STEVE MORISON: NOW THE DUST IS SETTLING

Like most others, I was tamping after 'that' negatively historic result on Saturday, the way we capitulated, and the seemingly dismissive comments of our fledgling manager, Steve Morison

Criticism of most involved was, in the main, warranted and (to an acceptable degree) deserved. We, the support, were left reeling and feeling rather letdown

But a couple of nights sleep, a few contrite words from the manager and a bit of reflection can change ones outlook on things and, for me, is such one occasion

This morning, I had a chat with my good friend and trusted contributor, GrangeEndStar; a long-standing Bluebird supporter and very knowledgeable on football in general and Cardiff City FC in particular

We discussed the events of the weekend and between us managed to dissect events and look to what it might mean for the future

We really like Steve Morison and the positive changes he has brought to the club, squad and team, since (temporarily at first) taking the ship's wheel

We both understand there was someone lined up to take over for next season but that was shelved due to the rapid and positive reshaping of the squad, some great 'loan' signings and the club's rapid extrication from a very real relegation fight

Who amongst us genuinely thought we wouldn't be fighting relegation right to the end?

It seems Vincent Tan has (relatively) backed him, too and hopefully he will this summer; albeit with within budgetary limitations the manager and his scouting network will already be aware of and planning for

Clearly mistakes were made surrounding Saturday's game. A seemingly lack of proper 'derby' preparation (nothing to do with Dubai) both on and off the pitch was obvious. We discussed any 'plan' before the game and believed a big, strong starting XI was vitally important, if we were to push back and 'bully' the Swans out of any rhythm; and he seemed to do the exact opposite of what we expected

We certainly didn't need three centre backs against their lightweight but mobile attack and the inclusion of the 'enforcer' Will Vaulks and maybe Uche from the start (rather than the usual end) might have made the difference

We'll never know; but the thought is that they were very prepared for what we would call our 'usual' game; and an opportunity was missed

His post-match silence was certainly mis-judged, as was his declining to meet certain elements of the Press. You have to front these things up and let the supporters know you care. It's a pre-requisite for any game but particularly for one against that lot!

On reflection, we feel sure that Steve Morison and his team will learn from this weekend and move on without dwelling too much on what has gone. We all need to look forward; unlike the 'Jacks', who will be dining out in their Union Jack t-shirts for some time to come after their biggest game of their season (not ours)

I like to think we are bigger than that and I am confident we are, as a club and as a supporter group

Steve Morison has done relative wonders since his appointment and he has been refreshing in both his aporoach and on occasion brutal honesty. He seems to be pointing us in the right direction and despite last weekend, he has our full support going forward in the knowledge he be positively looking ahead already


On a side note, it is noted that the silence from the owner and (in particular) his cohorts this weekend has been deafening!

Are they embarrassed? Are they supportive of their manager? Were any of them at the game? Do they actually care?

Who knows currently; but questions are being asked and their actions certainly seem to suggest the manager has been left on an island to fend for himself...

Like most others, I was tamping after 'that' negatively historic result on Saturday, the way we capitulated, and the seemingly dismissive comments of our fledgling manager, Steve Morison

Criticism of most involved was, in the main, warranted and (to an acceptable degree) deserved. We, the support, were left reeling and feeling rather letdown

But a couple of nights sleep, a few contrite words from the manager and a bit of reflection can change ones outlook on things and, for me, is such one occasion

This morning, I had a chat with my good friend and trusted contributor, GrangeEndStar; a long-standing Bluebird supporter and very knowledgeable on football in general and Cardiff City FC in particular

We discussed the events of the weekend and between us managed to dissect events and look to what it might mean for the future

We really like Steve Morison and the positive changes he has brought to the club, squad and team, since (temporarily at first) taking the ship's wheel

We both understand there was someone lined up to take over for next season but that was shelved due to the rapid and positive reshaping of the squad, some great 'loan' signings and the club's rapid extrication from a very real relegation fight

Who amongst us genuinely thought we wouldn't be fighting relegation right to the end?

