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Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:13 am
Finances, will it be a bit of a battle?
Steve Morison:
"It’s fine. I’m really comfortable with it. There are no grey areas.
It might go to the end, closer to the start of pre-season before you start seeing signings and stuff.
You’ve put markers out there, you’ve given figures you can pay and want to pay and they’ll be ringing around the other clubs seeing if they can get better elsewhere.
It’s a waiting game, because people will soon see the landscape of football has changed.
We want to be best of the rest (barring the top teams/relegated teams), I want people to be here and part of something successful.
The work we’ve done, the conversations, word of mouth, playing at Cardiff City Stadium, the training ground. You can only sell yourself as much as you can.
They are working hard putting presentations together, proving to people what we are doing and showing them why they should play for us.
Hopefully all the hard work will pay off when you start seeing people coming through the door."
Morison
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Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:16 am
Salary talks not presentations
You get what you pay for in most cases
Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:17 am
What do you want?
"Ambitious people, who are ambitious as us. They want to play for the club and play for me. People who have got that drive and willingness to succeed. You have to get the balance, people who know the level and what it’s like to play in the Championship."
"People are still trying to find their level like Tommy and Cody Drameh."
Morison
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Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:26 am
NIBluebird wrote:Salary talks not presentations
You get what you pay for in most cases
How much are we paying for Bacuna, Pack, Flint, Vassell, Morrison, Ralls etc? Money does not equal success necessarily. I doubt Huddersfield and Luton have huge wage bills but they are top 6. The Championship is broken financially and clubs have stop paying ludicrous sums of money to average journey men like those above. I am just glad we are still in with a shot at the big time whilst trying to be sustainable at the same time.
Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:46 am
i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of them are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:39 pm
bluebird04 wrote:i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of them are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
You've answered your own question the scouting is better now than under previous managers
Thu Apr 14, 2022 12:43 pm
wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of the
m are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
Also we are shopping for different kind of players from previous couple of managers so the pool of players is much bigger to choose from .
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
You've answered your own question the scouting is better now than under previous managers
Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:18 pm
wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of them are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
You've answered your own question the scouting is better now than under previous managers
we cannot say for certain though, we have had 1 good transfer window. the true test for me i think will be come the summer when he have to build a squad, if heaven forbid, it goes pear shape, we can't then claim, well it was an awful season, players werent good enough, but our scouting set up is better because of 1 decent window.
Thu Apr 14, 2022 1:35 pm
bluebird04 wrote:wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of them are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
You've answered your own question the scouting is better now than under previous managers
we cannot say for certain though, we have had 1 good transfer window. the true test for me i think will be come the summer when he have to build a squad, if heaven forbid, it goes pear shape, we can't then claim, well it was an awful season, players werent good enough, but our scouting set up is better because of 1 decent window.
One good transfer window at the first attempt and a decent season since (for the new manager) after many disappointing ones...
I'm not sure what your point is when you give little credit and appear very negative?
Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:01 pm
Sven wrote:bluebird04 wrote:wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:i'm not bothered by our wage limitations, i am strongly concerned about our scouting set up, last january was probably the first transfer window we have had in years that i would consider successful, and the big issue is most of them are loan players who probably won't be here next year,
i always go back to the Paterson signing, we signed him injured as a right back, and on his first training session NW said the "lad can't defend" in that case whose signing was that, who scouted him etc, we all loved Pato and he was a great hard working forward player.
You've answered your own question the scouting is better now than under previous managers
we cannot say for certain though, we have had 1 good transfer window. the true test for me i think will be come the summer when he have to build a squad, if heaven forbid, it goes pear shape, we can't then claim, well it was an awful season, players werent good enough, but our scouting set up is better because of 1 decent window.
One good transfer window at the first attempt and a decent season since (for the new manager) after many disappointing ones...
I'm not sure what your point is when you give little credit and appear very negative?

give little credit ? i stated that january was the first one i considered successful, and i strongly believe thats down to Miorison more than anyone else. and i am not trying to sound negative, the argument before mine was a case of "the wage budget limitations meant we wouldnt sign quality" my reply was, i don't think money is an issue when it comes to signing quality, my big concern was/is the scouting set up which for years has been very poor.
i mean i dont quite understand what i am supposed to say, we had 1 good Recruitment period, therefore every single player we now sign will set the league alight ?
