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A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:44 am

One that will fit our style and one that SM wants, rather than one that we will be left with because nobody else wants?

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 am

I hear what you say and agree, surely there are some out there ...Jamal Lowe at Bournemouth not getting much game time, ellis simms at Everton. Its been said money is available for the right buy,
By the way Joanthan i tend to agree with a lot of what you say..keep giving your opinions they are yours. :bluescarf:

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:46 am

Thats good to hear, cheers fella.

I said it last week that the goodwill gained from a plethora of early signings, some of known quality, others of unknown quality, is fast being eroded with the lack of strikers.

We cant continue to say, we are looking, or we are close, forever. There are strikers to be had who might cost a fee, or a loan fee.

The regime cannot continue to derail plans to build quality by refusing to sanction salaries, fees, loan fees for at least two strikers.

These are the guys, who, more often than not, win you games.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 am

I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:01 am

jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:02 am

Lets keep fingers crossed that it is quality that come in, Collins is going, i am still not convinced on Watters or Harris, think we need three good strikers and offload one of Watters or Harris :bluescarf:

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:42 am

Barclay1 wrote:Thats good to hear, cheers fella.

I said it last week that the goodwill gained from a plethora of early signings, some of known quality, others of unknown quality, is fast being eroded with the lack of strikers.

We cant continue to say, we are looking, or we are close, forever. There are strikers to be had who might cost a fee, or a loan fee.

The regime cannot continue to derail plans to build quality by refusing to sanction salaries, fees, loan fees for at least two strikers.

These are the guys, who, more often than not, win you games.


To accuse Tan of not spending money is ridiculous, on his Managers recommendations he authorised the signing of strikers such as Cornelius £8m,Madine £6m,Murphy £11m,Reed £10m,Glatzel £5.5m,Sick Note£2m,Ward£2m,Bogle£1m to name a few! that’s £45.5million, none of whom were a success with us! Let Morison who was a striker himself bide his time and hopefully bring in the right strikers in! probably loans from the Premier League. Spending big money on hunches has rarely paid off for our club that’s why we failed in the Premier League.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:53 am

Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.

I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:21 am

Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.


So you won't be giving Tan any credit then. I'd imagine you'll deem the striker not good enough/not experienced/panic buy/nobody else wants etc regardless.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:23 am

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.

I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.


I would be more than happy if SM said he got his No1 target ( and No2 and 3!).

If thats the case was it always the plan to wait until after the season starts to finish our dealings and to go the first half dozen games without a recognised or decent striker?

Bit risky for me.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:25 am

HarriRhys22 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:Thats good to hear, cheers fella.

I said it last week that the goodwill gained from a plethora of early signings, some of known quality, others of unknown quality, is fast being eroded with the lack of strikers.

We cant continue to say, we are looking, or we are close, forever. There are strikers to be had who might cost a fee, or a loan fee.

The regime cannot continue to derail plans to build quality by refusing to sanction salaries, fees, loan fees for at least two strikers.

These are the guys, who, more often than not, win you games.


To accuse Tan of not spending money is ridiculous, on his Managers recommendations he authorised the signing of strikers such as Cornelius £8m,Madine £6m,Murphy £11m,Reed £10m,Glatzel £5.5m,Sick Note£2m,Ward£2m,Bogle£1m to name a few! that’s £45.5million, none of whom were a success with us! Let Morison who was a striker himself bide his time and hopefully bring in the right strikers in! probably loans from the Premier League. Spending big money on hunches has rarely paid off for our club that’s why we failed in the Premier League.


You can see that we are talking about this season, not seasons gone by, but you choose to ignore.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:30 am

City slicker27 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.


So you won't be giving Tan any credit then. I'd imagine you'll deem the striker not good enough/not experienced/panic buy/nobody else wants etc regardless.


Err, exactly the opposite to what I have said. Please read my statement.

Please note, a point of course that you are acutely aware of, I have said a few signings have been decent, but it's easier for you to ignore my more positive responses.

At the other end of the scale, your also quite right, if we choose to pick up the crumbs from the top table and pick the bones of whats left, then no I wont be happy.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:31 pm

From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:34 pm

stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers



Totally agree and ASAP

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:15 pm

stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers

Yup, I've said in a few posts that we need to replace the experience lost in Flint and (potentially) Morrisson. Strikers too as particularly Harris and Collins aren't good enough IMO.
I'm not sure about Watters as he is good at making clever runs and may flourish if we play to his strengths.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:34 pm

Barclay1 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.

I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.


I would be more than happy if SM said he got his No1 target ( and No2 and 3!).

If thats the case was it always the plan to wait until after the season starts to finish our dealings and to go the first half dozen games without a recognised or decent striker?

Bit risky for me.


It is risky but it's a risk that probably needs taking if we want the quality that you , and most others, seek.

It's a simple fact that Prem teams will wait until the last possible moment before making moves and releasing/loaning people. There's a reason why Sky only have a special transfer window program on the last day of the window :lol:

It was better in recent years because business had to be completed by the end of July but this season we're back to having to wait until 11.00pm on 1st September.

