thinks will get very interesting.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:54 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I thought he was superb today and for me our MOTM. He done everything well, and had hardly anything to feed off. When he came looking for the ball he held it up well and laid it off every time. Another game where we created very little considering how much we dominated the game. The goals will come the players are still getting to know each other. But another clean sheet at home just need to get the away form going now, and we could have a relatively good season.


Really !!??

Firstly I completely accept that Watters contributed more today than in any other game this season. However, that’s not saying much !!

He had at least two chances that a half decent striker should score.

One he made himself by beating the centre back in a physical battle, getting one on one on the keeper (for the 3rd time in 4 games!) and then blasting over the bar.

The other chance was in the first half too, Colwill slipped him in the the box with a great ball and even after taking an extra touch that he didn’t need he couldn’t slip it past the keeper. Again, a half decent striker would have scored both.

Those saying that if he gets chances he will score, are running out of excuses. The guy is not up to standard and if we had a decent striker we would be in the top 3/4 at the moment (not necessarily at the end of the season !).

Put someone like Hugill in and thinks will get very interesting.


Not sure how you can call the one he created himself a “one on one” als it was outside the box, and also the fact the ball went over the bar was because a covering defender got his toe onto it? The other chance you mention I agree he should have taken the shot earlier but I think he was expecting the defender to commit earlier hence why he took the extra touch. I can’t see what any other striker could have done in todays game. Not even the likes of Haaland and Kane would be scoring the chance he created himself every time probably not even 8 times out of 10. But as I said in my original post when you do t have chances the rest of your game is what matters, and today Watters play was brilliant.

I certainly don’t think Hugill would be doing any better, I can’t see how he improves us in any way. He is more of a nuisance for a direct set up, which is certainly not the way we play these days and he has little to no pace. He went more than 6 games without scoring last season at times for us too a couple of times.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:54 pm

Give him a few more seasons something will break.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:10 pm

barnet blue wrote:Max Watters this season:

368 Minutes

6 Starts

0 Goals

0 Assists

Of course, you're not a crestor of pointless/needless/uninformed threads and/or posts are you, barnet blue...? :?

Did you get that loaded stat from someone else's post (maybe even on another Forum)?

Watters serms to be this season's 'Boo Boy' target and whilst he hasn't hit the heights, our one failure has been to provide a high ratio of opportunities

Having criticised him last week, I thought he did well today and got himself about without that touch of luck that would have taken 3 points against the most negatively organised side I have seen in a while and seen us up into a 5th place play-off position

Timing is everything, barnet blue. Sadly, you lack it...! :roll: :oops:

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:18 pm

For those that can say they were there.
We had Dean Saunders on loan in 1985.
Couldn’t hit a barn door with Banjo!!!
Gary Lineker - Cup game at Shrewsbury V Everton fans slagging him off as he hadn’t scored in six games. Scored and the rest is history.
Give Max a chance.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:31 pm

Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I thought he was superb today and for me our MOTM. He done everything well, and had hardly anything to feed off. When he came looking for the ball he held it up well and laid it off every time. Another game where we created very little considering how much we dominated the game. The goals will come the players are still getting to know each other. But another clean sheet at home just need to get the away form going now, and we could have a relatively good season.


Really !!??

Firstly I completely accept that Watters contributed more today than in any other game this season. However, that’s not saying much !!

He had at least two chances that a half decent striker should score.

One he made himself by beating the centre back in a physical battle, getting one on one on the keeper (for the 3rd time in 4 games!) and then blasting over the bar.

The other chance was in the first half too, Colwill slipped him in the the box with a great ball and even after taking an extra touch that he didn’t need he couldn’t slip it past the keeper. Again, a half decent striker would have scored both.

Those saying that if he gets chances he will score, are running out of excuses. The guy is not up to standard and if we had a decent striker we would be in the top 3/4 at the moment (not necessarily at the end of the season !).

Put someone like Hugill in and thinks will get very interesting.


Not sure how you can call the one he created himself a “one on one” als it was outside the box, and also the fact the ball went over the bar was because a covering defender got his toe onto it? The other chance you mention I agree he should have taken the shot earlier but I think he was expecting the defender to commit earlier hence why he took the extra touch. I can’t see what any other striker could have done in todays game. Not even the likes of Haaland and Kane would be scoring the chance he created himself every time probably not even 8 times out of 10. But as I said in my original post when you do t have chances the rest of your game is what matters, and today Watters play was brilliant.

I certainly don’t think Hugill would be doing any better, I can’t see how he improves us in any way. He is more of a nuisance for a direct set up, which is certainly not the way we play these days and he has little to no pace. He went more than 6 games without scoring last season at times for us too a couple of times.


Are you seriously saying gat Hugill is no improvement on Watters !!??

His hold up play is better, he’s better in the air, he provides a physical presence, he scored more goals than Watters and provides more assists than Watters !!!!

