Mon May 30, 2022 12:05 pm
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Mon May 30, 2022 12:34 pm
OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:I get it’s all about fitness and bedding in the new players and style of play but…. Shouldn’t we be looking to play 1 or 2 higher quality teams too?
Mon May 30, 2022 12:44 pm
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Forever Blue wrote:My problem with these fixtures, we do need 2 tough competitive games as last time our friendlies made players like James Collins look good etc and then Media Wales hype the players up big time and then when we do play Championship clubs we then see players like Collins are league 1 / 2 players.
Of course you have the usual get fit games, but you then need a couple of tough games.
Mon May 30, 2022 3:06 pm
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Mon May 30, 2022 4:02 pm
Mon May 30, 2022 4:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:My problem with these fixtures, we do need 2 tough competitive games as last time our friendlies made players like James Collins look good etc and then Media Wales hype the players up big time and then when we do play Championship clubs we then see players like Collins are league 1 / 2 players.
Of course you have the usual get fit games, but you then need a couple of tough games.
Mon May 30, 2022 4:12 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:My problem with these fixtures, we do need 2 tough competitive games as last time our friendlies made players like James Collins look good etc and then Media Wales hype the players up big time and then when we do play Championship clubs we then see players like Collins are league 1 / 2 players.
Of course you have the usual get fit games, but you then need a couple of tough games.
I'm not sure I agree with this entirely.
Pre-season games are rarely competitive, and are generally about fitness and team cohesion only. In terms of ability, you should be doing that work before they even sign. If youre find out during pre season a player isn't up to it, something has gone terribly wrong along the recruitment process.
I'm just trying to think back to Neil Warnocks promotion season, I believe we had a far lower standard of opposition. Tavistock, Bodmin, St Austell, Plymouth, Bideford, and Shrewsbury?
That said, I do think its a good opportunity to get foreign clubs down and for the fans to have a nice, pre-season day ahead of the season to get excited.
Mon May 30, 2022 4:43 pm
Mon May 30, 2022 4:43 pm
caerblue wrote:Wow,pre season friendlies are to build fitness,simple as that,we could have arranged to play a premier league team,who might have played most of their youth squad,or we pick a division one side who will play a full strength side,who would be the stronger opposition then?,take the games for what they are
Mon May 30, 2022 4:46 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:Preparing the players for a lower league standard as I'm expecting it come end of the season with signings so far but we all have different opinions. Let's hope I'm wrong. People harp on about fitness and all that crap so it don't matter who we play. If that's the case play five games 1st vs under 23s because I can assure you when they cross that line its about winning not running about just to get fit
Cheltenham away
Mon May 30, 2022 4:49 pm
Mon May 30, 2022 5:19 pm
Sven wrote:caerblue wrote:Wow,pre season friendlies are to build fitness,simple as that,we could have arranged to play a premier league team,who might have played most of their youth squad,or we pick a division one side who will play a full strength side,who would be the stronger opposition then?,take the games for what they are
Gary, absolutely!![]()
We have just come through a tough season and now we have one of the shortest breaks ever (even worse for the international players)
This summer is about gelling a raft of new players and making sure they are fit to start the season
The quality of the proposed opposition is somewhat immaterial but I somehow feel we will get better indicators from a couple of teams who will want to be playing us rather than going through the motions
How we go about those games will be telling; and I've not seen a Steve Morison who will accept a lack of effort and commitment
Mon May 30, 2022 6:17 pm
OwainGlyndŵr123 wrote:Sven wrote:caerblue wrote:Wow,pre season friendlies are to build fitness,simple as that,we could have arranged to play a premier league team,who might have played most of their youth squad,or we pick a division one side who will play a full strength side,who would be the stronger opposition then?,take the games for what they are
Gary, absolutely!![]()
We have just come through a tough season and now we have one of the shortest breaks ever (even worse for the international players)
This summer is about gelling a raft of new players and making sure they are fit to start the season
The quality of the proposed opposition is somewhat immaterial but I somehow feel we will get better indicators from a couple of teams who will want to be playing us rather than going through the motions
How we go about those games will be telling; and I've not seen a Steve Morison who will accept a lack of effort and commitment
I know what you guys are saying and you have a point about just building match fitness. I have no problem playing lower league opposition but to not have a team on our level or a level above isn’t the best preparation for my liking. I just feel we would be better prepared for a tough championship season by playing tougher opposition for 1 or 2 of the games along with the lower league opposition. We shall see come start of the season
Mon May 30, 2022 7:42 pm
Mon May 30, 2022 8:13 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:My problem with these fixtures, we do need 2 tough competitive games as last time our friendlies made players like James Collins look good etc and then Media Wales hype the players up big time and then when we do play Championship clubs we then see players like Collins are league 1 / 2 players.
Of course you have the usual get fit games, but you then need a couple of tough games.
I'm not sure I agree with this entirely.
Pre-season games are rarely competitive, and are generally about fitness and team cohesion only. In terms of ability, you should be doing that work before they even sign. If youre find out during pre season a player isn't up to it, something has gone terribly wrong along the recruitment process.
I'm just trying to think back to Neil Warnocks promotion season, I believe we had a far lower standard of opposition. Tavistock, Bodmin, St Austell, Plymouth, Bideford, and Shrewsbury?
That said, I do think its a good opportunity to get foreign clubs down and for the fans to have a nice, pre-season day ahead of the season to get excited.
Mon May 30, 2022 8:35 pm
Mon May 30, 2022 8:58 pm
HarriRhys22 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:My problem with these fixtures, we do need 2 tough competitive games as last time our friendlies made players like James Collins look good etc and then Media Wales hype the players up big time and then when we do play Championship clubs we then see players like Collins are league 1 / 2 players.
Of course you have the usual get fit games, but you then need a couple of tough games.
I'm not sure I agree with this entirely.
Pre-season games are rarely competitive, and are generally about fitness and team cohesion only. In terms of ability, you should be doing that work before they even sign. If youre find out during pre season a player isn't up to it, something has gone terribly wrong along the recruitment process.
I'm just trying to think back to Neil Warnocks promotion season, I believe we had a far lower standard of opposition. Tavistock, Bodmin, St Austell, Plymouth, Bideford, and Shrewsbury?
That said, I do think its a good opportunity to get foreign clubs down and for the fans to have a nice, pre-season day ahead of the season to get excited.
Don’t forget Taff Wells!
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