UPDATED: ‘ Vincent Tan v Michael Isaac ‘

Isaac in court today is accusing VT of 'vindictiveness' for diluting share values -


Court case

Vincent Tan v Michael Isaac goes ahead today


Was adjourned last week to try and settle out of court.

This is the case that Tan should win easily. Isaac suing for the devaluation of his shares.


I have personal shares but not not suing.




Isaac trial started today ! Meaning there was no agreement out of court. Not surprised.

Tan has to be 1/10 to win this case, I honestly would be stunned and gobsmacked if Tan lost.

Then it’s the Emiliano Sala case in March


This worries me big time, but Chairman Dalman has repeatedly said the £17mill has been put aside and even told the Trust and twice told the Media.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

We have had DJ, Langston, Riddler. Cases and all had to be paid and Solskjaer settled out of court, £3.5mill.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

We'll have to wait and see who wins what and I think we can all agree that it will be good to see the back of all of these cases no matter what the merits of each one is.

One thing worries or encourages me in equal measure on all of these cases is that it any of them were 100% cast iron either way the court would have given a summary judgment a long time ago (even the Sala CAS appeal would have taken a similar approach as I understand it, although I'm no expert on how the CAS operates). The civil courts do not let cases merrily proceed to expensive trials without there being a case to answer, it's very different to criminal courts.

So no matter who's side we're on there has to be a degree of uncertainty either way.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so Liked why is our stadium less than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

We'll have to wait and see who wins what and I think we can all agree that it will be good to see the back of all of these cases no matter what the merits of each one is.

One thing worries or encourages me in equal measure on all of these cases is that it any of them were 100% cast iron either way the court would have given a summary judgment a long time ago (even the Sala CAS appeal would have taken a similar approach as I understand it, although I'm no expert on how the CAS operates). The civil courts do not let cases merrily proceed to expensive trials without there being a case to answer, it's very different to criminal courts.

So no matter who's side we're on there has to be a degree of uncertainty either way.

I would love to see the back of these cases, but after 12 years of Tans reign it’s been court case after case , never ever have we had so many.


I for one are what’s best for My Club Cardiff City and they are My Priority.

Me personally am sick and tired of court case, court case costing our club millions and never getting resolved after all these years, we must have a problem at board level

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so
Like why is our stadium more than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

Sorry, and I really don't want to argue on a point you and I have argued over before, but MJW isn't 100% wrong.

In your circles I have no doubt the vast majority of your friends/acquaintances will favour Sam's return.

However, there is a very big proportion (I won't say majority because there is no way of you or I knowing that) of the fanbase that don't want Sam anywhere near the finances of our club again.

You may well be correct in saying a lot of them will base their view on what is in the press and that could be challenged. But similarly, you can't expect people just to believe Sam and his supporters (including you) blindly when there is absolutely no evidence to indicate he would do anything different if he was given another chance.

I've been vocal on here about not wanting Sam back. That is purely based on what happened last time and a bit of knowledge I have on some of the financial issues that club faced at the end of Sam's tenure.

Now if Sam was to bring in other investors and, more importantly, put governance structures in place to avoid the pain of Black Friday, selling off all our top players, courts cases, etc., then I might change my tune but at the moment based on my knowledge and previous experience I'm a long way from changing !!!!!!!!

I actually think the club has done well not to turn into a Derby/Reading this season. But, my opposition to Sam is not because I want Tan to stay. If Tan doesn't back Morison with a reasonable level of investment in the summer then I would start to doubt his commitment and would want a change in ownership, however, any new owner would have to be someone with significant funds and be able to safeguard the actual future of our club just like Tan has done.

Whatever your views of Tan, we haven't had the financial extremes of previous owners. Those days were scary and people on here shouldn't forget how worrying they were. Many, many people don't want to go back to those days when the very future of our club was threatened because, believe me, that completely dwarfs any fear of relegation or missing out on a play-off position, etc.

Anyone blindly wishing for Sam to come back as owner without having the same concerns as I have outlined above is just as deluded as you think those anti-Sam posters are. Sam did wake us up as a club and took us to a place where promotion actually became possible, of that there is no doubt. But, similarly, the club would not have progressed as far as it did if Sam had stayed because, at the time, he didn't have the funds to do it. Despite borrowing from himself (Langston) and not being open on that until it came out in court.

