Drakeford Chalet in Pembrokeshirte is not a second home.....

Just read the news that Drakeford and Adam Price leader of Plaid Cymru have introduced a new 'law' that will allow councils to triple / quadruple the council tax on second homes / holiday homes in Wales. Planning consent will now be needed for lets etc.

BUT - As it turns out - Drakeford fessed up to owning a 'chalet' in Pembrokeshire that he uses for holidays - so a second home / holiday home. However the new rules dont apply to Drakeford as chalets are exempt. Classic champagne socialsm at work.

Then Adam Price was asked he if he has 2 homes in Wales - he said he has a home in Carmarthenshire and also place in Cardiff. But the second home in Cardiff his a constiuency residence or waords to that affect - so although it is a second home it is not a real second home - therefore his rules dont apply to him.

Just read the news that Drakeford and Adam Price leader of Plaid Cymru have introduced a new 'law' that will allow councils to triple / quadruple the council tax on second homes / holiday homes in Wales. Planning consent will now be needed for lets etc.

BUT - As it turns out - Drakeford fessed up to owning a 'chalet' in Pembrokeshire that he uses for holidays - so a second home / holiday home. However the new rules dont apply to Drakeford as chalets are exempt. Classic champagne socialsm at work.

Then Adam Price was asked he if he has 2 homes in Wales - he said he has a home in Carmarthenshire and also place in Cardiff. But the second home in Cardiff his a constiuency residence or waords to that affect - so although it is a second home it is not a real second home - therefore his rules dont apply to him.

Drakeford says as his chalet in kiln park is only allowed u be us 10mnths of year it's not classed a 2nd home or holiday home... yet it's a permanent structure unlike a caravan that is mobile...... he is using the fact it's not on a residential site but a touring site to take piss out of people ? He and his cronies are morally corrupt as boris's mob...

So true, Drakeford making rules that just so happen to circumnavigate his second home situation.
As for Adam Price at Plaid - I remember when Welsh Nationallists used to burn down second homes - now it's a must have accessory for every Welsh Nationalist and Champagne Socialist

Welsh Labour has been a complete and utter disaster for Wales with a string of ridiculous policies and decisions which have made Wales the poorest region in the U.K.

Mark Drakeford is probably the most uninspiring leader I can think of and Adam Price a complete hypocrite

Welsh Labour has been a complete and utter disaster for Wales with a string of ridiculous policies and decisions which have made Wales the poorest region in the U.K.

Mark Drakeford is probably the most uninspiring leader I can think of and Adam Price a complete hypocrite

Its only going to get worse .... he as a raft of policies that panders to every lunatic that's got an agenda? Good causes will be ignored while vanity causes that looks good to voters will have money lavished on them so wasting millions of our money for none or little benefit to population.

He also has a very large garden home , and been spotted in caravan sites .

What happens if we give him a sort chequers first minster home will that count as extras ?

As a breed politicians, with a few exceptions, are self serving hypocritical scum. I’m sick of the lot of them and irrespective of who’s in power big business calls the tune.

Ordinary people up and down the country have chalets and static caravans and this law is not designed to punish them but to dissuade people from buying RESIDENTIAL properties as holiday homes or BNB lets.Fkn stupid thread.

Ordinary people up and down the country have chalets and static caravans and this law is not designed to punish them but to dissuade people from buying RESIDENTIAL properties as holiday homes or BNB lets.Fkn stupid thread.

All well and good but latest plan which his pad doesnt come under is hes changing planning laws so that if you want to buy a property in another area like pembs you have to go through planning dept to get change of use? Do you know how hard that is in national park ..... they can simply say no got to many properties to let in this area so cannot sell unless it's to a local at vastly reduced price because they cant afford normal price... but hes ok only got a 3 bedroom chalet to slum in when he wants along with his chums ect.

Ordinary people up and down the country have chalets and static caravans and this law is not designed to punish them but to dissuade people from buying RESIDENTIAL properties as holiday homes or BNB lets.Fkn stupid thread.