It seems Vincent Tan has (relatively) backed him, too and hopefully he will this summer; albeit with within budgetary limitations the manager and his scouting network will already be aware of and planning for

Clearly mistakes were made surrounding Saturday's game. A seemingly lack of proper 'derby' preparation (nothing to do with Dubai) both on and off the pitch was obvious. We discussed any 'plan' before the game and believed a big, strong starting XI was vitally important, if we were to push back and 'bully' the Swans out of any rhythm; and he seemed to do the exact opposite of what we expected

We certainly didn't need three centre backs against their lightweight but mobile attack and the inclusion of the 'enforcer' Will Vaulks and maybe Uche from the start (rather than the usual end) might have made the difference

We'll never know; but the thought is that they were very prepared for what we would call our 'usual' game; and an opportunity was missed

His post-match silence was certainly mis-judged, as was his declining to meet certain elements of the Press. You have to front these things up and let the supporters know you care. It's a pre-requisite for any game but particularly for one against that lot!

On reflection, we feel sure that Steve Morison and his team will learn from this weekend and move on without dwelling too much on what has gone. We all need to look forward; unlike the 'Jacks', who will be dining out in their Union Jack t-shirts for some time to come after their biggest game of their season (not ours)

I like to think we are bigger than that and I am confident we are, as a club and as a supporter group

Steve Morison has done relative wonders since his appointment and he has been refreshing in both his aporoach and on occasion brutal honesty. He seems to be pointing us in the right direction and despite last weekend, he has our full support going forward in the knowledge he be positively looking ahead already


On a side note, it is noted that the silence from the owner and (in particular) his cohorts this weekend has been deafening!

Are they embarrassed? Are they supportive of their manager? Were any of them at the game? Do they actually care?

Who knows currently; but questions are being asked and their actions certainly seem to suggest the manager has been left on an island to fend for himself...

An excellent post Sven.

I see Arteta has apologised to the Arsenal fans after his team were battered by Palace.

Occasionally, hubris from the person in charge admitting he got it wrong tactically and is culpable goes a long way.

Sven, you and Grange end star are great posters (is that the word ?) and I value your opinions, but i just don't get the optimism in SM. I only saw his post match press conference lunchtime and even though i was prepared for the attitude as i had read so much it still was shocking.

At the start of the season i believe the general consensus we'd end up around 12~16th. Our squad was unbalanced but at least championship grade. For whatever reason Mick decided to set us up to get sacked, he just didn't fancy it anymore, we'll never know why, but 5 centre half was taking the mickey.

Vinny backed SM during the winter window and even if Barnsley and P'boro had Pep and Klopp their players are not as good as ours and in the end that counts.
Is our team really greater than the sum of the parts ? Drameh has been a revelation even more than Doyle, he has been our catalyst for most things good. This is not like when Warnock took a playoff hoping team to an auto team, where the system and individual game management were key.
The recruitment has been good but SM is not the DoF and we had two decent windows prior to SM promotion from the U23's.

Most on here say SM needs at least two windows to make his team, but what do you think that teams philosophy will be. He was a target man in quite unsophiscated teams, who are his coaching idols.

We set up negatively. Wintle is a defensive midfielder, Ralls will end up there as his legs go and Doyle played there for England U21, add in three centre half and out attacking intent come from the two wingbacks or as they used to be called attacking full backs. That leaves a big man little man combo up from even though Davies is clearly not ready yet to play centrally.

We are where we are, with absolutely no senior management leadership and a performance against Swansea reflective of the current malaise around the club. Remember when Vinny said we are just customers, well the closed season may well be the acid test

The result was the issue, one day one of us was going to be doubled, it was a rare obscure stat anyway, it was the manner and lack of any idea that confirmed he is not ready to be the first team manager at Cardiff City

I really think he is trying to

Sven, you and Grange end star are great posters (is that the word ?) and I value your opinions, but i just don't get the optimism in SM. I only saw his post match press conference lunchtime and even though i was prepared for the attitude as i had read so much it still was shocking.

At the start of the season i believe the general consensus we'd end up around 12~16th. Our squad was unbalanced but at least championship grade. For whatever reason Mick decided to set us up to get sacked, he just didn't fancy it anymore, we'll never know why, but 5 centre half was taking the mickey.

