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“ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 8:31 am

FOR ONCE I AGREE WITH GLEN WILLIAMS / MORE HONESTY LIKE THIS.


Cardiff's quartet of Max Watters, Mark Harris, James Collins and Isaak Davies have precious few goals in the bank in a blue shirt.

They have just 14 goals in a combined 128 appearances


It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need goals in this squad for the start of the season. One look at the players in situ at the minute shows just how few goals there actually are in this current group.


By Glen Williams (junior reporter)

Cardiff had Kieffer Moore and missed him last season, he will be hard to replace.

The Bluebirds lost Kieffer Moore in January, with the Wales striker proving his worth at the end of the season with Bournemouth, scoring four goals in three games for the Cherries as he secured them automatic promotion back to the Premier League.





Other areas of the squad need surgery, too, central midfield needs a few more experienced and quality players, make no mistake about that. But the importance of having a real goalscorer will make all the difference. Cardiff were crying out for a player to find the back of the net for a decade or so, since the days of Jay Bothroyd, Ross McCormack and Michael Chopra, until they found Moore, they cannot wait that long again.

The recruitment in that department has to be spot on.

Take Swansea City just down the road, for example, a £1million outlay on Joel Piroe paid dividends, with the Dutchman netting 24 times in all competitions for Russell Martin, who, it is said, now values the player at somewhere between £10m and £20m.



While Jordan Hugill and Uche Ikpeazu were both signed on loan by Cardiff in January, both of whom did solid jobs during their stay in the Welsh capital, neither of them looked to be out-and-out goalscorers. No doubt Morison and his recruitment team will be scouring their network to find the best goalscorer, or two, to fit into and complement the system they have designs on implementing in earnest next season.




Because if you look at the four forwards currently at the club, a problem quickly leaps out at you. While three of the four are still relatively Championship rookies, Cardiff's quartet of Max Watters, Mark Harris, James Collins and Isaak Davies have precious few goals in the bank in a blue shirt.

They have just 14 goals in a combined 128 appearances — the breakdown is as follows; Collins three in 30 games, Davies three in 30 games, Harris seven in 57 games and Watters one in 11 games — and everyone is in agreeance that ratio simply has to be better if Cardiff are going to make a better fist of it next term.

It was hoped Collins would have contributed more, considering his past record in the Football League. Given he was bombed out of the squad all together after the January window, you have to wonder what his future holds heading into the off-season.

Davies looks as though he could be more dangerous in a wide area, and it wouldn't be a surprise if he featured more as a winger next season with Morison hoping to be more flexible with his formations. Similarly with Harris, too, Cardiff are certainly expecting a better goal output if they give him the opportunity next season.
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Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 8:33 am

Cardiff's quartet of Max Watters, Mark Harris, James Collins and Isaak Davies have precious few goals in the bank in a blue shirt.

They have just 14 goals in a combined 128 appearances — the breakdown is as follows; Collins three in 30 games, Davies three in 30 games, Harris seven in 57 games and Watters one in 11 games — and everyone is in agreeance that ratio simply has to be better if Cardiff are going to make a better fist of it next term.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby BLUEBIRD » Wed May 25, 2022 8:50 am

I’d get rid of all of them sending Davies out on loan to a Div 1 team and get other 3 off payroll
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby WenvoeBluebird » Wed May 25, 2022 9:18 am

Agree! I think Harris ,Watters and Collins get far too much sympathy. Just not good enough for championship level
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby jimmy_rat » Wed May 25, 2022 9:21 am

BLUEBIRD wrote:I’d get rid of all of them sending Davies out on loan to a Div 1 team and get other 3 off payroll


All good if we get 4 better in to replace them!! Im sure we're trying but easier said than done.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby piledriver64 » Wed May 25, 2022 9:22 am

Yes it is abundantly clear that striker is the area we need to prioritise.

Unfortunately, I think this is the one we'll have to be most patient on.