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:36 pm
NIBluebird wrote:Salary talks not presentations
You get what you pay for in most cases
West From at one end of the scale as well as Luton and Huddersfield at the other end of the scale, will say differently.
It is possible to achieve success in this league with limited funds.
You just need a good manager, good coaching staff and a great team spirit - I believe we have those things. The team spirit part is hard to judge because it will be a totally different team next season, but I'm confident we'll bring in the right sort of players in that respect.
Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:01 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:NIBluebird wrote:Salary talks not presentations
You get what you pay for in most cases
West From at one end of the scale as well as Luton and Huddersfield at the other end of the scale, will say differently.
It is possible to achieve success in this league with limited funds.
You just need a good manager, good coaching staff and a great team spirit - I believe we have those things. The team spirit part is hard to judge because it will be a totally different team next season, but I'm confident we'll bring in the right sort of players in that respect.
Agree
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:42 am
We have had more than one good transfer window
1-ojo & wilson
2- NG
3- Wintle & McGuiness
Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:59 am
llan bluebird wrote:We have had more than one good transfer window
1-ojo & wilson
2- NG
3- Wintle & McGuiness
Yes, you beat me to it and you missed out Moore !! There has been a gradual improvement on recruitment that people appear reticent to recognise.
Couple that with improvement in the Academy and U23s and even the biggest cynic has to surely accept that we’ve improved the structure and footballing side.
We don’t have the money we had but that doesn’t necessarily spell disaster.
Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:45 pm
effectively wait to see what dross is left and we will get them
Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:05 pm
Warnock was given a lot of money, who did he buy? Madine £6m, Murphy £11m,Flint £4m,Smithies £4m,Cunningham £4m,Bacuna £3m,Tomlin £3m,Vassel £3m,Vaulks £2m,Pack £2m,Bogle £1m etc etc plus their wages,agents,signing on fees etc!
How much did we sell these journeymen for, a big fat ZERO! Similar with Ole! So money is not the be all and end all it’s who you sign and how they fit into the team not how much you pay for them!
Morison has recruited well in January so let’s see where we are next January!
Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:28 pm
1980s Bluebird wrote:effectively wait to see what dross is left and we will get them

And on what evidence do you base that assumption ?
Certainly nothing in the last 2/3 transfer windows backing you up !!
Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:24 pm
Ojo and Wilson im sure we had competition for.
Ng, I doubt we had any competition
Wintle and McGuiness Very much doubt we had competition.
A window consisting of Ng, then a window consisting of Wintle and McGuiness (which also included Collins and Giles) cannot in my opinion be seen as a good window.
My point is that our last window of Doyle, Drameh, Doughty, Hugill and Ikpeazu brought a certain level of quality and experience that we have lacked for a few years. OK, all paud for out of the Moore sale, but it was a much needed window.
Previous windows in my opinion have been a very big let down. A previous poster wasnt too far wrong in my opinion by saying about seeing whats left and we'll take it.
If we dont find even the smallest amount of money to bring in similar we are in for another struggle
Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:40 pm
Barclay1 wrote:Ojo and Wilson im sure we had competition for.
Ng, I doubt we had any competition
Wintle and McGuiness Very much doubt we had competition.
A window consisting of Ng, then a window consisting of Wintle and McGuiness (which also included Collins and Giles) cannot in my opinion be seen as a good window.
My point is that our last window of Doyle, Drameh, Doughty, Hugill and Ikpeazu brought a certain level of quality and experience that we have lacked for a few years. OK, all paud for out of the Moore sale, but it was a much needed window.
Previous windows in my opinion have been a very big let down. A previous poster wasnt too far wrong in my opinion by saying about seeing whats left and we'll take it.
If we dont find even the smallest amount of money to bring in similar we are in for another struggle
Loads of competition for Wilson, including Bournemouth and The Jacks. Ojo was wanted by others but probably not so badly
Wintle also had a number of offers (I think people forget how relatively young he is) and Ng was also rated by many having been Crewe captain at a very early age.
Don't know about McGuinness as that seemed to come out of left field.
Also a lot of clubs wanted Moore, and I've still to work out why he actually came to us because the price was only so cheap because Wigan were desperate for the money.
That said, I do agree that we will have to spend some money in the summer to make us competitive. A goalscorer will cost that's for sure as well as some established Championship players to go with loans, etc.
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