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ion wrote:I don't think he's being racist,but what he's got to realise is you pick a player because of how good they are and how much you can afford,it's not that your picking a player because they are black etc,but his needs to choose his words more carefully
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:19 pm
piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:21 pm
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:22 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:What a pathetic comment, if those players put in a shift for the shirt I do not give a toss about their colour, creed or religion or if they take a knee or not.
Totall outdated comment and silent racism at its finest. If you dont like seeing so many black players then feck off and support someone else.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:37 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:I'd call it an observation more than racism. Although, in this day and age, people need to be more clever about what they say, especially online.
The media made similar comments about the England women's team recently, about them all being white.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:30 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:31 pm
piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:12 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
One of the summarisers at the stadium / studio did make the comment.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:16 pm
piledriver64 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
One of the summarisers at the stadium / studio did make the comment.
Well they shouldn't, simple.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:25 pm
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:28 pm
piledriver64 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
One of the summarisers at the stadium / studio did make the comment.
Well they shouldn't, simple.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:30 pm
Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:05 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:For those interested here are some media articles relating to the England women's team:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/lio ... 35633.html
https://www.football365.com/news/opinio ... ould-fixed
The same rhetoric was used when Italy won the Euros too:
https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status ... 55?lang=en
Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:08 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
One of the summarisers at the stadium / studio did make the comment.
Well they shouldn't, simple.
People are free to say as they wish and shouldn't be labeled racist for making an observation. You may not agree with the comment, and that is fine, but the person has stated something that has caused no harm, and no offense, except for the virtue signallers who have taken it as an opportunity to blow smoke and show their superior morality.
In the worst-case scenario, this could escalate to this person being fired from their job. I agree, we don't need to mention race but it doesn't make this person a bad person, and neither does it make them a racist.
I didn't see any of the posters who are "outraged" stating anything when the media called the English team all white.
Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:00 pm
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Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:52 am
JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I'm not sure what's more shocking, the statement or the fact there are people on here defending it.
To me the comment should be that this team is different to recent seasons in that it has ability and a degree of potentialWhy on earth the ethnic profile is worth even a comment in this day and age is frightening and disappointing in equal measure.
A few months ago there was a topic on here claiming that we had no problem with racism in our club. Maybe correct, but we clearly have fans that need some educating on equality or have antiquated attitudes.
Nobody is defending it. Just stating it's not a racist comment, it's an observation that they should have thought more carefully about before writing. Do you think the media stating the England women's team is all white is a racist comment?
It would be but they haven’t. There is no need/reason to distinguish, simple.
One of the summarisers at the stadium / studio did make the comment.
Well they shouldn't, simple.
People are free to say as they wish and shouldn't be labeled racist for making an observation. You may not agree with the comment, and that is fine, but the person has stated something that has caused no harm, and no offense, except for the virtue signallers who have taken it as an opportunity to blow smoke and show their superior morality.
In the worst-case scenario, this could escalate to this person being fired from their job. I agree, we don't need to mention race but it doesn't make this person a bad person, and neither does it make them a racist.
I didn't see any of the posters who are "outraged" stating anything when the media called the English team all white.
Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:00 am
Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:04 am
Wardy64 wrote:He is not being racist just, we are not racist as a club. I think he was just making a point. The BBC made exactly the same point regarding the England women's team in reverse, they are all white.
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