Vinny backed SM during the winter window and even if Barnsley and P'boro had Pep and Klopp their players are not as good as ours and in the end that counts.
Is our team really greater than the sum of the parts ? Drameh has been a revelation even more than Doyle, he has been our catalyst for most things good. This is not like when Warnock took a playoff hoping team to an auto team, where the system and individual game management were key.
The recruitment has been good but SM is not the DoF and we had two decent windows prior to SM promotion from the U23's.

Most on here say SM needs at least two windows to make his team, but what do you think that teams philosophy will be. He was a target man in quite unsophiscated teams, who are his coaching idols.

We set up negatively. Wintle is a defensive midfielder, Ralls will end up there as his legs go and Doyle played there for England U21, add in three centre half and out attacking intent come from the two wingbacks or as they used to be called attacking full backs. That leaves a big man little man combo up from even though Davies is clearly not ready yet to play centrally.

We are where we are, with absolutely no senior management leadership and a performance against Swansea reflective of the current malaise around the club. Remember when Vinny said we are just customers, well the closed season may well be the acid test

The result was the issue, one day one of us was going to be doubled, it was a rare obscure stat anyway, it was the manner and lack of any idea that confirmed he is not ready to be the first team manager at Cardiff City

I really think he is trying to

Some great points in there, Ilan bluebird

I always try to be respectful and when people like yourself post thinking stuff like that, it is just about opinions and I love it

My personal belief is that Steve Morison has made a great start to his managerial career and will better learn from his mistakes this season than next, when he will be on a hiding to nothing with our support, if he doesn't start well out of the blocks

As we know, our (so called) Committee are known to pull the plug halfway through a season, if they think any mud will stick on them...

Like most others, I was tamping after 'that' negatively historic result on Saturday, the way we capitulated, and the seemingly dismissive comments of our fledgling manager, Steve Morison

Criticism of most involved was, in the main, warranted and (to an acceptable degree) deserved. We, the support, were left reeling and feeling rather letdown

But a couple of nights sleep, a few contrite words from the manager and a bit of reflection can change ones outlook on things and, for me, is such one occasion

This morning, I had a chat with my good friend and trusted contributor, GrangeEndStar; a long-standing Bluebird supporter and very knowledgeable on football in general and Cardiff City FC in particular

We discussed the events of the weekend and between us managed to dissect events and look to what it might mean for the future

We really like Steve Morison and the positive changes he has brought to the club, squad and team, since (temporarily at first) taking the ship's wheel

We both understand there was someone lined up to take over for next season but that was shelved due to the rapid and positive reshaping of the squad, some great 'loan' signings and the club's rapid extrication from a very real relegation fight

Who amongst us genuinely thought we wouldn't be fighting relegation right to the end?

It seems Vincent Tan has (relatively) backed him, too and hopefully he will this summer; albeit with within budgetary limitations the manager and his scouting network will already be aware of and planning for

Clearly mistakes were made surrounding Saturday's game. A seemingly lack of proper 'derby' preparation (nothing to do with Dubai) both on and off the pitch was obvious. We discussed any 'plan' before the game and believed a big, strong starting XI was vitally important, if we were to push back and 'bully' the Swans out of any rhythm; and he seemed to do the exact opposite of what we expected

We certainly didn't need three centre backs against their lightweight but mobile attack and the inclusion of the 'enforcer' Will Vaulks and maybe Uche from the start (rather than the usual end) might have made the difference

We'll never know; but the thought is that they were very prepared for what we would call our 'usual' game; and an opportunity was missed

His post-match silence was certainly mis-judged, as was his declining to meet certain elements of the Press. You have to front these things up and let the supporters know you care. It's a pre-requisite for any game but particularly for one against that lot!

On reflection, we feel sure that Steve Morison and his team will learn from this weekend and move on without dwelling too much on what has gone. We all need to look forward; unlike the 'Jacks', who will be dining out in their Union Jack t-shirts for some time to come after their biggest game of their season (not ours)

I like to think we are bigger than that and I am confident we are, as a club and as a supporter group

Steve Morison has done relative wonders since his appointment and he has been refreshing in both his aporoach and on occasion brutal honesty. He seems to be pointing us in the right direction and despite last weekend, he has our full support going forward in the knowledge he be positively looking ahead already


On a side note, it is noted that the silence from the owner and (in particular) his cohorts this weekend has been deafening!

