How many minds were on their new contracts

Because they were not on the game..

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

No idea but I don't want to see them in a Cardiff shirt again.

We are safe fortunately so lets give the youngsters a game or 2. Send the loanees back and those out of contract put on garden leave never to be seen again.

If I’m correct they are still getting paid by us……not one of them wanted that. All stems from the manager unfortunately

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

Disagree. It's the players you need to be blaming not the manager, they just don't care.

Anyone who played today and needs a new feal. f**k em. Ralls included.

As for the manager. No fire. The substitutions. Like for like. Grips my shit. Change it up.

Not one player can hold their head up after that

Embarrassing, let Swansea have the ball from the off and defended like school kids ,big rebuild in the summer .

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

You would have started with this 11, or made those changes?

The only change from the starting 11 I would have made would be Colwill for Harris. Shocked he didn´t start after his week for Wales, he would have been on a high for sure.

Can agree with your statement on going long after we were behind, but no way from the beginning. Hugill missed two half chances again.

Personally can´t argue with Morrisons decisions too much, so maybe we have to agree to disagree there. I really feel the players didn´t show up, and the blame to be on them, interesting to hear other perspectives nonetheless.

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

You would have started with this 11, or made those changes?

The only change from the starting 11 I would have made would be Colwill for Harris. Shocked he didn´t start after his week for Wales, he would have been on a high for sure.

Can agree with your statement on going long after we were behind, but no way from the beginning. Hugill missed two half chances again.

Personally can´t argue with Morrisons decisions too much, so maybe we have to agree to disagree there. I really feel the players didn´t show up, and the blame to be on them, interesting to hear other perspectives nonetheless.

Yeah the players didn't show up and hopefully they will not get a chance again for the rest of the season. Lets bring in the youngsters who will at least give it a go.

Would have started with Uche and Hugill. If they did their scouting properly then they would have known that they have midget centre halves but are good on the ball. We needed to press high, not stand off and allow them to have a training session on our pitch.

This is the issue, people not blaming Morison but we lost 4-0 at home to a piss poor team. He picks the team, who else’s fault is it?

Would have started with Uche and Hugill. If they did their scouting properly then they would have known that they have midget centre halves but are good on the ball. We needed to press high, not stand off and allow them to have a training session on our pitch.

This is the issue, people not blaming Morison but we lost 4-0 at home to a piss poor team. He picks the team, who else’s fault is it?

Hes obviously responsible for picking the team. As I mentioned I would have gone with mostly the same starting 11, other than Harris, I think most would have too. Once the game starts, its down to the players and they really didn´t step up today. We lost 4-0 though, so it´s easy to argue it was the wrong starting 11 too.

Embarassing day for us, hopefully we can move on from this.

Gutless bunch of prima Donnas, Ralls, Smithies,Flint can all be dropped and never play for us again.

Of the out of contract players out there today, none of them should be offered new deals.
I’ve never rated Ralls, he’s gotten slower and slower and is so one footed. He was made to look like a Sunday league player by the opposing midfielders today.
City need better by a long way.
Flint today’s also looked what he is - a journeyman past it.

Gutless bunch of prima Donnas, Ralls, Smithies,Flint can all be dropped and never play for us again.

Amen.

Phillips. Denham. King. Dont think we'd lose much. Apart from about 75k a week!!

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

Disagree. It's the players you need to be blaming not the manager, they just don't care.

If Morison watched the video of swansea at Sheff U, Blackpool and Peterboro he mustn’t have learnt anything.
From the 1st minute when they should have scored they were better in every aspect.

With ease they passed from the back forwards through the midfield whereas all we could do was watch Flint lob long balls down the side or pump it up to a useless centre forward who spent most of the time falling over.

Why our manager thought he could outplay the opposition (who plainly had more skilful and quality players in their midfield) by his system today is baffling.

It’ll need a serious recruitment of bette players than we’ve got under contract. None of the out of contract players should be renewed. The thought process behind the recruitment should start now.

How can a little club down the road keep on acquiring better players thanCity? Grimes Pirio Paterson Downes Wolf are so much better than our counterparts. It’s about time some football people were brought into the club who know what to do.

