Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:44 am
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Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:01 am
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:02 am
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:42 am
Barclay1 wrote:Thats good to hear, cheers fella.
I said it last week that the goodwill gained from a plethora of early signings, some of known quality, others of unknown quality, is fast being eroded with the lack of strikers.
We cant continue to say, we are looking, or we are close, forever. There are strikers to be had who might cost a fee, or a loan fee.
The regime cannot continue to derail plans to build quality by refusing to sanction salaries, fees, loan fees for at least two strikers.
These are the guys, who, more often than not, win you games.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:53 am
Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:21 am
Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:25 am
HarriRhys22 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:Thats good to hear, cheers fella.
I said it last week that the goodwill gained from a plethora of early signings, some of known quality, others of unknown quality, is fast being eroded with the lack of strikers.
We cant continue to say, we are looking, or we are close, forever. There are strikers to be had who might cost a fee, or a loan fee.
The regime cannot continue to derail plans to build quality by refusing to sanction salaries, fees, loan fees for at least two strikers.
These are the guys, who, more often than not, win you games.
To accuse Tan of not spending money is ridiculous, on his Managers recommendations he authorised the signing of strikers such as Cornelius £8m,Madine £6m,Murphy £11m,Reed £10m,Glatzel £5.5m,Sick Note£2m,Ward£2m,Bogle£1m to name a few! that’s £45.5million, none of whom were a success with us! Let Morison who was a striker himself bide his time and hopefully bring in the right strikers in! probably loans from the Premier League. Spending big money on hunches has rarely paid off for our club that’s why we failed in the Premier League.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am
City slicker27 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
So you won't be giving Tan any credit then. I'd imagine you'll deem the striker not good enough/not experienced/panic buy/nobody else wants etc regardless.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:31 pm
Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:34 pm
stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:15 pm
stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:34 pm
Barclay1 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
I would be more than happy if SM said he got his No1 target ( and No2 and 3!).
If thats the case was it always the plan to wait until after the season starts to finish our dealings and to go the first half dozen games without a recognised or decent striker?
Bit risky for me.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:36 pm
stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers
Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:57 pm
Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:12 pm
Barclay1 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.
I would be more than happy if SM said he got his No1 target ( and No2 and 3!).
If thats the case was it always the plan to wait until after the season starts to finish our dealings and to go the first half dozen games without a recognised or decent striker?
Bit risky for me.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:51 pm
Barclay1 wrote:One that will fit our style and one that SM wants, rather than one that we will be left with because nobody else wants?
Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm
Sven wrote:Barclay1 wrote:One that will fit our style and one that SM wants, rather than one that we will be left with because nobody else wants?
Jonny, no offence meant but I completely fail to see the value of this thread...?
Nothing has happened, no one has been mis-signed and the search goes on in what is very much a seller/loaners market
It's almost like you are actively looking to find negativity amongst the mainly positive?
Having read Steve Borley's interesting interview, it is plain to see that we are playing within a very tight budget, which is majorly influenced by two things, i.e. FFP and a lack of sufficient crowds when the going gets tough
We have a lot of supporters with the 'they don't come and see me when I'm bad' logic and that has a knock on effect financially for the club and squad
If I learned one thing from the Steve Borley interview, it is that it is not all about the Board splashing the cash, it's about being 'smart' in the market and the 'supporters' playing their part by turning up
I'll be there, I think you will be, but others will stay away for a mix of genuine and manufactured reasons
Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 pm
Barclay1 wrote:City slicker27 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.
I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!
I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!
Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.
I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons
1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum
2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed
Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.
So you won't be giving Tan any credit then. I'd imagine you'll deem the striker not good enough/not experienced/panic buy/nobody else wants etc regardless.
Err, exactly the opposite to what I have said. Please read my statement.
Please note, a point of course that you are acutely aware of, I have said a few signings have been decent, but it's easier for you to ignore my more positive responses.
At the other end of the scale, your also quite right, if we choose to pick up the crumbs from the top table and pick the bones of whats left, then no I wont be happy.
Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:29 pm