Are they embarrassed? Are they supportive of their manager? Were any of them at the game? Do they actually care?

Who knows currently; but questions are being asked and their actions certainly seem to suggest the manager has been left on an island to fend for himself...

An excellent and well thought out post Chris.
Refreshing after the some of the pathetic comments since the game.

There was nobody more gutted than me on not only the result but the display.

I am happy with Steve Morison and the job he’s done so far and like you I support him going forward but the only thing I’d question from your summary is the fact that I don’t think the team will learn from this as you say.

From speaking to my contact (you know who I mean) I believe the majority of the players are only thinking of the money/transfers/new contracts.

I certainly hope Morison has learnt from this though as I think he should be more flexible with his set-ups. No need of 3 centre backs last Saturday.

Sven, you and Grange end star are great posters (is that the word ?) and I value your opinions, but i just don't get the optimism in SM. I only saw his post match press conference lunchtime and even though i was prepared for the attitude as i had read so much it still was shocking.

At the start of the season i believe the general consensus we'd end up around 12~16th. Our squad was unbalanced but at least championship grade. For whatever reason Mick decided to set us up to get sacked, he just didn't fancy it anymore, we'll never know why, but 5 centre half was taking the mickey.

Vinny backed SM during the winter window and even if Barnsley and P'boro had Pep and Klopp their players are not as good as ours and in the end that counts.
Is our team really greater than the sum of the parts ? Drameh has been a revelation even more than Doyle, he has been our catalyst for most things good. This is not like when Warnock took a playoff hoping team to an auto team, where the system and individual game management were key.
The recruitment has been good but SM is not the DoF and we had two decent windows prior to SM promotion from the U23's.

Most on here say SM needs at least two windows to make his team, but what do you think that teams philosophy will be. He was a target man in quite unsophiscated teams, who are his coaching idols.

We set up negatively. Wintle is a defensive midfielder, Ralls will end up there as his legs go and Doyle played there for England U21, add in three centre half and out attacking intent come from the two wingbacks or as they used to be called attacking full backs. That leaves a big man little man combo up from even though Davies is clearly not ready yet to play centrally.

We are where we are, with absolutely no senior management leadership and a performance against Swansea reflective of the current malaise around the club. Remember when Vinny said we are just customers, well the closed season may well be the acid test

The result was the issue, one day one of us was going to be doubled, it was a rare obscure stat anyway, it was the manner and lack of any idea that confirmed he is not ready to be the first team manager at Cardiff City

I really think he is trying to

Thing is mate ever since you've been posting you've only ever given any manager 5 mins to perform the impossible.And on second thoughts your not the only one.Morison is direct and blunt totally the opposite of Harris and Warnock who in their own style said all the things the fans wanted to hear and I know who I prefer.Publically even Malky chose his words carefully when addresing the fans.I may be in the minority of one here but I think Morison could build a team here not seen since DJ was in charge in terms of the game played being easy on the eye.

Sven,great post mate.Rome wasn't built in a day.

Sven, you and Grange end star are great posters (is that the word ?) and I value your opinions, but i just don't get the optimism in SM. I only saw his post match press conference lunchtime and even though i was prepared for the attitude as i had read so much it still was shocking.

At the start of the season i believe the general consensus we'd end up around 12~16th. Our squad was unbalanced but at least championship grade. For whatever reason Mick decided to set us up to get sacked, he just didn't fancy it anymore, we'll never know why, but 5 centre half was taking the mickey.

Vinny backed SM during the winter window and even if Barnsley and P'boro had Pep and Klopp their players are not as good as ours and in the end that counts.
Is our team really greater than the sum of the parts ? Drameh has been a revelation even more than Doyle, he has been our catalyst for most things good. This is not like when Warnock took a playoff hoping team to an auto team, where the system and individual game management were key.
The recruitment has been good but SM is not the DoF and we had two decent windows prior to SM promotion from the U23's.

Most on here say SM needs at least two windows to make his team, but what do you think that teams philosophy will be. He was a target man in quite unsophiscated teams, who are his coaching idols.