All well and good but latest plan which his pad doesnt come under is hes changing planning laws so that if you want to buy a property in another area like pembs you have to go through planning dept to get change of use? Do you know how hard that is in national park ..... they can simply say no got to many properties to let in this area so cannot sell unless it's to a local at vastly reduced price because they cant afford normal price... but hes ok only got a 3 bedroom chalet to slum in when he wants along with his chums ect.

You have to pay Council tax on a UK property in order to own a 10 month static Caravan,Chalet.It's the same down Trecco.They have built new lodges.Same rules apply.I daresay you already new that.

Ordinary people up and down the country have chalets and static caravans and this law is not designed to punish them but to dissuade people from buying RESIDENTIAL properties as holiday homes or BNB lets.Fkn stupid thread.

All well and good but latest plan which his pad doesnt come under is hes changing planning laws so that if you want to buy a property in another area like pembs you have to go through planning dept to get change of use? Do you know how hard that is in national park ..... they can simply say no got to many properties to let in this area so cannot sell unless it's to a local at vastly reduced price because they cant afford normal price... but hes ok only got a 3 bedroom chalet to slum in when he wants along with his chums ect.

You have to pay Council tax on a UK property in order to own a 10 month static Caravan,Chalet.It's the same down Trecco.They have built new lodges.Same rules apply.I daresay you already new that.

Yes lived in such many years ago....... it's just the irony putting new rules in place to achieve absolutely nothing while he owns a place in very area he complains about 2nd home owners are living part of the year .... people are totally ignorant of the reasons why there 2nd homes drakeford included.

The locals didn’t mind selling these house to outsiders over the last 20/40 years either did they? Now they moan they can’t afford a house, or their kids can’t. Pembs is piss cheap compared to Cardiff too, driving through it the other day and there’s just endless miles of nothing but farmland….how about creating some much needed employment and building some starter homes on the swathes of empty land? Better still, just tax those who have managed to work and attain something…..
Plenty hh owners are selling up already I hear…..

The locals didn’t mind selling these house to outsiders over the last 20/40 years either did they? Now they moan they can’t afford a house, or their kids can’t. Pembs is piss cheap compared to Cardiff too, driving through it the other day and there’s just endless miles of nothing but farmland….how about creating some much needed employment and building some starter homes on the swathes of empty land? Better still, just tax those who have managed to work and attain something…..
Plenty hh owners are selling up already I hear…..

Your right about selling up and locals selling their homes at market prices how dare them? Drakefords ideas are pathetic and does nothing to address affordable homes for locals... the help to buy scheme is a joke as need to earn jointly 40k to afford mortgage well above average wages here do rich people from outside
pembs ect but them for kids as a way around 2nd homes... just wasted lots money building 29 social housing for locals here in st davids? A place where no one wants to live 16mls from haverfordwest...and only 6 locals given property and most those wasn't entitled to one off
the council..... normally they go to migrants from Birmingham if stories are to be believed.

The locals didn’t mind selling these house to outsiders over the last 20/40 years either did they? Now they moan they can’t afford a house, or their kids can’t. Pembs is piss cheap compared to Cardiff too, driving through it the other day and there’s just endless miles of nothing but farmland….how about creating some much needed employment and building some starter homes on the swathes of empty land? Better still, just tax those who have managed to work and attain something…..
Plenty hh owners are selling up already I hear…..

Your right about selling up and locals selling their homes at market prices how dare them? Drakefords ideas are pathetic and does nothing to address affordable homes for locals... the help to buy scheme is a joke as need to earn jointly 40k to afford mortgage well above average wages here do rich people from outside
pembs ect but them for kids as a way around 2nd homes... just wasted lots money building 29 social housing for locals here in st davids? A place where no one wants to live 16mls from haverfordwest...and only 6 locals given property and most those wasn't entitled to one off
the council..... normally they go to migrants from Birmingham if stories are to be believed.

Thanks for the info I've just applied for one myself.If no one wants to live there I must stand a chance.It sounds good.

New affordable to rent homes in St Davids coming soon

We are excited to announce that our brand new homes on the development at Glasfryn Road in St Davids, are coming to the ChoiceHomes@Pembrokeshire website soon!
If you aren’t on the Housing Register already you still have a little time to apply. The quickest way to do this is to 1. download, 2. complete the form and 3. email back to housingapplications@atebgroup.co.uk

A promise was given to the local community that when these new homes are first let, priority would be given to people who need a home from within the local community.