To get a really good quality striker at this level you're talking £5m+ and that simply isn't going to happen. Therefore we have to look at the Prem loan market and this season that's going to be lively right at the end of August when clubs, and players, know what squads they are likely to go with. We may get back-ups in place but big signings may go right up to the wire.

The Jacks have had people like Tammy Abrahams and Brewster in the past so it can be done we just need to be proactive and patient.

We'll see what happens but this is certainly a key area for us to address.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby pipster » Wed May 25, 2022 9:50 am

I think it's always been the case - you have to take a gamble with out and out goal scorers. If a championship team has one they wont sell. If a League 1 /2 team has one you have to take a gamble they are championship level , a premier league striker may want stupid wages - so thats a non starter - or you go overseas and end up Andreas Cornellius - and we all now how that ended up.

The only way - other than home grown - is find one from the lower leagues and hope they can hack it.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 10:13 am

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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 10:18 am

jimmy_rat wrote:
BLUEBIRD wrote:I’d get rid of all of them sending Davies out on loan to a Div 1 team and get other 3 off payroll


All good if we get 4 better in to replace them!! Im sure we're trying but easier said than done.



If we don’t then it’s league 1 here we come, would rather be straight & honest.

The facts are their about them all, we keep them because they are cheap, not because they are good enough.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby pontlliwblue » Wed May 25, 2022 10:39 am

Here's hoping that the new blood being bought in will create far more chances than the stale midfield of the last few seasons. Even then I agree we need to buy or lend a young hungry player, but also feel watters in particular has more in him than we've seen so far. Rhys Healey anyone?
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Llantwit bluebird » Wed May 25, 2022 11:16 am

In all honesty there has been an issue with creating chances and supply in recent years where even good strikers have struggled. With quality support even average strikers will score loads.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 11:32 am

Llantwit bluebird wrote:In all honesty there has been an issue with creating chances and supply in recent years where even good strikers have struggled. With quality support even average strikers will score loads.



Just over a year ago Kieffer Moore scored 20 goals for us, not that long ago .

We need quality strikers.

Plus wingers to deliver the ball.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Sneggyblubird » Wed May 25, 2022 12:20 pm

Llantwit bluebird wrote:In all honesty there has been an issue with creating chances and supply in recent years where even good strikers have struggled. With quality support even average strikers will score loads.


It's a good point. We struggled last season because we had no wide men up the pitch and even Kieffer struggled before he left. If we don't land that Rotherham striker we may have to go with what we got. You have to hope the Gaffers style will suit them or we will struggle but I'm optimistic. He seems to be concentrating on midfield at the moment and me like most others know we need wholesale changes to the squad there.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 12:49 pm

More by Glen Williams:


It's a problem and one that needs to be solved before the window closes, that's for sure. Cardiff need goals. They might need to be creative to get them, but they definitely need someone to fill the sizeable shoes left by Kieffer Moore next season, that is an absolute certainty.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby montyblue » Wed May 25, 2022 3:15 pm

Mid field has been dire
since gunarsson and camarasse both left
vaulks is not the answer please even as a squad player bala town standard.
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Tuggi » Thu May 26, 2022 7:11 pm

Let’s keep it grounded, when there was no creative spark (Wilson) Moore had just as poor a strike rate as Hugill.

22 games - 5 goals Moore
18 games - 4 goals Hugill

Not saying we don’t need a goal scorer, we definitely do, but we also need a supply
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Re: “ It is glaringly clear that Cardiff need”

Postby Forever Blue » Thu May 26, 2022 7:19 pm

Tuggi wrote:Let’s keep it grounded, when there was no creative spark (Wilson) Moore had just as poor a strike rate as Hugill.

22 games - 5 goals Moore
18 games - 4 goals Hugill

Not saying we don’t need a goal scorer, we definitely do, but we also need a supply


Hugil 31 games / 4 goals Norwich.
21 games / 1 goal WBA



As to Kieffer Moore their is so much to come out, internal politics beyond.

But I do agree we need a quality provider.
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