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Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:41 pm

Reading through some of the threads in regards to how poor we were today.
Were we really that poor? See, I don’t think so.

Nothing left to play for this season, apart from players playing for new contracts.

The finishing was poor, no doubt about that. But in terms of the playing style, you can see it’s evolving. It’s going to take a few months to drill into players, but the amount of times the ball was played on the deck today. Defenders being more comfortable playing it out from the back, and some good interplay in the midfield which laid a chance on a plate for Davies who should have scored.

It’s a massive plus seeing the ball being played on the floor, and the playing style evolving.
Get off the manager’s back!

Some good news filtering through I seen earlier in regards to the potential signings of Michael Hector and Jed Wallace. Both very good players at this level, who will only aid in the development of the playing style we are seeing.

Onwards and upwards!

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 5:58 pm

For some, it wouldn't matter if we had won 6-0

It will be 'the other team was crap', not how well we played

Trouble is, people are still comparing games before Steve Morison took over. Yes, we were pedestrian going forward but still had several opportunities to score; but like most of this season, we didn't take the chances when they came to us

I was a very typical end of season game but shouldn't have been

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:06 pm

I agree with your comments Allan.

Like you probably seen in my post, it’s going to take time for things to evolve and click. It won’t happen over night.
It’s going to take a few months, and the right personnel brought in to aid the playing style.

Big summer for Morison and his staff, we are about to see what they’re really capable of.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:15 pm

I didn't think we were that bad tbh, thought we played some decent stuff just lacked quality in final 3rd. We had a few clear cut chances that we should've scored.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:For some, it wouldn't matter if we had won 6-0

It will be 'the other team was crap', not how well we played

Trouble is, people are still comparing games before Steve Morison took over. Yes, we were pedestrian going forward but still had several opportunities to score; but like most of this season, we didn't take the chances when they came to us

I was a very typical end of season game but shouldn't have been



Well can anyone complain about his dealings in transfer window? Gives you hope that he can be as productive with a lot more players that's needed in summer... tge most important purchase is a Hfoward or 2 that suits way he wants to play .

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:25 pm

not that bad. Luton were average, shows what a poor league

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:27 pm

We dominated the game but we're crap in the final 1/3rd hugil and Davies should of scored

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:15 pm

wez1927 wrote:We dominated the game but we're crap in the final 1/3rd hugil and Davies should of scored


Yep, before Morison took over people were using the stats to demonstrate how poor we were.

We’ll I’m not much of a stats man but look at the stats of today and let those turning on Morison tell me we’re not changing for the better.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:22 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:We dominated the game but we're crap in the final 1/3rd hugil and Davies should of scored


Yep, before Morison took over people were using the stats to demonstrate how poor we were.

We’ll I’m not much of a stats man but look at the stats of today and let those turning on Morison tell me we’re not changing for the better.



They've improved especially the possession & passing stats... shooting particularly on target may not be what we want but can't have everything.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:30 pm

We must have learned loads today. I doubt we'll have Drameh next season but still have NG. Our midfield doesn't need a back 4 and 2 sitters then we have the biggest question, do we need target men ?

I haven't changed my opinion that Morison is incredibly lucky to have such a prestigious job with so little experience but i could see real improvement.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:55 pm

Followed the game on Talk Sport who said we were dreadful…start to finish and Luton looked like the only team who looked like scoring.
Said city have to rebuild completely.
Very critical of the lack of quality ….

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:40 pm

Blueman39 wrote:Followed the game on Talk Sport who said we were dreadful…start to finish and Luton looked like the only team who looked like scoring.
Said city have to rebuild completely.
Very critical of the lack of quality ….


They must have heared about our seven players out contract then?

Sorry, but Luton was not the only team that looked like scoring and I'm not sure they actually had a clear chance to score compared to City's three; particularly Hugill's one on one

Their goal was a strange goal in respect of the ball looked to come off the back of his head. There was nothing in the game and draw would have been the fairer result

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:02 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Blueman39 wrote:Followed the game on Talk Sport who said we were dreadful…start to finish and Luton looked like the only team who looked like scoring.
Said city have to rebuild completely.
Very critical of the lack of quality ….


They must have heared about our seven players out contract then?

Sorry, but Luton was not the only team that looked like scoring and I'm not sure they actually had a clear chance to score compared to City's three; particularly Hugill's one on one

Their goal was a strange goal in respect of the ball looked to come off the back of his head. There was nothing in the game and draw would have been the fairer result


I’d rather judge by what I saw with my own eyes rather than a clearly biased radio commentary.

