It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hal

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Ridsdale had pmg over a barrel to get the retail park cardiff stadium had to be built and the club couldn't fold .dave Jones was on a rolling 725k yearly Contract ,Ridsdale 500k, mad money for a club losing 8 milion a year thank god tg and tan came in .

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

He might of made money out of the retail park but the fact is that Hall/pmg bankrolled us and the stadium got built .it was just a dream under Sam.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

He might of made money out of the retail park but the fact is that Hall/pmg bankrolled us and the stadium got built .it was just a dream under Sam.

The dream got started by Sam and the outline planning did.

These were in with the Council and backstabbed Sam and Sam was never going to get it.

Where were they all in the year 2000?

Why did they not invest then?

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

He might of made money out of the retail park but the fact is that Hall/pmg bankrolled us and the stadium got built .it was just a dream under Sam.

The dream got started by Sam and the outline planning did.

These were in with the Council and backstabbed Sam and Sam was never going to get it.

Where were they all in the year 2000?

Why did they not invest then?

I remember Sam couldn't provide funds when the council asked ? They were never going to just hand the land over coz of what happened at Wimbledon

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

He might of made money out of the retail park but the fact is that Hall/pmg bankrolled us and the stadium got built .it was just a dream under Sam.

The dream got started by Sam and the outline planning did.

These were in with the Council and backstabbed Sam and Sam was never going to get it.

Where were they all in the year 2000?

Why did they not invest then?

I remember Sam couldn't provide funds when the council asked ? They were never going to just hand the land over coz of what happened at Wimbledon

Actually they were under Russell Goodway..


Then he suddenly disappeared and the council were all for PMG.

This is exactly what happened.

Sam forced Kav into the helicopter and phoned the Riddler to sort the mess out.
You couldn't make it up.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Very short memory you got annis ,guy ,Hall and Ridsdale basically bailed cardiff city out after sams bad management and got the stadium built, for all of Ridsdales faults he got pmg to bank roll the club and put extra money in from pmg to keep the stadium project on track .

Not short at all Wez,

Riddler never put a penny in and nearly bankrupted us.


Hall and Guy made at least £25mill out of our club.
Pretended to support City , even hit the media to say it.

You forget I was at the meetings and had big words with Hall who said to my face he was doing it for the Blues and could not wait to have them in the stadium.

He might of made money out of the retail park but the fact is that Hall/pmg bankrolled us and the stadium got built .it was just a dream under Sam.

The dream got started by Sam and the outline planning did.

These were in with the Council and backstabbed Sam and Sam was never going to get it.

Where were they all in the year 2000?

Why did they not invest then?

I remember Sam couldn't provide funds when the council asked ? They were never going to just hand the land over coz of what happened at Wimbledon

Actually they were under Russell Goodway..


Then he suddenly disappeared and the council were all for PMG.

This is exactly what happened.

Found this article from the time .
Russell Goodway, Cardiff's Mayor, said the council had commissioned consultants to determine whether its future benefits could justify so great a financial contribution to Hammam's project. He also stressed safeguards: neither Ninian Park nor the current Leckwith athletics stadium can be demolished until the new football and athletics stadiums are built. And, as a condition of the lease, Cardiff City must operate an effective anti-hooliganism policy.

'Hooliganism is absolutely unacceptable,' said Goodway. 'It will be a condition of the lease that if people misbehave we will be able to charge the club rent.' When the outline agreement is signed, the club will have to commission environmental and traffic impact assessments, which can cost up to £1m. Goodway said Hammam had been 'exemplary' in his attitude. Hammam has suggested he will leave if the stadium does not happen, and Cardiff fans have promised to demonstrate in favour of it.

'If the development helps the club to be successful, and Sam Hammam makes money because he owns the club,' said Goodway, 'we actually want that, because it will be good for Cardiff. Our job is to protect the public interest.'

So on another post you say you are fed up of the same old rows with Tan v Sam and then you start another thread which will degenerate into exactly that.

So on another post you say you are fed up of the same old rows with Tan v Sam and then you start another thread which will degenerate into exactly that.

Annis loves a Sam v tan debate

So on another post you say you are fed up of the same old rows with Tan v Sam and then you start another thread which will degenerate into exactly that.

Annis loves a Sam v tan debate

Not what he says in the other thread.

Although he isn’t the only one who changes his mind depending on what thread he’s on.

Barclay recently said Tan is too involved and not bothered at all in two separate threads.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

Tan withdrew the parachute payments and now drip feeds them back in.


The main point on Tan is, he is only reducing the debt he has made himself while at our club, through bad mismanagement.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

You do realise why the relegated clubs get these payments ? It coz the costs are alot higher in the premiership. And its to stop a cliff edge drop in income ,so your argument is a bit of a non starter with using we wouldn't beat ffp if we didn't have these payments coz these payments are always factored in to any budget ,I don't see us this season with a points deduction or in administration due to over spending because of the lack of parachute payments ,the club has cut its cloth accordingly.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

You do realise why the relegated clubs get these payments ? It coz the costs are alot higher in the premiership. And its to stop a cliff edge drop in income ,so your argument is a bit of a non starter with using we wouldn't beat ffp if we didn't have these payments coz these payments are always factored in to any budget ,I don't see us this season with a points deduction or in administration due to over spending because of the lack of parachute payments ,the club has cut its cloth accordingly.

Yes I am quite aware and the bottom line is it to cover Premier wages. Problem I'm having is that we did not exactly give out Premier wages when in the Premier. The Jacks had that Aywe guy on £80K pw, I don't recall us giving that much out.

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

You do realise why the relegated clubs get these payments ? It coz the costs are alot higher in the premiership. And its to stop a cliff edge drop in income ,so your argument is a bit of a non starter with using we wouldn't beat ffp if we didn't have these payments coz these payments are always factored in to any budget ,I don't see us this season with a points deduction or in administration due to over spending because of the lack of parachute payments ,the club has cut its cloth accordingly.

Yes I am quite aware and the bottom line is it to cover Premier wages. Problem I'm having is that we did not exactly give out Premier wages when in the Premier. The Jacks had that Aywe guy on £80K pw, I don't recall us giving that much out.

We paid players most of our players 25 to 50k a week in 2 stints in the premiership our wage bill was close to 60 million ,It was still 40 million plus 1st season we went down recently,hence why clubs get parachute payments .

It’s very weird none of Tans followers mention what Guy, Hall and Temme and of course the Riddler made out of our club and put nothing in it at all???

Fuk me it’s anti tan time again... snore just look at derby. Look at reading.

I've told you on another thread that its Parachute payments why we are not like Derby or Reading.

Not quite true that Ian, cause the club has been very good at keeping to ffp cutting its cloth when needed under Tan.

Those parachute payments help us cut the cloth though. Without them we would have been hit by FFP.

You do realise why the relegated clubs get these payments ? It coz the costs are alot higher in the premiership. And its to stop a cliff edge drop in income ,so your argument is a bit of a non starter with using we wouldn't beat ffp if we didn't have these payments coz these payments are always factored in to any budget ,I don't see us this season with a points deduction or in administration due to over spending because of the lack of parachute payments ,the club has cut its cloth accordingly.

Yes I am quite aware and the bottom line is it to cover Premier wages. Problem I'm having is that we did not exactly give out Premier wages when in the Premier. The Jacks had that Aywe guy on £80K pw, I don't recall us giving that much out.

If we had it would only give you another stick to beat the anti Tan drum with. And don't start with your Tan lover shit, I don't care too much who owns the club as long as we're a viable ongoing operation & not about to drop out of the league as we once were before Sam & we play in blue.