I do get the feeling that we'll know a lot more about our future by the summer, but for now, I remain unconvinced that there are other, viable, options willing to take over from Tan.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so
Like why is our stadium more than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

Sorry, and I really don't want to argue on a point you and I have argued over before, but MJW isn't 100% wrong.

In your circles I have no doubt the vast majority of your friends/acquaintances will favour Sam's return.

However, there is a very big proportion (I won't say majority because there is no way of you or I knowing that) of the fanbase that don't want Sam anywhere near the finances of our club again.

You may well be correct in saying a lot of them will base their view on what is in the press and that could be challenged. But similarly, you can't expect people just to believe Sam and his supporters (including you) blindly when there is absolutely no evidence to indicate he would do anything different if he was given another chance.

I've been vocal on here about not wanting Sam back. That is purely based on what happened last time and a bit of knowledge I have on some of the financial issues that club faced at the end of Sam's tenure.

Now if Sam was to bring in other investors and, more importantly, put governance structures in place to avoid the pain of Black Friday, selling off all our top players, courts cases, etc., then I might change my tune but at the moment based on my knowledge and previous experience I'm a long way from changing !!!!!!!!

I actually think the club has done well not to turn into a Derby/Reading this season. But, my opposition to Sam is not because I want Tan to stay. If Tan doesn't back Morison with a reasonable level of investment in the summer then I would start to doubt his commitment and would want a change in ownership, however, any new owner would have to be someone with significant funds and be able to safeguard the actual future of our club just like Tan has done.

Whatever your views of Tan, we haven't had the financial extremes of previous owners. Those days were scary and people on here shouldn't forget how worrying they were. Many, many people don't want to go back to those days when the very future of our club was threatened because, believe me, that completely dwarfs any fear of relegation or missing out on a play-off position, etc.

Anyone blindly wishing for Sam to come back as owner without having the same concerns as I have outlined above is just as deluded as you think those anti-Sam posters are. Sam did wake us up as a club and took us to a place where promotion actually became possible, of that there is no doubt. But, similarly, the club would not have progressed as far as it did if Sam had stayed because, at the time, he didn't have the funds to do it. Despite borrowing from himself (Langston) and not being open on that until it came out in court.

I do get the feeling that we'll know a lot more about our future by the summer, but for now, I remain unconvinced that there are other, viable, options willing to take over from Tan.

And like you I am not going to go through everything regarding Tan after 12 years as i repeated it time and time again.

I will just say this, Sam is way way wealthy than he was years ago and actually better off nowadays than Tan.



Just look at our crowds, position in league, assets??? , Debt, court cases etc February 2022.


As to you being against Sam, how the hell you like Tan and think he is doing a good job, means you must be deluded on that.


I believe like you Summer 2022, We will know a lot lot more

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so Liked why is our stadium more than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

Sorry, and I really don't want to argue on a point you and I have argued over before, but MJW isn't 100% wrong.

In your circles I have no doubt the vast majority of your friends/acquaintances will favour Sam's return.

However, there is a very big proportion (I won't say majority because there is no way of you or I knowing that) of the fanbase that don't want Sam anywhere near the finances of our club again.

You may well be correct in saying a lot of them will base their view on what is in the press and that could be challenged. But similarly, you can't expect people just to believe Sam and his supporters (including you) blindly when there is absolutely no evidence to indicate he would do anything different if he was given another chance.

I've been vocal on here about not wanting Sam back. That is purely based on what happened last time and a bit of knowledge I have on some of the financial issues that club faced at the end of Sam's tenure.

Now if Sam was to bring in other investors and, more importantly, put governance structures in place to avoid the pain of Black Friday, selling off all our top players, courts cases, etc., then I might change my tune but at the moment based on my knowledge and previous experience I'm a long way from changing !!!!!!!!

