Where are you taking us?

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They dont really care where we go, they'll leave us floating aimlessly in whatever league we end up while Tan is in charge.

Gotta go...JUST GOTTA GO!

They dont really care where we go, they'll leave us floating aimlessly in whatever league we end up while Tan is in charge.

Gotta go...JUST GOTTA GO!

Statements like that are where you lose the plot...!

Of course they (Tan particularly) 'care' and to say otherwise does him/them a disservice; but sadly, you have little credibility on the subject with which to barter any real case...

Like him or not, Vincent Tan has ploughed a lot of money into our club and much of that against a tide of anti-ism based on one specific early 'mistake' that has blinded some to the bigger picture

That it hasn't worked out is partly down to Tan himself but (IMHO) he has tried and with better people around him, he might have succeeded

The rest is down to poor company management by his employees (the politician and his managerial choices in particular) and the aforementioned and verhement vocal 'anti-ism' of those who have minds similar to life-long Welsh Labour voters, i.e. "I'm not sure why I do it, I just know I should!"

If you're going to continue to spout your rhetoric, at least make it credible by mixing it with a little fact-based truth rather than thoughts that are put in your head by others

With full respect, to do otherwise simply demeans anything you try to say...

Boxing Day 2019 was a 1-1 draw with Millwall. It was Neil Harris’ 8th game in charge and he’d won 4, drawn 3, lost 1. We’d climbed from 16th place up to 11th and finished in the play offs.

4 steps forward and 10 steps back?

Sven,

A very stable, honest and considered reply of course and if I was to take off my rose tinted specs, I may be forced to agree on certain points.

At this point I simply can't get to a point to say Tan 'Cares' because it then somehow gives him a mandate to carry on what he is doing without showing his face and making other people accountable.

You'll be aware that engagement nd rapport and the building of a relationship isn't actually what you give to others it's how you make them feel. It walks in but leaves on a steam train.

I've been engaged with Cardiff City for nearly 50 years. If they ever did things wrong and more often than not they did, I'd still be there the following game, home or away, because the engagement was strong. Now? Well... I got my Bournemouth tix for me and my boys, I'll support the team on the pitch but any engagement with the club is really stretching the sinews.

Sven,

A very stable, honest and considered reply of course and if I was to take off my rose tinted specs, I may be forced to agree on certain points.

At this point I simply can't get to a point to say Tan 'Cares' because it then somehow gives him a mandate to carry on what he is doing without showing his face and making other people accountable.

You'll be aware that engagement nd rapport and the building of a relationship isn't actually what you give to others it's how you make them feel. It walks in but leaves on a steam train.

I've been engaged with Cardiff City for nearly 50 years. If they ever did things wrong and more often than not they did, I'd still be there the following game, home or away, because the engagement was strong. Now? Well... I got my Bournemouth tix for me and my boys, I'll support the team on the pitch but any engagement with the club is really stretching the sinews.

Over the half century for me, so I feel your pain; but to say Tan 'doesn't care' cannot be right or he would have pulled the plug well before now

However, I will agree I don't know what his 'plan' is for the future

Some better placed than me insist the club is up for sale, others say Tan intends to 'see it out'

Whichever way it is, he continues to keep the club afloat against some pretty hostile environments from both a financial and personal (fans) front

Let's keep the 'Tan knocking' to the known facts rather than using every single thing that occurs as a stick with which to beat him

It's simply not right, not proper and erodes the impact of any genuine criticisms when they come along

Tan ain't perfect; but then again neither are any of us