Our local letting scheme delivers this promise, giving priority to those living in St Davids and Cathedral Close, Solva and the Parish of Llanrhian.

We pride ourselves on working with the local community when planning our developments and can’t wait to see these homes let.

For more information please download our St Davids leaflet.

The locals didn’t mind selling these house to outsiders over the last 20/40 years either did they? Now they moan they can’t afford a house, or their kids can’t. Pembs is piss cheap compared to Cardiff too, driving through it the other day and there’s just endless miles of nothing but farmland….how about creating some much needed employment and building some starter homes on the swathes of empty land? Better still, just tax those who have managed to work and attain something…..
Plenty hh owners are selling up already I hear…..

Your right about selling up and locals selling their homes at market prices how dare them? Drakefords ideas are pathetic and does nothing to address affordable homes for locals... the help to buy scheme is a joke as need to earn jointly 40k to afford mortgage well above average wages here do rich people from outside
pembs ect but them for kids as a way around 2nd homes... just wasted lots money building 29 social housing for locals here in st davids? A place where no one wants to live 16mls from haverfordwest...and only 6 locals given property and most those wasn't entitled to one off
the council..... normally they go to migrants from Birmingham if stories are to be believed.

Thanks for the info I've just applied for one myself.If no one wants to live there I must stand a chance.It sounds good.

New affordable to rent homes in St Davids coming soon

We are excited to announce that our brand new homes on the development at Glasfryn Road in St Davids, are coming to the ChoiceHomes@Pembrokeshire website soon!
If you aren’t on the Housing Register already you still have a little time to apply. The quickest way to do this is to 1. download, 2. complete the form and 3. email back to housingapplications@atebgroup.co.uk

A promise was given to the local community that when these new homes are first let, priority would be given to people who need a home from within the local community.

Our local letting scheme delivers this promise, giving priority to those living in St Davids and Cathedral Close, Solva and the Parish of Llanrhian.

We pride ourselves on working with the local community when planning our developments and can’t wait to see these homes let.

For more information please download our St Davids leaflet.

Was finished in February/ March.... they gave 2 flats to two children who did not fill the criteria for having one but it looked good on their propaganda they also moved out people from another block flats here so that more could be lived .... took several attempts before most were let out.... reason people dont want come here is isolation we are 30 mins from town with 2hr bus service from 8am to 6pm no sundays or BH ..... Had they been in Milford or haverfordwest they would been gone in one day...... they've stuck estate literally in between development of houses worth 350k+ each..... anyway as said drakeford as not got a clue how to solve local housing issues even though him gethin and Morgan have connections with this area... they're so interested in us they voted to close local general hospital in favour of carmarthen 46miles from me...
Ps local community objected vociferously to the development so much so developer refused to build a swimming pool for locals in response to their continuing efforts to block the housing... that's not in their brochure..

Looks as it I,m coming down your way.I've got asthma.The sea air will do me the world of good.
As of a matter of interest did they manage to sell the £350k houses if as you say no one wants to live there.

Looks as it I,m coming down your way.I've got asthma.The sea air will do me the world of good.
As of a matter of interest did they manage to sell the £350k houses if as you say no one wants to live there.

Housings matters in Wales are for the Local County council.In my part of the world builders have paid off the local council to avoid building social housing on Private housing sites.It's legal to.If you've got a problem with that take the matter up with your local planning dept.

Looks as it I,m coming down your way.I've got asthma.The sea air will do me the world of good.
As of a matter of interest did they manage to sell the £350k houses if as you say no one wants to live there.

Housings matters in Wales are for the Local County council.In my part of the world builders have paid off the local council to avoid building social housing on Private housing sites.It's legal to.If you've got a problem with that take the matter up with your local planning dept.

