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‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 7:42 am

The owners of Stoke City have eased the Championship club's finances by reducing debts by £160m.

Thursday 24th March 2022




Owners, bet365 Group, have converted £40m of loans into equity in the club's holding company, and waived £120m of shareholder loans.



"This greatly strengthens the club's balance sheet and also provides more long-term stability for the club," said joint chairman John Coates.

Stoke are 15th in the Championship, 12 points adrift of the play-offs.

This is the Potters' fourth season since relegation from the Premier League in 2018 and the first one without parachute payments.

After a bright start to this campaign, Michael O'Neill's team, who beat Millwall 2-0 last Saturday, have managed just three wins from 15 games in 2022 and are almost certain to have a fifth season outside the top flight.

But the club's owners remain determined to turn around the team's fortunes.

"On the field, the last four or five years have not proved to be as successful as any of us would have hoped," Mr Coates said in a statement.

"However, our commitment to the club, its future success, financial sustainability and place at the heart of our local community remains as strong and focussed as ever."


Stoke announced a planned five-year redevelopment project for the club's home ground - the bet365 Stadium - and Clayton Wood training ground last month.

The initial phase will cost around £4m and be competed in time for the start of the 2022-23 season.
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Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:22 am

A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:33 am

Honestly football finances and clubs abilities to rack up such ridiculous debts completely baffle me

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:43 am

Loyal City fan wrote:Honestly football finances and clubs abilities to rack up such ridiculous debts completely baffle me

Agree ,chasing the dream of premiership money the bubble will burst eventually, ffp has helped recently but teams still gamble

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:50 am

Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:57 am

maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:04 am

Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:


I noticed that too. It's the 9th comment down by TLG. Third time its happened now, just copying from others and posting as his own. Odd.

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:04 am

GrangeEndStar wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:


I noticed that too. It's the 9th comment down by TLG. Third time its happened now, just copying from others and posting as his own. Odd.

TLG? Always enjoyed his posts on here... :clap: :ayatollah:

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:30 am

Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:


I noticed that too. It's the 9th comment down by TLG. Third time its happened now, just copying from others and posting as his own. Odd.

TLG? Always enjoyed his posts on here... :clap: :ayatollah:



Sven, yes i got them of a TLG post, i respect him and knows whats what :thumbright:

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:10 am

Ninian27 wrote:
Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:


I noticed that too. It's the 9th comment down by TLG. Third time its happened now, just copying from others and posting as his own. Odd.

TLG? Always enjoyed his posts on here... :clap: :ayatollah:



Sven, yes i got them of a TLG post, i respect him and knows whats what :thumbright:

Then give the (far more creditable) guy the credit for his own posts rather than posting them as your own...

People are not stupid... :thumbup:

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:20 am

Ninian27 wrote:
Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:
Sven wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Ninian27 wrote:A quick Google reveals that a number of clubs have had larger sums converted from debt to equity in recent years (Fulham = £424 million, Man City = £304 million, Chelsea = £340 million), so it's obviously allowed.

Of course, at Cardiff City the fans have been told their owner can't convert all of his debt to equity due to one set of rules or another. If memory serves, Malaysian financial rules were given as the reason at one stage.


Who did that search for you and posted that before you did?

Neil, the fraud currently masquerading as 'Ninian27' took it from a lesser Forum...

The guy has no shame...! :roll: :oops:


I noticed that too. It's the 9th comment down by TLG. Third time its happened now, just copying from others and posting as his own. Odd.

TLG? Always enjoyed his posts on here... :clap: :ayatollah:



Sven, yes i got them of a TLG post, i respect him and knows whats what :thumbright:


Off not of

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:42 pm

Don't Understand this One at All - Stoke are/can be One Of the riches clubs in this League :?

Bet365 - Are the biggest On Line Betting Company in the UK .

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:57 am

Tan promised he would do the same but we're still waiting..

Re: ‘ Championship Clubs debts wiped out ‘

Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:42 am

nubbsy wrote:Tan promised he would do the same but we're still waiting..



He certainly did Jack, 3 times in the last 12 years.