We set up negatively. Wintle is a defensive midfielder, Ralls will end up there as his legs go and Doyle played there for England U21, add in three centre half and out attacking intent come from the two wingbacks or as they used to be called attacking full backs. That leaves a big man little man combo up from even though Davies is clearly not ready yet to play centrally.

We are where we are, with absolutely no senior management leadership and a performance against Swansea reflective of the current malaise around the club. Remember when Vinny said we are just customers, well the closed season may well be the acid test

The result was the issue, one day one of us was going to be doubled, it was a rare obscure stat anyway, it was the manner and lack of any idea that confirmed he is not ready to be the first team manager at Cardiff City

I really think he is trying to

Thing is mate ever since you've been posting you've only ever given any manager 5 mins to perform the impossible.And on second thoughts your not the only one.Morison is direct and blunt totally the opposite of Harris and Warnock who in their own style said all the things the fans wanted to hear and I know who I prefer.Publically even Malky chose his words carefully when addresing the fans.I may be in the minority of one here but I think Morison could build a team here not seen since DJ was in charge in terms of the game played being easy on the eye.

Sven,great post mate.Rome wasn't built in a day.

Sneggy, The hard thing for me to accept is that football management is that easy that you can jump into a championship club from a season in U23's and be successful. Perhaps it is and we should pay them 2 or 3 grand a week because anyone can do it.

Before Saturday i was against the idea of SM, not him personally. My only bit of Jack envy is how they get their management appointment right nearly all the time. They leave them to go upwards ours are never heard of again. When was the last time a city manager went onto better things ?

I was hoping for a manager from a minor Euro league with a bit of form for exciting modern football. I like direct fast football, not fake Citeh stuff.

I think SM is like Isaak Davies. He is learning his trade in front of 20K, some days he will look promising others not so, all we can do is hope he proves good enough at championship level.

My disappointment is at the lazy board rather then SM.

Dust settling? The way I still feel now 3 days later I wouldn’t watch those cunts if they were playing out on the field behind my house! Fuming.

Dust settling? The way I still feel now 3 days later I wouldn’t watch those cunts if they were playing out on the field behind my house! Fuming.

There you go, then...! Each to his or her own but your use of profanity takes away any credibility you might have had...

I hope you are as embarrassed at that as you were with the team?

Like most others, I was tamping after 'that' negatively historic result on Saturday, the way we capitulated, and the seemingly dismissive comments of our fledgling manager, Steve Morison

Criticism of most involved was, in the main, warranted and (to an acceptable degree) deserved. We, the support, were left reeling and feeling rather letdown

But a couple of nights sleep, a few contrite words from the manager and a bit of reflection can change ones outlook on things and, for me, is such one occasion

This morning, I had a chat with my good friend and trusted contributor, GrangeEndStar; a long-standing Bluebird supporter and very knowledgeable on football in general and Cardiff City FC in particular

We discussed the events of the weekend and between us managed to dissect events and look to what it might mean for the future

We really like Steve Morison and the positive changes he has brought to the club, squad and team, since (temporarily at first) taking the ship's wheel

We both understand there was someone lined up to take over for next season but that was shelved due to the rapid and positive reshaping of the squad, some great 'loan' signings and the club's rapid extrication from a very real relegation fight

Who amongst us genuinely thought we wouldn't be fighting relegation right to the end?

It seems Vincent Tan has (relatively) backed him, too and hopefully he will this summer; albeit with within budgetary limitations the manager and his scouting network will already be aware of and planning for

Clearly mistakes were made surrounding Saturday's game. A seemingly lack of proper 'derby' preparation (nothing to do with Dubai) both on and off the pitch was obvious. We discussed any 'plan' before the game and believed a big, strong starting XI was vitally important, if we were to push back and 'bully' the Swans out of any rhythm; and he seemed to do the exact opposite of what we expected

We certainly didn't need three centre backs against their lightweight but mobile attack and the inclusion of the 'enforcer' Will Vaulks and maybe Uche from the start (rather than the usual end) might have made the difference

We'll never know; but the thought is that they were very prepared for what we would call our 'usual' game; and an opportunity was missed

His post-match silence was certainly mis-judged, as was his declining to meet certain elements of the Press. You have to front these things up and let the supporters know you care. It's a pre-requisite for any game but particularly for one against that lot!

