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Millwall splashing out.

Postby barnet blue » Sat Jul 02, 2022 11:16 am

Millwall splashing out. 1.7m for a Dutch player and another offer of 1.5m for another player.
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Postby Barclay1 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:48 pm

Something I have called out.

CCFC should have money available, excluding wages, agents fees etc, which every club has to pay irrespective of whether the transfer is a freebie or not.

Im amazed you haven't had comments about FFP, or 'Doing a Derby' from the chosen few.

There is money for TRANSFER FEES and if there is not how come other clubs that have not had our riches, and could be classed as unfashionable, are able to buy some quality?

Yes, we have squandered on a good few signings, but in reality, in the last 3 seasons inc this one, Kieffer Moore is the only player we have really spent any transfer fee on.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby pembroke allan » Sat Jul 02, 2022 5:59 pm

Could be a waste of 1.5m + other player could be waste of money? All well and good paying money for a player but until they play dont know what they're like? .....morison slated for getting in unknown players what's the difference???? Paying "MONEY" does not mean a player is better than a free agent
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby Barclay1 » Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:17 pm

Respectfully I disagree.

I think if you are forced to pay a fee you have a higher chance of getting a better player with quality and experience.

Not necessarily all the time of course, but players who command a fee are more likely to be ones who's clubs want to keep them because they can do a job.

If we pay money for a player that has been properly scouted, I expect a lot more than from a freebie that has been properly scouted
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby pembroke allan » Sat Jul 02, 2022 7:59 pm

Always thought paying small amounts for a foreign player is risky buisness.... but fair play if got the money why not spend it? Regarding city and lack of spending I'm not particularly bothered because in reality we have no idea what the new players will do same if payed millions for the 8 players we've brought in... it is what it is and tbh got far more things to worry about than how much club as not spent? Hopefully be pleasantly surprised by team especially as several more players to come in... what does worry me is lack of striker at this time hopefully be addressed before start season.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby MoodyBluebird » Sun Jul 03, 2022 12:57 am

To be honest, you're not going to get a top of the range striker for £1.7 million, probably not that much for £5 million either, so in this instance I think we are better off trying to get a couple of decent loanees from the PL.

I can't believe that SM would bolster our midfield like he has and not have plans in place to bring in a couple of strikers. Time will tell.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby llan bluebird » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:29 am

The environment has changed; players are looking after themselves by running contracts down, whereas pre covid they would have been sold earlier.

A top player from L1 would have cost 1-2 million, now you just sign them. However well run Forest Green Rovers are I doubt they could match our wage structure, so couldn't have offered Ebo Adams a better salary 12 months ago. Adams is now in the championship, he is in the shop window and if he does well his agent will push us for an extension and pay raise.

Transfers are the preserve of the spoilt for at least another season. The big clubs that must have it now, those with excess money.

Its a weird market, the million-dollar question is are all the free transfers a blip or how the non-premier league clubs will do business going forward.

There are two options IMO at the moment.

1- Sign players to a system, to maximise your teams' performance like we are doing

2- Buy young players to sell on to a bigger club with money like Swansea. It's called pin hooking in horse racing. We all remember their excellent signings but they have had a lot of duffers as well.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Jul 03, 2022 8:55 am

llan bluebird wrote:The environment has changed; players are looking after themselves by running contracts down, whereas pre covid they would have been sold earlier.

A top player from L1 would have cost 1-2 million, now you just sign them. However well run Forest Green Rovers are I doubt they could match our wage structure, so couldn't have offered Ebo Adams a better salary 12 months ago. Adams is now in the championship, he is in the shop window and if he does well his agent will push us for an extension and pay raise.

Transfers are the preserve of the spoilt for at least another season. The big clubs that must have it now, those with excess money.

Its a weird market, the million-dollar question is are all the free transfers a blip or how the non-premier league clubs will do business going forward.

There are two options IMO at the moment.

1- Sign players to a system, to maximise your teams' performance like we are doing

2- Buy young players to sell on to a bigger club with money like Swansea. It's called pin hooking in horse racing. We all remember their excellent signings but they have had a lot of duffers as well.



The advantage for players letting their contract run out is they will get bigger choice of clubs willing to sign them than if club had to pay fee? And of course they get signing on fee.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby Barclay1 » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:14 am

A reply well made and with much merit.

Would you suggest footballers are now moving to a point where running down a contract for that purpose is now more the norm?

If so, would this help or hinder clubs outside the Premier or top two leagues?
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby Sneggyblubird » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:17 am

Also depends on the manager you've got. Didn't this fella splash out when he was managing Derby. Not always the key to success.
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Re: Millwall splashing out.

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Jul 03, 2022 9:58 am

Barclay1 wrote:A reply well made and with much merit.

Would you suggest footballers are now moving to a point where running down a contract for that purpose is now more the norm?

If so, would this help or hinder clubs outside the Premier or top two leagues?




Running down contracts appears to be getting more the norm as if you notice players being sold when only got one year left on contract even when clubs don't want to sell.... think running down contracts is agent led as the benefits to players are better than for not getting anything for being transferred .... so the difference in quality between paying for a player as apposed to paying signing on fee are minimal .... just depends if clubs are willing to pay enough signing on fee along with wages.... it will benefit teams outside premier league as any signing on fee is generally paid over length of contract so reducing upfront costs significantly.
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