Half The Squad OUT And Morison OUT

We need a total overhaul, half a new squad and definitely a new manager, he isn't the answer.

Oh come on mate ffs!!! Why don't you go over to planet swans. Have you ever been happy with any manager??

We need a total overhaul, half a new squad and definitely a new manager, he isn't the answer.

Have a word with yourself, you absolute melt!

Without Morisons intervention and the players he brought in January, we’d be on a one way ticket heading to league one.
Give your head a wobble!

The only thing the board did that was any good was commit to Morison early enough to allow him to make plans for the summer.

Nearly all the players leaving are Warnocks, so it will be an end of an era.

I have no idea why a top 40 UK club felt the need to give the full time permanent job is a total rookie with no real attachment to CCFC, but we did. If we are to sack him I'd wait to December.

I'm entitled to an opinion and I also respect all yours, I however, do not think that Morison is the man to take us to the next level.

He has done an ok job admittedly, but if we are even thinking of a play off place next year or even promotion then I don't think he has the know how to get us there.

I'll support him whilst he is in charge, the same as any other manager that I have over the last 34 years, but like I said I'm entitled my opinion and just don't think he is the man for the job

Morison has done a great job in keeping us well clear of relegation and will have done so even if we lose every remaining game.

SM will rightly now be judged on next season.

I'm entitled to an opinion and I also respect all yours, I however, do not think that Morison is the man to take us to the next level.

He has done an ok job admittedly, but if we are even thinking of a play off place next year or even promotion then I don't think he has the know how to get us there.

I'll support him whilst he is in charge, the same as any other manager that I have over the last 34 years, but like I said I'm entitled my opinion and just don't think he is the man for the job

You are entitled to your opinion ok but now tell us why and how you've come to this conclusion. I actually think the opposite. I'm waiting for some of the naysayers to give valid reasons without relying on worn out clichés.

The only thing the board did that was any good was commit to Morison early enough to allow him to make plans for the summer.

Nearly all the players leaving are Warnocks, so it will be an end of an era.

I have no idea why a top 40 UK club felt the need to give the full time permanent job is a total rookie with no real attachment to CCFC, but we did. If we are to sack him I'd wait to December.

You're not too bad a poster; but some of your posts baffle me beyond, including this one...

So you say (quote) "The only thing the board did that was any good was commit to Morison early enough to allow him to make plans for the summer", which is something (on a one year contract) I felt the majority were happy with

Then you state (quote) "Nearly all the players leaving are Warnocks", which indicates that (until January at least) he was working with what he had; not with what he wanted so he hasn't done too badly, has he?

Then you compound it all by stating (quote): "I have no idea why a top 40 UK club felt the need to give the full time permanent job to a total rookie with no real attachment to CCFC"

That's the more confusing bit to me for a number of reasons and I ask you...

Was he not an internal appointment, having come to the attention of the (so called) 'Committee' after doing such a sterling job with the U-23's?

Every manager has to start somewhere and, as subsequent events will back up, he appears to have earned the opportunity

Who was the last manager who had bigger, if any, links to our club before he took over?

Mick McCarthy? Uhm, no!

Neil Harris? Uhm, no; not unless you include a brief but rather unsuccessful time here on holiday from Millwall as a player

Neil Warnock? Uhm, no!

Paul Trollope? Hmmm, the smiling assassin was a coach and siezed his opportunity through stealth before departing quickly

Russell Slade? Uhm, no!

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer? Uhm, no!

Malky MacKay? Uhm, no!

Dave Jones? Uhm, no!

Do I need to go any further back; or have I made the point well?

Sven the beers had kicking in by then, let me explain, lets go through those managers credentials

Mick McCarthy- International manager, managed most of his career in the championship or above, had a reputation for direct football which should have suited our squad

Neil Harris - Promotion from L1 with Millwall,did ok next season, should have fitted our Warnock bought squad

Neil Warnock- no need to explain

Paul Trollope- A crazy one, experience from the Wales camp, had Welshness and the Euro's feel good factor

Russell Slade - Experienced lower league manager, almost a punishment appointment for the clubs mishandling of the finances.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - The best player amongst that lot, played under a brilliant club and international, manager had connections with Man u so loans may have helped us

Malky MacKay- 2 seasons in the championship before he arrived, can't remember who i wanted but it wasn't him

Dave Jones - Premier league manager, almost doing us a favour as all the off field stuff had stunted his career.

Now Steve Morison

Not really at a premier league level player, worked his way through from the very bottom, so not a household name like Ole.
Before his caretaker appointment had never managed a first team game like Trollope.
Has never won promotion like DJ,NW, NH & MM
He knew the club and the successful U23's who Annis keeps on reminding us play in the lower level not the elite and half that team are making a fist of it in the EFL, so he probably just had a better group than the others.