There is no way Luton were the only team that looked like scoring. We created a number of chances and certainly Hugill and Davies should have put theirs away.

Just look at the stats. We had vastly more possession, more shots, same number of shots on target and more corners.

If that’s a team never looking like winning/scoring then football is clearly something I know little about !!

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:14 am

The truth is it was boring and we were playing an injury hit Luton Town side on a very small budget.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:58 am

We played the fourth best team in the League and had more shots 13 to 10, more corners 9 to 4 and more possession 63% to 37%, we were unlucky not to come away with at least a draw, only a few months ago we were dropping like a stone into a relegation battle, no it wasn't that bad!

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:27 am

Forever Blue wrote:The truth is it was boring and we were playing an injury hit Luton Town side on a very small budget.


I've got to say I found it quite entertaining. It was broken up with all the injuries and then Luton took time wasting/game management to a new level once they scored but when the ball was actually in play some of the passing and moving was as good as I've seen from us for years. We also broke from their attacks a few times very effectively which we've been lacking for a couple of seasons.

Interestingly, I took a mate down who hadn't been since the Mackay/OGS season as he's been working abroad and his comment was that it was the best football he'd seen a City team since the Dave Jones era !!

The worry is that many will never forgive Morison for the Swansea debacle. But take that game out of the equation and things are actually looking pretty good on the pitch in readiness for next season.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:20 am

piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:The truth is it was boring and we were playing an injury hit Luton Town side on a very small budget.


I've got to say I found it quite entertaining. It was broken up with all the injuries and then Luton took time wasting/game management to a new level once they scored but when the ball was actually in play some of the passing and moving was as good as I've seen from us for years. We also broke from their attacks a few times very effectively which we've been lacking for a couple of seasons.

Interestingly, I took a mate down who hadn't been since the Mackay/OGS season as he's been working abroad and his comment was that it was the best football he'd seen a City team since the Dave Jones era !!

The worry is that many will never forgive Morison for the Swansea debacle. But take that game out of the equation and things are actually looking pretty good on the pitch in readiness for next season.




We are all allowed our different opinions , but for me the truth is there by how empty the stadium was.
We shall see how the stadium looks for Birmingham City home.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:40 pm

I didn't go due to health issues, so I watched on the red button, and while I was surprised with how many empty seats, you can sort of understand, nothing to play for, so people probably did family things with it being bank holiday and the weather was good, which doesn't usually happen on a bank holiday. If there was something riding on this game more fans would have turned up.

Re: Today’s performance, was it really that bad?

Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:The truth is it was boring and we were playing an injury hit Luton Town side on a very small budget.


I've got to say I found it quite entertaining. It was broken up with all the injuries and then Luton took time wasting/game management to a new level once they scored but when the ball was actually in play some of the passing and moving was as good as I've seen from us for years. We also broke from their attacks a few times very effectively which we've been lacking for a couple of seasons.

Interestingly, I took a mate down who hadn't been since the Mackay/OGS season as he's been working abroad and his comment was that it was the best football he'd seen a City team since the Dave Jones era !!

The worry is that many will never forgive Morison for the Swansea debacle. But take that game out of the equation and things are actually looking pretty good on the pitch in readiness for next season.




We are all allowed our different opinions , but for me the truth is there by how empty the stadium was.
We shall see how the stadium looks for Birmingham City home.


Absolutely agree on everyone having different opinions. Many rave about Man City playing football but I find that about as exciting as watching paint dry :lol: I'd rather the more dynamic play of Liverpool but everyone wants something different.

What I would say is that we're all going to have to get used to a more possession based game under Morison. A lot of our crowd don't like that.

At one point in the 2nd half we were probing back and forth around the half way line but moving the ball quickly and retaining possession. There were plenty of cries of "get it forward" from the crowd where they just weren't watching how we were dragging Luton out of position :banghead: . Then, after about another 20 uninterrupted passes, we created an opening down the flank, ball went in the area and created a really good chance. That's the way to play against really organised teams.

Similarly, in about the 90th minute there was a big cheer from a large part of the crowd when Vaulks finally took a long throw :roll: Surprise, surprise nothing came of it as Luton had more six footers than NBA team :roll: :lol: :lol:

I think it's going to take longer to change some of our fans approaches than it is to change the players but Morison does seem pretty committed to the way he wants us to play so I just hope that he has the courage to stick with it.