I actually think the club has done well not to turn into a Derby/Reading this season. But, my opposition to Sam is not because I want Tan to stay. If Tan doesn't back Morison with a reasonable level of investment in the summer then I would start to doubt his commitment and would want a change in ownership, however, any new owner would have to be someone with significant funds and be able to safeguard the actual future of our club just like Tan has done.

Whatever your views of Tan, we haven't had the financial extremes of previous owners. Those days were scary and people on here shouldn't forget how worrying they were. Many, many people don't want to go back to those days when the very future of our club was threatened because, believe me, that completely dwarfs any fear of relegation or missing out on a play-off position, etc.

Anyone blindly wishing for Sam to come back as owner without having the same concerns as I have outlined above is just as deluded as you think those anti-Sam posters are. Sam did wake us up as a club and took us to a place where promotion actually became possible, of that there is no doubt. But, similarly, the club would not have progressed as far as it did if Sam had stayed because, at the time, he didn't have the funds to do it. Despite borrowing from himself (Langston) and not being open on that until it came out in court.

I do get the feeling that we'll know a lot more about our future by the summer, but for now, I remain unconvinced that there are other, viable, options willing to take over from Tan.

I don't see why you think the club has done well to not be a Derby/Reading. Remember we have had 2 Premier payments yet we find ourselves close to a relegation batter. That is the reason we have not had the financial extremes.

As for Sam coming back none of us know his financial status now. However, the fact he has made an offer for the club tells us his financial position must be a lot better than what it was.

i think i might go against both of you with this, but i don't want Sam anywhere near this club again, but i also want Tan gone, so i would like a decent owner for once.

Tan needs to move on and sell, he’s been an embarrassment to our club and brought Shame to our history and identity and we are worse of now than before he came

i think i might go against both of you with this, but i don't want Sam anywhere near this club again, but i also want Tan gone, so i would like a decent owner for once.

I think that's what I said depending on what happens in the summer.

quicker tan and his cronies are gone the quicker i'll put my hand back in my pocket and get a £400 season ticket again and start buying goods from the club, until then he aint getting a penny more of my money.

I was livid with clemo and the riddler but this guy beats them all, absolutely no respect for this club, the people and the culture.

if it meant them going id have sam back, but he'd have to be backed by some decent money men otherwise he'd fail quite quickly too.

quicker tan and his cronies are gone the quicker i'll put my hand back in my pocket and get a £400 season ticket again and start buying goods from the club, until then he aint getting a penny more of my money.

I was livid with clemo and the riddler but this guy beats them all, absolutely no respect for this club, the people and the culture.

if it meant them going id have sam back, but he'd have to be backed by some decent money men otherwise he'd fail quite quickly too.

I'm slightly confused with why you would be happy to give Sam your money and not any of the others mentioned ?

Sam just sold the family silver every season and borrowed off Langston (himself) and then charged significant interest on it.

I have no problem in you not wanting to give your money to the others you mention but I do wonder why it's OK for Sam ?

Tan might well have done the same thing but he hasn't tried to hide it unlike Sam who only revealed who Langston were in front of a judge !!!!

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

Sam's words "I'm good at spending others money"
If Sam comes back I wont step foot in the club till he's gone.

He borrowed money to buy us off a family member.
He borrowed money off Langstone..... Which question marks on too who owned Langstone.
We was minutes from going under and Ridsdale come in. He didn't give much thought about us then.

My opinion, Sam come back as owner it's the beginning of the end of the club.

How anyone in their right mind would want Hammam back quite frankly astonishes me. And I have supported the city for 60 years. Never mind the colour of the shirts I remembet him cotemplating changing our name. I wonder how that would sit with Barclay and his thousands of mates
Just glad Im not one of them

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

Sam's words "I'm good at spending others money"
If Sam comes back I wont step foot in the club till he's gone.

He borrowed money to buy us off a family member.
He borrowed money off Langstone..... Which question marks on too who owned Langstone.
We was minutes from going under and Ridsdale come in. He didn't give much thought about us then.

My opinion, Sam come back as owner it's the beginning of the end of the club.

Great fan you are.

I detest and hate Tan, but I love my club and will never stop supporting them as owners come and go, Cardiff City lives in.

Funny we never nearly had a club before Sam came, league 4. 1,500-4,000 crowds and a stadium falling down.

