Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:32 pm
Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:46 pm
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:01 pm
theclaw wrote:For me Morison should be given a longer contract right now,yes he is making some mistakes but overall has done well and I believe he will get better.
Imagine he steers us to safety and someone else offers him a job at the end of the season.
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:35 pm
Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:18 pm
llan bluebird wrote:i would be very cautious giving Morison the job for longer.
Still unsure if the sum the parts are greater than the individuals. Drameh and especially Doyle look ready made premier league players now, Wintle is far better than Pack, and the two big lads are at least as good as Moore and Collins (as a pair)
I believe we need and out and out technical coach, shame the Gargoyle went to forest, but that type.
Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:44 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:llan bluebird wrote:i would be very cautious giving Morison the job for longer.
Still unsure if the sum the parts are greater than the individuals. Drameh and especially Doyle look ready made premier league players now, Wintle is far better than Pack, and the two big lads are at least as good as Moore and Collins (as a pair)
I believe we need and out and out technical coach, shame the Gargoyle went to forest, but that type.
The Gargoyle![]()
I agree.
You’ve probably been Morisons biggest critic on here whilst I think he’s done really well with all things considered.
Saying that, I think we should definitely wait until the end of the season before making a decision - which I believe the club will.
Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:53 pm
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:25 am
Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:46 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I want Morison to have his contract extended, but don't think it should happen until the season ends.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:49 am
Blue78 wrote:theclaw wrote:For me Morison should be given a longer contract right now,yes he is making some mistakes but overall has done well and I believe he will get better.
Imagine he steers us to safety and someone else offers him a job at the end of the season.
We did that with Mick and look what happened. Let’s just wait and see what happens.
Great performance today, but we means nothing if we don’t beat Peterborough on Wednesday.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:20 am
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:22 am
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:35 am
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:43 am
nubbsy wrote:Blue78 wrote:theclaw wrote:For me Morison should be given a longer contract right now,yes he is making some mistakes but overall has done well and I believe he will get better.
Imagine he steers us to safety and someone else offers him a job at the end of the season.
We did that with Mick and look what happened. Let’s just wait and see what happens.
Great performance today, but we means nothing if we don’t beat Peterborough on Wednesday.
Exactly. Let's see if he can do the job he was brought in to do first - keep us up! If he does that and we have a decent finish to the season it would be hard to argue against giving him a contract.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:44 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:I want Morison to have his contract extended, but don't think it should happen until the season ends.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:01 am
mjw6150 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I want Morison to have his contract extended, but don't think it should happen until the season ends.
Will make it very hard to retain and persuade new players if the manager situation is uncertain. The job Morison has done is under rated IMO, definitely deserves a new contract.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:02 am
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:00 pm
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:26 pm
llan bluebird wrote:This is a multi million pound industry and up until three months ago we basically used the same structure as we have for the last 120 years.
The football manager used to be the general manager. I remember reading that Cloughie (the greatest ever) used to order the pies and negotiate service contract with their suppliers, that was only taken from him in the 80's.
Managers have caused our boom and bust. We should never employ a manager again.
Tan should find someone he trusts to run the football side of the business as that is our core competence and purpose for being. He (the DoF) should recruit the first team head coach and head of the academy, the u23 should be an extension of that.
The head coach should recruit his team of coaches.
The recruitment team should be looking at players from all over with their network of scouts and analytics. The Dof and the finance guy should be the only ones buying or selling players.
This is one of my main hobby horse. Before we look at Steve Morison, Tan needs to work out what we are doing and if Dalman and Choo are doing anything remotely worthwhile. I don't think they are. You will always need a finance guy, whether that is a full time position i don't know.But, A DoF is paramount.
Another point, the manager in the strongest position in football is probably Klopp and he doesn't buy or even identify players. He has final say but doesn't get involved in deal making. Then look at our history and wonder why we are in this position again.
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:42 pm
Sven wrote:llan bluebird wrote:This is a multi million pound industry and up until three months ago we basically used the same structure as we have for the last 120 years.
The football manager used to be the general manager. I remember reading that Cloughie (the greatest ever) used to order the pies and negotiate service contract with their suppliers, that was only taken from him in the 80's.
Managers have caused our boom and bust. We should never employ a manager again.
Tan should find someone he trusts to run the football side of the business as that is our core competence and purpose for being. He (the DoF) should recruit the first team head coach and head of the academy, the u23 should be an extension of that.
The head coach should recruit his team of coaches.
The recruitment team should be looking at players from all over with their network of scouts and analytics. The Dof and the finance guy should be the only ones buying or selling players.
This is one of my main hobby horse. Before we look at Steve Morison, Tan needs to work out what we are doing and if Dalman and Choo are doing anything remotely worthwhile. I don't think they are. You will always need a finance guy, whether that is a full time position i don't know.But, A DoF is paramount.
Another point, the manager in the strongest position in football is probably Klopp and he doesn't buy or even identify players. He has final say but doesn't get involved in deal making. Then look at our history and wonder why we are in this position again.
That, Dave, is another class post amongst many from you and I completely agree![]()
So long as the (shall we now call him) 'First Team Coach' has some input on the personnel (or type of) he wants, I think it should be the way forward
Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:58 pm
theclaw wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I want Morison to have his contract extended, but don't think it should happen until the season ends.
Why wait,doesn’t make sense to me.
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:35 am
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:42 am
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:I think we'll be ok.
This January we said no money but we still brought players in (whether it was on the Moore money we don't know for sure)
The money we save on some of the wages of the out of contract players could go on frees and loans again
We'll have bodies in but it's a case of will they be good enough to push us up the table
Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:45 am
llan bluebird wrote:Sven wrote:llan bluebird wrote:This is a multi million pound industry and up until three months ago we basically used the same structure as we have for the last 120 years.
The football manager used to be the general manager. I remember reading that Cloughie (the greatest ever) used to order the pies and negotiate service contract with their suppliers, that was only taken from him in the 80's.
Managers have caused our boom and bust. We should never employ a manager again.
Tan should find someone he trusts to run the football side of the business as that is our core competence and purpose for being. He (the DoF) should recruit the first team head coach and head of the academy, the u23 should be an extension of that.
The head coach should recruit his team of coaches.
The recruitment team should be looking at players from all over with their network of scouts and analytics. The Dof and the finance guy should be the only ones buying or selling players.
This is one of my main hobby horse. Before we look at Steve Morison, Tan needs to work out what we are doing and if Dalman and Choo are doing anything remotely worthwhile. I don't think they are. You will always need a finance guy, whether that is a full time position i don't know.But, A DoF is paramount.
Another point, the manager in the strongest position in football is probably Klopp and he doesn't buy or even identify players. He has final say but doesn't get involved in deal making. Then look at our history and wonder why we are in this position again.
That, Dave, is another class post amongst many from you and I completely agree![]()
So long as the (shall we now call him) 'First Team Coach' has some input on the personnel (or type of) he wants, I think it should be the way forward
I would love the DoF to be Craig Bellamy. We need someone with vision and a plan. The prospective first team coach interviewee's would have to convince Craig he has the same vision and passion. He could still lace up his boots with the academy if he wants