Good god they went long before social housing was let out and they are building 24 that are more expensive than that upto 600k ...
As said before on other threads st David's is an extremely desirable place to live but not for social housing....... the landscape is shifting people who rented out their 2nd home are now spending thousands to make them permanent homes all thanks to lockdown and working from home .... what WG is doing will not effect local housing one bit because putting it simply minimum wage wont buy you a £250k anywhere in UK never mind west Wales... hence say drakeford ect are clueless when comes to problem of local homes for local people he can tax to high heaven anyone he wants it wont give him any homes for locals.... just looks good to rest of Wales's electorate...
Ps the ones who complain about 2nd homes are the very people who are actually fuelling them when they sell their homes for market prices well above what local people can afford. Ironic really.

Looks as it I,m coming down your way.I've got asthma.The sea air will do me the world of good.
As of a matter of interest did they manage to sell the £350k houses if as you say no one wants to live there.

Housings matters in Wales are for the Local County council.In my part of the world builders have paid off the local council to avoid building social housing on Private housing sites.It's legal to.If you've got a problem with that take the matter up with your local planning dept.

Good god they went long before social housing was let out and they are building 24 that are more expensive than that upto 600k ...
As said before on other threads st David's is an extremely desirable place to live but not for social housing....... the landscape is shifting people who rented out their 2nd home are now spending thousands to make them permanent homes all thanks to lockdown and working from home .... what WG is doing will not effect local housing one bit because putting it simply minimum wage wont buy you a £250k anywhere in UK never mind west Wales... hence say drakeford ect are clueless when comes to problem of local homes for local people he can tax to high heaven anyone he wants it wont give him any homes for locals.... just looks good to rest of Wales's electorate...
Ps the ones who complain about 2nd homes are the very people who are actually fuelling them when they sell their homes for market prices well above what local people can afford. Ironic really.

Oh well. Seriously I have applied for one.I have to get a report off the doctor.if I get one perhaps we can car share to the games.

Looks as it I,m coming down your way.I've got asthma.The sea air will do me the world of good.
As of a matter of interest did they manage to sell the £350k houses if as you say no one wants to live there.

Housings matters in Wales are for the Local County council.In my part of the world builders have paid off the local council to avoid building social housing on Private housing sites.It's legal to.If you've got a problem with that take the matter up with your local planning dept.

Good god they went long before social housing was let out and they are building 24 that are more expensive than that upto 600k ...
As said before on other threads st David's is an extremely desirable place to live but not for social housing....... the landscape is shifting people who rented out their 2nd home are now spending thousands to make them permanent homes all thanks to lockdown and working from home .... what WG is doing will not effect local housing one bit because putting it simply minimum wage wont buy you a £250k anywhere in UK never mind west Wales... hence say drakeford ect are clueless when comes to problem of local homes for local people he can tax to high heaven anyone he wants it wont give him any homes for locals.... just looks good to rest of Wales's electorate...
Ps the ones who complain about 2nd homes are the very people who are actually fuelling them when they sell their homes for market prices well above what local people can afford. Ironic really.

Oh well. Seriously I have applied for one.I have to get a report off the doctor.if I get one perhaps we can car share to the games.

Yes no problem sharing .... why are you coming here besides fresh air?

Not much to do down there bar a walk or pop to a pub…..if you have a boat that’s another option mind. Tried living down there but it’s just not for me, too quiet….. if you have health concerns I’d be wary of moving west, there’s only one hospital, in Haverfordwest and it’s a shocker. I’d sooner drive back here than ever go there again.

Not much to do down there bar a walk or pop to a pub…..if you have a boat that’s another option mind. Tried living down there but it’s just not for me, too quiet….. if you have health concerns I’d be wary of moving west, there’s only one hospital, in Haverfordwest and it’s a shocker. I’d sooner drive back here than ever go there again.

Lots people move here to live and have better work/life balance..... yes hopsita not best but then look who's been in charge of local health psdt 20yrs drakeford gethin and Morgan all health ministers and all local AMs..... the same 3 that voted to close services down and move them to a hospital 25miles away that is far worse than withybush ! The neglect by WG in west Wales is enormous from railways busses health and communication all lag behind even north Wales in funding... but would not move back to Cardiff where the ruling labour party is destroying the city slowly with their idiotic ideas on transport and building monstrosities instead of a bus station nice to see they've got priorities right...