Perhaps you’d like to explain your reasoning that Hugill wouldn’t be doing anything any better !!!!???

Come on, get real. Hugill may not be the answer but he’s certainly a better option than Watters in any department you want to mention.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:40 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:I thought he was superb today and for me our MOTM. He done everything well, and had hardly anything to feed off. When he came looking for the ball he held it up well and laid it off every time. Another game where we created very little considering how much we dominated the game. The goals will come the players are still getting to know each other. But another clean sheet at home just need to get the away form going now, and we could have a relatively good season.


Really !!??

Firstly I completely accept that Watters contributed more today than in any other game this season. However, that’s not saying much !!

He had at least two chances that a half decent striker should score.

One he made himself by beating the centre back in a physical battle, getting one on one on the keeper (for the 3rd time in 4 games!) and then blasting over the bar.

The other chance was in the first half too, Colwill slipped him in the the box with a great ball and even after taking an extra touch that he didn’t need he couldn’t slip it past the keeper. Again, a half decent striker would have scored both.

Those saying that if he gets chances he will score, are running out of excuses. The guy is not up to standard and if we had a decent striker we would be in the top 3/4 at the moment (not necessarily at the end of the season !).

Put someone like Hugill in and thinks will get very interesting.


Not sure how you can call the one he created himself a “one on one” als it was outside the box, and also the fact the ball went over the bar was because a covering defender got his toe onto it? The other chance you mention I agree he should have taken the shot earlier but I think he was expecting the defender to commit earlier hence why he took the extra touch. I can’t see what any other striker could have done in todays game. Not even the likes of Haaland and Kane would be scoring the chance he created himself every time probably not even 8 times out of 10. But as I said in my original post when you do t have chances the rest of your game is what matters, and today Watters play was brilliant.

I certainly don’t think Hugill would be doing any better, I can’t see how he improves us in any way. He is more of a nuisance for a direct set up, which is certainly not the way we play these days and he has little to no pace. He went more than 6 games without scoring last season at times for us too a couple of times.


Are you seriously saying gat Hugill is no improvement on Watters !!??

His hold up play is better, he’s better in the air, he provides a physical presence, he scored more goals than Watters and provides more assists than Watters !!!!

Perhaps you’d like to explain your reasoning that Hugill wouldn’t be doing anything any better !!!!???

Come on, get real. Hugill may not be the answer but he’s certainly a better option than Watters in any department you want to mention.


Yes I am saying that. As he does not suit our style of play which I alluded to in my previous post. Yes he scored 4 in 18 last season for us, as we played a more direct game. Once we knew we were safe and we started to implement this seasons way of playing he struggled to score apart from the last game of the season against Derby. And he missed numerous chances last season, where he should have scored and that’s no different to any striker in any team it happens.

So that is my reasoning, in no way will he benefit us in the way we play currently. If we want to change our style and go more direct then yes he will. But I think everyone is happy with the way we play now and we all know it’s a work in progress, and a lot of people seem to forget that this team is still gelling together.

Re: Max Watters

Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:58 pm

I have critisised him this season - but not today - he worked really hard and like many others played well! ( Perry Ng at the back was very assured ).

Re: Max Watters

Sun Aug 28, 2022 9:04 am

We're doing okay as austerity pointed out he worked hard ,it's a new team , different styles , Watters needs 3 more games at least

If u cant do a cr@p get off the pot & let someone else have

Sun Aug 28, 2022 1:54 pm

If I get a plumber I expect him to be able to change a tap
If I get a sparky I expect him to be able to change a socket
If we get a player and hire him as a striker - then we should reasonably expect him to put the ball in the net.

Watters may be having some good games - but his reactions dont seem fast enough or he doesnt know where to go.
League 1 he wouldnt have a problem as he would have more time on the ball.

I really hope he gets a bit of luck as well as study's his performances. His attitude and fitness seem spot on - maybe once he gets a goal he'll be fine.
Basically - if cant actually deliver a cr@p then get off the potty and give someone else a go. In this case that means Harris or someone else a chance

Re: Max Watters

Sun Aug 28, 2022 6:01 pm

The hate for Max is a bit harsh. He hasn’t scored, he’s missed potentially 2 good chances to score in the first few games.

If you get a striker you expect them to score, but to score you also expect them to be given service. Moore is a prime example, scored bags full for us when serviced well, struggled at the start of last season, yes his head was turned but he had 0 deliveries compared to the season before.

Hugill is hardly much different, 31 games 4 goals in 20/21, 38 games 5 goals 21/22. If we sign him it’ll just be to please fans and the media, and I’m not sure it would improve the quality only increase the quantity

Re: Max Watters

Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:18 pm

Hugill would a) be an extra player to spread the load over the season b) is a proven championship striker who is also bigger and stronger than watters is so less likely to be knocked off things. C) he’s worked with the manager who knows his strengths
So if we were to sign him I think it would be because SM wants him and knows where he will fit.