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CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:46 pm

Meet Professor Ulrich Haas, the German lawyer who's judged on Neymar, Man City, Formula One and holds Cardiff City's fate in his hands

Cardiff City have appealed the first decision by FIFA and the appeal is set to go ahead today and tomorrow.




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Monday 7th March 2022

The German lawyer is set to chair the arbitration panel that will hear Cardiff's appeal in the dispute over the payment of Emiliano Sala's £15m transfer fee

By Tom Coleman

Cardiff City's appeal against a possible transfer ban for failing to pay their first instalment of Emiliano Sala's £15m transfer fee is set to be begin at the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne.



It's one of three big legal cases hanging over the Bluebirds at the moment, with City and Nantes locked in dispute over payments for the Argentine, who was tragically killed in a plane crash over the English Channel back in January 2019.

A key part of the CAS case boils down to who is responsible for the money, Cardiff or Nantes.

FIFA have previously threatened Cardiff with a three-window transfer ban after ordering the Bluebirds to pay the first instalment due on the transfer fee, but City have held firm and have appealed the decision.

They will now make their case in front of a three-man CAS panel.

The chairman of that panel, and the man who perhaps holds the key to Cardiff's fate, is Dr Ulrich Haas.

Haas, who's fluent in four different languages, is a professor of law at the University of Zurich, and has been involved in more than 250 arbitration cases involving a number of governing bodies and other big names.

The German was nominated as an arbitrator for UEFA during their recent dispute with Manchester City over alleged breaches of financial fair play rules, and was on the panel that upheld a transfer ban on Spanish giants Atletico Madrid back in 2017.

Two years ago, he was also arbitrator during a dispute between the UEFA Appeals Body and Paris St Germain, who appealed against a three-match ban handed out to Brazilian star Neymar after he was accused of insulting match officials.

During a career spanning just over 30 years, Dr Haas has largely centred his work and research around international civil procedure (including arbitration), company insolvency law and sports law.

He has edited and published a number of publications in these areas, but perhaps his most important was the World Anti-Doping Code, which he helped draft.

The fight against doping has been a particularly important part of the 57-year-old's career, particularly in the world of cycling, which has been dogged by allegations involving performance-enhancing drugs since the scandal around disgraced rider Lance Armstrong bubbled to the surface.

Dr Haas was co-author of a bombshell report in 2015 that exposed the extent of doping within the sport and was heavily critical of the International Cycling Union.

Prof Haas has also sat in judgement on major Olympics and Formula One cases.

It's fair to say that Cardiff will be dealing with a man well versed in the art of the high-profile dispute, but it will be some time yet before we get a grasp of exactly where things stand.

As part of CAS practice, only Cardiff, Nantes and the members of the arbitration panel will take part in the hearing, meaning we're unlikely to know where things stand until a decision has already been made.

That could, in theory, take a few weeks, meaning it will likely be a little while longer before Cardiff are able to truly move on from one of their most tragic and harrowing of chapters.
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Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:21 pm

The full story right up this case

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Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:29 pm

Hasn't Dalman said that the money has been set aside to pay this should we lose?
Im also under the impression that the CAS decision is final and not appealable, and the case only relates to the first installment and not the whole fee.

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:31 pm

Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:09 am

Forever Blue wrote:Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.


Annis I understand that there is one last appeal available. And that would be a
Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal which is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.­­­ Probably this final appeal would not come under any of the above grounds!

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:22 am

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.


Annis I understand that there is one last appeal available. And that would be a
Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal which is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.­­­ Probably this final appeal would not come under any of the above grounds!

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:24 am

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.


Annis I understand that there is one last appeal available. And that would be a
Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal which is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.­­­ Probably this final appeal would not come under any of the above grounds!



Hi Roger,


I thought this was like having the House of Lords where City lost the original case and we had gone up to the highest.

Ok that might be good, but already our costs are over £2mill and if we lose this and appeal again and lose again, I dread our cost’s.

But I suppose Dalman has stated the money was put aside and did like that in our old accounts.


Personally I would if offered £9mill and never ever paid agents etc etc and what I have heard from the French side Nantes would of accepted.

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:33 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.


Annis I understand that there is one last appeal available. And that would be a
Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal which is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.­­­ Probably this final appeal would not come under any of the above grounds!



Hi Roger,


I thought this was like having the House of Lords where City lost the original case and we had gone up to the highest.

Ok that might be good, but already our costs are over £2mill and if we lose this and appeal again and lose again, I dread our cost’s.

But I suppose Dalman has stated the money was put aside and did like that in our old accounts.


Personally I would if offered £9mill and never ever paid agents etc etc and what I have heard from the French side Nantes would of accepted.

Yes Annis I would have offered the same £9m, but City seem to be convinced they will win, only time will tell :thumbup:

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:44 am

Ninian27 wrote:Hasn't Dalman said that the money has been set aside to pay this should we lose?
Im also under the impression that the CAS decision is final and not appealable, and the case only relates to the first installment and not the whole fee.


That is just nonsense though. Its not as if we have £17 million spare cash in a draw which could be used. Presumably if we win the case the £17 million can be used to sign players for next season if it is available to pay Nantes and not needed.

Re: CAS: THE MAN WHO WILL ARBITRATE CITY V FC NANTES

Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:17 am

Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Even if the case only lasts two days, the decision could be a couple of months just like Isaacs case.

This appeal is like going to the House of Lords, this is the final decision, No matter what.


Annis I understand that there is one last appeal available. And that would be a
Judicial recourse to the Swiss Federal Tribunal which is allowed on a very limited number of grounds, such as lack of jurisdiction, violation of elementary procedural rules (e.g. violation of the right to a fair hearing) or incompatibility with public policy.­­­ Probably this final appeal would not come under any of the above grounds!



Hi Roger,


I thought this was like having the House of Lords where City lost the original case and we had gone up to the highest.

Ok that might be good, but already our costs are over £2mill and if we lose this and appeal again and lose again, I dread our cost’s.

But I suppose Dalman has stated the money was put aside and did like that in our old accounts.


Personally I would if offered £9mill and never ever paid agents etc etc and what I have heard from the French side Nantes would of accepted.

Yes Annis I would have offered the same £9m, but City seem to be convinced they will win, only time will tell :thumbup:



Only time will tell Roger.

Tan has fought about 6 cases since he was the owner and lost everyone, costing our club £millions in expenses.