On reflection, we feel sure that Steve Morison and his team will learn from this weekend and move on without dwelling too much on what has gone. We all need to look forward; unlike the 'Jacks', who will be dining out in their Union Jack t-shirts for some time to come after their biggest game of their season (not ours)

I like to think we are bigger than that and I am confident we are, as a club and as a supporter group

Steve Morison has done relative wonders since his appointment and he has been refreshing in both his aporoach and on occasion brutal honesty. He seems to be pointing us in the right direction and despite last weekend, he has our full support going forward in the knowledge he be positively looking ahead already


On a side note, it is noted that the silence from the owner and (in particular) his cohorts this weekend has been deafening!

Are they embarrassed? Are they supportive of their manager? Were any of them at the game? Do they actually care?

Who knows currently; but questions are being asked and their actions certainly seem to suggest the manager has been left on an island to fend for himself...

An excellent and well thought out post Chris.
Refreshing after the some of the pathetic comments since the game.

There was nobody more gutted than me on not only the result but the display.

I am happy with Steve Morison and the job he’s done so far and like you I support him going forward but the only thing I’d question from your summary is the fact that I don’t think the team will learn from this as you say.

From speaking to my contact (you know who I mean) I believe the majority of the players are only thinking of the money/transfers/new contracts.

I certainly hope Morison has learnt from this though as I think he should be more flexible with his set-ups. No need of 3 centre backs last Saturday.

Paul, I know who you mean and it saddens me that is the case but even sadder, it doesn't surprise me

It seems some of our higher earners are coasting to the end of their contracts and the quicker we have a summer reset the better

Our season is over and whilst I am not a fan of putting out a weakened dide, I would support the manager in testing what he has available for next season

Thank you for your kind comments. From you, they mean a lot...

Dust settling? The way I still feel now 3 days later I wouldn’t watch those cunts if they were playing out on the field behind my house! Fuming.

There you go, then...! Each to his or her own but your use of profanity takes away any credibility you might have had...

I hope you are as embarrassed at that as you were with the team?

You are 100% correct. Once you use profanity you’ve lost the argument, but I think it was fitting in that context and I stand by it. I’m sure I’ll have calmed down by 3pm Saturday.

Great post, Morison is a good manager who has done an excellent job and I believe he will have learned a lot from this. Very happy with the job he has done mostly.

He underestimated the importance I think, he's a good young Manager and will learn

He’s brought in some good loan players and kids from the Academy so despite last Saturday’s disaster should be given the summer to bring in his own players.If it’s not working by Christmas he’ll go like many others and the January window given to a new Manager! I however do wish he would start with Colwill our best Academy player since Rambo who can score goals that win matches. Dave Jones was the same with Ramsey and we lost games through his reluctance to play him because of his age despite him obviously being our best player!

He’s brought in some good loan players and kids from the Academy so despite last Saturday’s disaster should be given the summer to bring in his own players.If it’s not working by Christmas he’ll go like many others and the January window given to a new Manager! I however do wish he would start with Colwill our best Academy player since Rambo who can score goals that win matches. Dave Jones was the same with Ramsey and we lost games through his reluctance to play him because of his age despite him obviously being our best player!

Mate, if you know anything about football then decent football managers rarely if ever start the really good young kids every game.
Dave Jones was right.
Foden is the perfect example.
It’s about managing and nurturing these kids.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him start against Reading.

Totally agree it was a shocking performance from the team and a naive performance from management..but on the whole Morison has done very well since he was appointed

Hopefully, everyone can learn from this and move on

And yes, once again Choo and Dalman are nowhere to be seen when the going gets tough there are both gutless

SM has hung several young players out to dry and publicly humiliated them yet he didn’t have the balls himself to front up to the media when he got things drastically wrong.
Zero respect for that I’m afraid

SM has hung several young players out to dry and publicly humiliated them yet he didn’t have the balls himself to front up to the media when he got things drastically wrong.
Zero respect for that I’m afraid

He got a reaction from those players though; and now one from you...