If we gave it to someone like Bellers who would also be in the rookie camp you could say he was a premier league player and played under many a good manager, he's also a local lad and has played for the club - I get that, I just don't with Steve Morison


Even though i think its was a lazy easy appointment, at least the board acted quickly enough for someone in the management team to be the leader of the recruitment process.
We couldn't have gone into the closed season without a manager or one who couldn't start until June. Hopefully he continues the recent good work of the recruitment team as we can easily replace managers but having a crap squad on 3 year deals will be painful.

Hope this explanation increases my poster reputation

Sven the beers had kicking in by then, let me explain, lets go through those managers credentials

Mick McCarthy- International manager, managed most of his career in the championship or above, had a reputation for direct football which should have suited our squad

Neil Harris - Promotion from L1 with Millwall,did ok next season, should have fitted our Warnock bought squad

Neil Warnock- no need to explain

Paul Trollope- A crazy one, experience from the Wales camp, had Welshness and the Euro's feel good factor

Russell Slade - Experienced lower league manager, almost a punishment appointment for the clubs mishandling of the finances.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - The best player amongst that lot, played under a brilliant club and international, manager had connections with Man u so loans may have helped us

Malky MacKay- 2 seasons in the championship before he arrived, can't remember who i wanted but it wasn't him

Dave Jones - Premier league manager, almost doing us a favour as all the off field stuff had stunted his career.

Now Steve Morison

Not really at a premier league level player, worked his way through from the very bottom, so not a household name like Ole.
Before his caretaker appointment had never managed a first team game like Trollope.
Has never won promotion like DJ,NW, NH & MM
He knew the club and the successful U23's who Annis keeps on reminding us play in the lower level not the elite and half that team are making a fist of it in the EFL, so he probably just had a better group than the others.

If we gave it to someone like Bellers who would also be in the rookie camp you could say he was a premier league player and played under many a good manager, he's also a local lad and has played for the club - I get that, I just don't with Steve Morison


Even though i think its was a lazy easy appointment, at least the board acted quickly enough for someone in the management team to be the leader of the recruitment process.
We couldn't have gone into the closed season without a manager or one who couldn't start until June. Hopefully he continues the recent good work of the recruitment team as we can easily replace managers but having a crap squad on 3 year deals will be painful.

Hope this explanation increases my poster reputation

Trouble with your argument is your using the credentials of our former managers to beat up our current one when you absolutely rinsed all these guys when they were our managers, can't have it both ways. Its fair to say Morisons having a crack at putting right the wrongs of our previous incumbents before he can start building his own side.Needs to given a chance.

Sneggy, I am just giving the rationale as to why i believe it was a strange appointment. We are not in administration and we have had two promotions in the last decade, we are not a small club.

Steve M is in the same category as Lampard, Rooney, Gerrard of having his first managers job in the championship (Scot prem roughly the same) that's one hell of group to be in , he may turn out to be better than all of them as its a different job from playing.

Football managers are like CEO's, they have a shelf life. Bielsa for me is a maverick genius but even he ran out of road.

But i did think about all our managers

Like nearly everyone i was against the Malky sacking.
DJ had run out of ideas and it was the right time, Warnock knew he had bought badly and his record extending promotion wasn't going to happen at Cardiff, so he left, he was never pushed.
Slade almost stopped me going it was that unadventurous
Harris was another Slade there to manage the finances until he was losing control then we had Mick who shouldn't have had an extension after he had done his job. It was dinosaur football.

I just want to see some originality of thought, i wanted someone who had done something, taken a small team up the ladder in whatever country, playing an attacking game.

Here is a thought, just imagine what would have happened this closed season if Mick hadn't pressed the hari Kari button and kept us mid table with another season on his contract...Imagine the players he would have bought...He sent Wintle out on loan and bought Collins !

I am one of 20K fans, I am all in on Steve because i have to be. I actually liked the thought of yesterday's game plan, it just
wasn't executed that well because we don't have those players, I get it, he got the job done and now is experimenting.

I am looking forward to next season, I have no idea what to expect because i still don't know what Steve is about.

So to reiterate I am not against Steve Morison !!! Just the process that got him here, but he is ours now.

Sven the beers had kicking in by then, let me explain, lets go through those managers credentials

Mick McCarthy- International manager, managed most of his career in the championship or above, had a reputation for direct football which should have suited our squad

Neil Harris - Promotion from L1 with Millwall,did ok next season, should have fitted our Warnock bought squad

Neil Warnock- no need to explain

Paul Trollope- A crazy one, experience from the Wales camp, had Welshness and the Euro's feel good factor

Russell Slade - Experienced lower league manager, almost a punishment appointment for the clubs mishandling of the finances.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - The best player amongst that lot, played under a brilliant club and international, manager had connections with Man u so loans may have helped us

Malky MacKay- 2 seasons in the championship before he arrived, can't remember who i wanted but it wasn't him

Dave Jones - Premier league manager, almost doing us a favour as all the off field stuff had stunted his career.