On a positive note, and I know your not keen on those !!, technically the window only opened on 10th June so we're not even halfway through the window and even the least optimistic amongst us would accept that we've done way more than half the business we need to do :lol:

So buckle up and hang on because I would be amazed if we concluded our business much earlier than the deadline. We can only hope that the wait is worth it, particularly for a couple of decent strikers :bluebird:

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:36 pm

stickywicket wrote:From watching the friendly we need an experienced
centre back and a couple of strikers

Tottally agree ,I'm excited by our mid field options this season .

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:57 pm

Signed one 4 weeks ago and another one should be signing any day now according to the ITK gang :thumbright:

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:12 pm

Barclay1 wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.

I hear what you say but it could turn out to be a waiting game. I’d rather wait and SM say ‘We have got our number one striker target’ It is difficult as we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes.


I would be more than happy if SM said he got his No1 target ( and No2 and 3!).

If thats the case was it always the plan to wait until after the season starts to finish our dealings and to go the first half dozen games without a recognised or decent striker?

Bit risky for me.

Forgot to add that it is indeed risky but great if the waiting pays off.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:51 pm

Barclay1 wrote:One that will fit our style and one that SM wants, rather than one that we will be left with because nobody else wants?

Jonny, no offence meant but I completely fail to see the value of this thread...?

Nothing has happened, no one has been mis-signed and the search goes on in what is very much a seller/loaners market

It's almost like you are actively looking to find negativity amongst the mainly positive?

Having read Steve Borley's interesting interview, it is plain to see that we are playing within a very tight budget, which is majorly influenced by two things, i.e. FFP and a lack of sufficient crowds when the going gets tough

We have a lot of supporters with the 'they don't come and see me when I'm bad' logic and that has a knock on effect financially for the club and squad

If I learned one thing from the Steve Borley interview, it is that it is not all about the Board splashing the cash, it's about being 'smart' in the market and the 'supporters' playing their part by turning up

I'll be there, I think you will be, but others will stay away for a mix of genuine and manufactured reasons

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm

Sven wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:One that will fit our style and one that SM wants, rather than one that we will be left with because nobody else wants?

Jonny, no offence meant but I completely fail to see the value of this thread...?

Nothing has happened, no one has been mis-signed and the search goes on in what is very much a seller/loaners market

It's almost like you are actively looking to find negativity amongst the mainly positive?

Having read Steve Borley's interesting interview, it is plain to see that we are playing within a very tight budget, which is majorly influenced by two things, i.e. FFP and a lack of sufficient crowds when the going gets tough

We have a lot of supporters with the 'they don't come and see me when I'm bad' logic and that has a knock on effect financially for the club and squad

If I learned one thing from the Steve Borley interview, it is that it is not all about the Board splashing the cash, it's about being 'smart' in the market and the 'supporters' playing their part by turning up

I'll be there, I think you will be, but others will stay away for a mix of genuine and manufactured reasons


Chris, I appreciate the response.

The thread represents a concern that, whilst I believe SM has been able to attract, in the main, the players he wants, the striker issue, for me becomes more of a concern as time goes by.

As a club, in the recent past, we have ended a transfer window without a recognised right back and also saw a time when we had only one striker of note, who, when injured left us with no experience or quality up front.

Knowing this has happened before, surely it is a concern that we may again find ourselves without cover in a key position and be asked to 'go again' which could burst a bubble of excitement held by a good majority.

Now, bubble of excitement? Me? Maybe not yet, but there is a level of intrigue which will draw me and that will be enhanced by a few striker signings.

Ive applauded a number of signings this year, but the lack of striker converns me the longer we go on.

As you say, its in the blood, and ill be there home and away.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 pm

Barclay1 wrote:
City slicker27 wrote:
Barclay1 wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:I agree with you Barclay. But I think it's still early for PL clubs. A lot only start back today. They'll want a look at their youngsters/fringe players first.

I'm being patient. Well, I'm giving it a week!!

I'll be off to Shrewsbury and I hope we have someone in by then!!!


Shrewsbury, Swindon and Cheltenham for me, and absolutely, we need to see some movement in a striker situation by then.

I understand the loan window will close after the season starts, but Im not a great fan of waiting until the end of a loan window for various reasons

1. We go a handful of games before getting our most competitive squad, drop points ibts when we could hqve gained and eirher lose or gain initial momentum

2. If we lose out on our targets late in the day then were stuffed

Ill tell you what, Tan will get some credit if he were to sanction two GOOD strikers before the season starts.


So you won't be giving Tan any credit then. I'd imagine you'll deem the striker not good enough/not experienced/panic buy/nobody else wants etc regardless.


Err, exactly the opposite to what I have said. Please read my statement.

Please note, a point of course that you are acutely aware of, I have said a few signings have been decent, but it's easier for you to ignore my more positive responses.

At the other end of the scale, your also quite right, if we choose to pick up the crumbs from the top table and pick the bones of whats left, then no I wont be happy.


It's easy to ignore them because you rarely post them :lol:

I did read your statement and my view hasn't changed since. You will probably have some sort of issue with whoever we bring in and reading your last statement only highlights that further.

Re: A new week, any further developments on a Striker?

Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:29 pm

Still Waiting ......