Beginning of the end of the club, what are you on.

How anyone in their right mind would want Hammam back quite frankly astonishes me. And I have supported the city for 60 years. Never mind the colour of the shirts I remembet him cotemplating changing our name. I wonder how that would sit with Barclay and his thousands of mates
Just glad Im not one of them

Answer straight did he change our name?

Who changed our colour and badge ?



He asked our fans about badge and colour and Valley Rams told him to change badge to St.David’s.
I was fuming with him and never bought a single thing.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

Not sure about that mate.

11,000 crowds when we were bottom half just after Black Friday.

However there would likely be a brief resurgence in interest.

Right reasons? You just making shit up again as per.

Tan and his cronies need to get out of our club, they have destroyed the soul and now we have nothing assists and club struggling season after season.

f**k TAN

You Bluebirds are always divided and fighting each other, you should be like us, united and run your wanker owner out, but thats just you lot money talked and you sold your souls

Remember fellow City fans we are being told we are in the middle of a period of transition, for the 4th year running.


Apparently the aim is to consolidate Champ status then start planning for next year even though we skint, we can put the under 16's on

How anyone in their right mind would want Hammam back quite frankly astonishes me. And I have supported the city for 60 years. Never mind the colour of the shirts I remembet him cotemplating changing our name. I wonder how that would sit with Barclay and his thousands of mates
Just glad Im not one of them

Answer straight did he change our name?

Who changed our colour and badge ?



He asked our fans about badge and colour and Valley Rams told him to change badge to St.David’s.
I was fuming with him and never bought a single thing.

Still waiting for the answers??????

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so Liked why is our stadium less than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

According to this, our crowds are bigger under Tan than Sam.
http://european-football-statistics.co. ... e/carc.htm

Our highest average attendance under Sam was 15,569. Our lowest average attendance under Tan is 16,463 and the current season we’re getting just over 18,000 on average.

May 2022:

Vincent Tan v Sam Hammam case

This is about Tan signing over Life Presidency and many other things to Sam Hammam, instead of giving all the money that he was ordered to pay a few years ago and personally signed to it.

Can not go in to discussion with this before the case, but I 100% expect Tan to lose without a doubt in what I read and saw.

I know nothing of the case, but in my opinion this is the case that could shape Cardiff City over the next few years.

Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times.

Tan wins, and I will have to reluctantly accept that Sam will not return, and, more worryingly, in my opinion, we will see a continuation of stagnation, zero communication and more court cases.

If Sam returns I can safely safe there will be more unhappy fans than over the rebrand. Tan is by far the better owner and I do not trust Hammam one bit, especially over those dodgy looking Langston loans.

I can 100% say your totally wrong.

Tan is hated by everyone I know and I know thousands.


If Tan is so Liked why is our stadium less than half full?

You actually know NO facts, only media reports which are what Dalman etc what them to say.

According to this, our crowds are bigger under Tan than Sam.
http://european-football-statistics.co. ... e/carc.htm

Our highest average attendance under Sam was 15,569. Our lowest average attendance under Tan is 16,463 and the current season we’re getting just over 18,000 on average.

We have a new joker here, how the hell can you say this when you are comparing Ninian Park to CCS?

Sam was in Ninian Park, capacity 20,000 and in the lower divisions with Cardiff City and brought them up.

City have been in only the higher leagues, since Sam left them there.

The crowds are falling rapidly now.

Tan never started with crowds of 4,000, he started with City already at Wembley and high crowds.


Are you seriously comparing stadium and leagues, you have to be the joker of the year

And our crowds have only grown since Sam started the dream.

We were league 4.

"Sam wins? Then I hope we have seen the back of Tan and it will herald a Sam return. Not everyone's cup of tea, but you an be sure you'll want to go to games again whether we win,lose or draw. Also guaranteed we will be in the news for the right reasons, as we can start to look forward to exciting times."

I can see Dalman wacking Sam and chasing him out the stadium.

If Hammam wins and takes one foot inside the stadium of the club he financially tried to ruin - he will get lynched - no matter what body guards and security the little pipsqueak has hired to protect him.