Now Steve Morison

Not really at a premier league level player, worked his way through from the very bottom, so not a household name like Ole.
Before his caretaker appointment had never managed a first team game like Trollope.
Has never won promotion like DJ,NW, NH & MM
He knew the club and the successful U23's who Annis keeps on reminding us play in the lower level not the elite and half that team are making a fist of it in the EFL, so he probably just had a better group than the others.

If we gave it to someone like Bellers who would also be in the rookie camp you could say he was a premier league player and played under many a good manager, he's also a local lad and has played for the club - I get that, I just don't with Steve Morison


Even though i think its was a lazy easy appointment, at least the board acted quickly enough for someone in the management team to be the leader of the recruitment process.
We couldn't have gone into the closed season without a manager or one who couldn't start until June. Hopefully he continues the recent good work of the recruitment team as we can easily replace managers but having a crap squad on 3 year deals will be painful.

Hope this explanation increases my poster reputation

Trouble with your argument is your using the credentials of our former managers to beat up our current one when you absolutely rinsed all these guys when they were our managers, can't have it both ways. Its fair to say Morisons having a crack at putting right the wrongs of our previous incumbents before he can start building his own side.Needs to given a chance.

Martin, spot on!

Personally, I think the Steve Morison appointment was brave rather than (quote Ilan bluebird) a "lazy appointment", as the Board now know they are on a hiding to nothing and Steve Morison was known to be doing a good job in his U-23 coaching role

As I've said elsewhere, ever manager has to start somewhere, including non-playing genius like Mourinho, and I know some of our support well enough to know that if Welsh international but London born Steve Morison was doing what he's doing for us at another club, they'd be screaming "sign him up...!"

I use Blaenrhondda born and Bluebird supporter, Nathan Jones as an example of that and there are others...

I'm entitled to an opinion and I also respect all yours, I however, do not think that Morison is the man to take us to the next level.

He has done an ok job admittedly, but if we are even thinking of a play off place next year or even promotion then I don't think he has the know how to get us there.

I'll support him whilst he is in charge, the same as any other manager that I have over the last 34 years, but like I said I'm entitled my opinion and just don't think he is the man for the job

We’re not going to any next level. We’re operating on a strict wage cap. The best we can hope for is that we bring up some youth team players with potential, play with more of a purpose, shape and urgency, score some good well worked goals, and don’t lose 11 home matches again. If we’re still crap at Christmas then sack him by all means.

I’m afraid I agree with Llan. Certainly not convinced by SM

Morrison Jan transfer window was good.. Kept us up with plenty to spare.. Changing style slowly with an inherited team that is incapable of playing fast. Flowing football.. Now he has a reduced budget to work with.. He ain't done bad in my eyes.. Give him a fighting chance. Let's see what he can do

Steve Morison is our best manager since Warnock. Before Steve too the job he was flying as our under 23 coach and he knows every youngster from the youth academy so if anyone from the academy is good enough then we fans will see it on the pitch. Half the squad aka the players who been here and not pulling their weight. Simples we need players who put there blood and sweat on the pitch for the badge, who tries every game for the club. We dont need players who are overpaid and only think of the money. Just look at McGuinness he came from the youth academy at Arsenal we brought him in for a few seasons and he tries harder than most.

We need a total overhaul, half a new squad and definitely a new manager, he isn't the answer.

I still stand by this comment, Morrison is taking us nowhere

Sam the advantage of knowing the u23s and better youth players evaporated by Christmas. A fresh pair of eyes would learn all they need to learn in a month.

I am encouraged by what SM was trying to do yesterday, and I do believe this is a free pre season to see what can happen. We caused over loads on the flanks from our passing, yes it’s risky and turnovers killed us but other than that it’s flinty to hugil all game, our issue was when we got the ball to the flanks we didn’t have players who you fancy in a one on one, so it was so easy for them to defend


For me we’re learned loads
Perry is a right back who can play left back or the outside of a three at the back occasionally but not a starter at the other position
Denham looks a better prospect than mcguiness
Rubin needs to play central
If we are playing like yesterday we need mobility not strength up top. Watters did more than hugil he just isn’t at championship level
The goalie isn’t up to much

I also believe there’ll be at least 10 clubs worse than us next season. We no longer have any big contract legacy players, we will have a lot of latitude in recruitment.
Whether Morison is the right man is and was a right punt in the dark, who knows.if he oversees a the recruitment of a balanced thought out squad and can’t get a tune out of them, someone else will