Lot of silly talk on here tonight and after the game

Was that performance appalling, yes did anyone expect much different i reality on there way to the game cos I’ll be honest I didn’t at all, I literally said to my mates we would lose comfortably especially when I saw the line up

It was a huge game for us fans I get it but for those players it was a nothing game

Only 5 of the starting 11 will definitely be at the club next season, The other 6 out of contract or on loan and unlikely to come back so to expect them to give a shit about a derby when we are safe in the league was the first red flag really

Out of the 5 here for sure Harris, not good enough for this league

Bagan, had a the odd good game but generally out of his depth at this level currently but could come good with time (gets zero support from the woeful ralls in front of him either)

Mcguiness solid enough for his age but in need of a break IMO

Ng - not a natural centre back although he’s slotted in reasonably well but prone to errors on occasions

Wintle - had an off game today has been superb since he come back in, generally seemed to need to push out of holding today a lot cos ralls and Doyle were appalling in front of him both chasing shadows all game I’d imagine Colwill got on the ball more than both inside 5 minutes of coming on the pitch than both did combined to that point

The other 6 are either loans or out of contract and the only one that could probably hold his head up and say yeah I have it pretty much what I had was Drameh and he didn’t have a great game either

Now I can’t even say Morison got the line up wrong because to be fair we have virtually no options anyway, we don’t have any wingers and what needed to happen after 20 minutes was centre back off (no need for 3 with just a 5ft striker to watch obafemi) and another body into midfield as we were being overrun ideals it should have Been a flat back 4 with wingers to push their wing backs back like they weee doing to our wing backs but without any out and out wingers we are left with a system that generally has been ok since he took over but very limited to how we can tactically change a game

Do I think he addresses that as best he can on a limited budget in the summer, yes I do, has he done the best he can with the shite he’s been left with, again a yes for me, could he make some changes sometimes to tweak formation, yes but he is extremely limited currrntly in what he can do

I think people need to step back a little today stinks it really does but let’s be realistic here Morison will need a minimum of 3 proper transfer windows to fully reshape this squad, the board are responsible for allowing players contact to dwindle (in this instance I generally think it’s the right thing to do anyway we need the reset) and anyone that thinks we can bring in 10/12 players in the summer and challenge next season is off their rocker this is gonna take serious work and we will be lucky to field a reasonable first eleven next year it’s gonna be a long hard season again but give Morison a few windows ideally the summer January and next summer and we will have a better idea of exactly what his side looks like remember what we have now is dross and whatever he could muster loans wise to keep us in this division (which he has done)

There were plenty saying we were going to get relegated and for a long while it looked that way but we won’t now and we can finally try and rebuild the club

Other than Davies or Colwill for Harris that was basically our best 11

I went yesterday expecting a performance like we produced against Forest who are a superior team to Swansea ( league table doesn’t lie) and instead got a revert to type performance like under previous managers !
Standing off from the kick off and could have been a goal down in the first minute, looked like Martin had done his homework, had his team mentally and physically ready to impose themselves on the game!

I hope our manager is capable of taking criticism and learning from his mistakes !

Steve Morison has to take blame as much

He would have lost all credit today after that.

1,000% Lost My Respect Big Time today.

Not to sound rude, but why ?

Other than Colwill, I probably would have picked the same line up. Harris should never start for me. But honestly, the players didn´t step up - not sure what Morisson could have done differently, interested to hear your thoughts and perspective?

Played Uche and Hugill and gone direct. They had two men on Hugill all game, picked up the second ball off him and off they went. They had 3 defenders under 6ft. I would have played Vaulks too for the long throw. Only time we looked like creating was from a set piece.

People need to get out of Morisons arse. He’s done fantastically well up until his biggest game as Cardiff manager and he bottled it. Bottled it massively.

Bottled or just got it wrong?

You already admitted he's "done well" up to now but you feel one single game now sums him up a a manager?

That, excuse me, is disappointing at best...!

Not one player can hold their head up after that

Disagree fella, Dramah, NG and Colwill can hold their heads high, Steve Morison today picked the wrong starting lineup, formation and tactics. It pains me to say but the Jacks fully deserved their win and they did their homework on us.