Work life balance? People in Pembrokeshire dont want to work hence the “Pembrokeshire promise”. I work with trades every week it’s easier for me to get the ones I know from Cardiff to come down to do a job than wait these days, I won’t get ripped off and it’s done properly. looking to get the house te-rendered last September I’m still waiting for one bloke to get back to me now…absolute jokers they are.

Work life balance? People in Pembrokeshire dont want to work hence the “Pembrokeshire promise”. I work with trades every week it’s easier for me to get the ones I know from Cardiff to come down to do a job than wait these days, I won’t get ripped off and it’s done properly. looking to get the house te-rendered last September I’m still waiting for one bloke to get back to me now…absolute jokers they are.

Yes the pembrokeshire promise bit like the french and Spanish ones.... can be frustrating getting anyone to come as promised....... but who said life was easy anywhere? Stil waiting for the builder to finish some rendering of my own 3 yes ago.

Work life balance? People in Pembrokeshire dont want to work hence the “Pembrokeshire promise”. I work with trades every week it’s easier for me to get the ones I know from Cardiff to come down to do a job than wait these days, I won’t get ripped off and it’s done properly. looking to get the house te-rendered last September I’m still waiting for one bloke to get back to me now…absolute jokers they are.

Same here in Cwmbran. Been trying to get a plasterer to do two rooms since February. Some of the excuses for not turning up. Dropped phone in plaster. Tennis elbow and the best going to Kilimanjaro base camp. Will contact you when I get back.

Thanks for the info.
A@E is where I live in Cwmbran.
I've been rough with my asthma for a month. Friday night was tough.
Saturday morning.
9am ring 111.Got cut off after 30 minutes. Ring again 45 minutes wait. Speak to an advisor.She takes all my details.90 minutes later get a call another advisor. Takes more info. A while later Doctor rings. Can you wait to see your GP on Monday. No. Can you come to Nevill Hall Abergavenny. Yes. 40 minute drive. Must say he was on the ball. I get a script. Back to Boots. There's an hour wait. Got my meds at 5pm.

Going backwards again gp surgery closed to visitors fone only... but I refuse to do consultation over fone... drakeford as had brain storm he believes we should have a central medical hub 16miles from here where we can access gp and other medical services! If of course can get there brainless is an understatement for WG health care plan in west Wales... may as well close health services down as no one can access them unless you drive..

Going backwards again gp surgery closed to visitors fone only... but I refuse to do consultation over fone... drakeford as had brain storm he believes we should have a central medical hub 16miles from here where we can access gp and other medical services! If of course can get there brainless is an understatement for WG health care plan in west Wales... may as well close health services down as no one can access them unless you drive..

This kind of thing is happening all over the UK.

I think the answer largely lies in the implementation of the policy of 'Decarbonising the NHS' which has not been widely revealed to the public at large.

This goes hand in hand with the digitalisation of Govt Services and Net Zero.

Going backwards again gp surgery closed to visitors fone only... but I refuse to do consultation over fone... drakeford as had brain storm he believes we should have a central medical hub 16miles from here where we can access gp and other medical services! If of course can get there brainless is an understatement for WG health care plan in west Wales... may as well close health services down as no one can access them unless you drive..

This kind of thing is happening all over the UK.

I think the answer largely lies in the implementation of the policy of 'Decarbonising the NHS' which has not been widely revealed to the public at large.

This goes hand in hand with the digitalisation of Govt Services and Net Zero.

Is that the digitisation that cost billions but computers dont talk to each other? Not sure how can decarbonise nhs when your forcing people to drive for health services? Dont mention public transport as doesn't exist....

Work life balance? People in Pembrokeshire dont want to work hence the “Pembrokeshire promise”. I work with trades every week it’s easier for me to get the ones I know from Cardiff to come down to do a job than wait these days, I won’t get ripped off and it’s done properly. looking to get the house te-rendered last September I’m still waiting for one bloke to get back to me now…absolute jokers they are.

Yes the pembrokeshire promise bit like the french and Spanish ones.... can be frustrating getting anyone to come as promised....... but who said life was easy anywhere? Stil waiting for the builder to finish some rendering of my own 3 yes ago.

If you know a decent builder or Renderer down there let me know