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CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:08 pm

“CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT / AFTER YEARS OF GETTING IT WRONG” SAYS BELLAMY

Interview by Scott Johnson


Thursday 24th December 2021


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CRAIG BELLAMY:

“If you take the current situation at the club as a case study, Cardiff are heading towards the summer with nine senior players heading out of contract. Most of which are currently key players and all potentially leaving in one hit. You can look at it in one of two ways. It’s either a golden opportunity for a reboot, on and off the field, while promoting the youngsters. Alternatively, are you burdening these kids with too much expectation and responsibility as a result of poor planning? Is the ideal scenario to keep some and promote some, keeping some continuity and a bit of a mix? If we were talking about Anderlecht, who scout really well and have a plan, then I would say let’s start again, but I don’t have faith in Cardiff finding a way to make it work.”




“I see this as the best opportunity that Cardiff have ever had. People panic or worry and I understand that, but from a football perspective, this is the ideal chance to get your house in order. I see it as exciting. This could be one of the best things that has ever happened to Cardiff City, if you do it right. Until now, Cardiff have done it wrong and for years now they have wasted so much money. You can tell that by the fact that they have nine players heading out of contract in the first place. So, there’s a problem, but we cannot get ourselves in this position again. What are we going to do about it?”



“You could spend the savings you make on the recruitment department and get the best people in. People who can recruit well and have the best databases. I know someone that owns a database; Vincent Kompany! The number of players I’ve scouted over the last couple of years, in every league going, they’re out there. Cardiff could get players ahead of Anderlecht.”


“ The Championship is more appealing than the Pro League because it’s one step away from the Premier League and that’s where everyone wants to play. When Cardiff got promoted a few years ago, they were one of the oldest teams in the league, but you need to have a low average age. You need to recruit well and have an identity for the way you play.“


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Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:06 pm

No argument there.

Let's just pray we survive this season and start rebooting ourselves. Only real problem I see is do we have the right people in place to get it right?

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:08 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:No argument there.

Let's just pray we survive this season and start rebooting ourselves. Only real problem I see is do we have the right people in place to get it right?



Ian,

Bells is spot on, but as you say the problem is the people running our club.

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:43 pm

Forever Blue wrote:“CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT / AFTER YEARS OF GETTING IT WRONG” SAYS BELLAMY

Interview by Scott Johnson


Thursday 24th December 2021


viewtopic.php?f=2&t=225292



CRAIG BELLAMY:

“If you take the current situation at the club as a case study, Cardiff are heading towards the summer with nine senior players heading out of contract. Most of which are currently key players and all potentially leaving in one hit. You can look at it in one of two ways. It’s either a golden opportunity for a reboot, on and off the field, while promoting the youngsters. Alternatively, are you burdening these kids with too much expectation and responsibility as a result of poor planning? Is the ideal scenario to keep some and promote some, keeping some continuity and a bit of a mix? If we were talking about Anderlecht, who scout really well and have a plan, then I would say let’s start again, but I don’t have faith in Cardiff finding a way to make it work.”




“I see this as the best opportunity that Cardiff have ever had. People panic or worry and I understand that, but from a football perspective, this is the ideal chance to get your house in order. I see it as exciting. This could be one of the best things that has ever happened to Cardiff City, if you do it right. Until now, Cardiff have done it wrong and for years now they have wasted so much money. You can tell that by the fact that they have nine players heading out of contract in the first place. So, there’s a problem, but we cannot get ourselves in this position again. What are we going to do about it?”



“You could spend the savings you make on the recruitment department and get the best people in. People who can recruit well and have the best databases. I know someone that owns a database; Vincent Kompany! The number of players I’ve scouted over the last couple of years, in every league going, they’re out there. Cardiff could get players ahead of Anderlecht.”


“ The Championship is more appealing than the Pro League because it’s one step away from the Premier League and that’s where everyone wants to play. When Cardiff got promoted a few years ago, they were one of the oldest teams in the league, but you need to have a low average age. You need to recruit well and have an identity for the way you play.“


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A very interesting read, I certainly like the fact that the very much laughed at idea a 'Football Manager' type of database is unrealistic to work from? Then think again. All the top clubs have it. I haven't played that game for years :laughing6:

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:48 pm

You can't group midfielders together with no pace. These kinda scenarios have to stop. Buying player's only from 'club friendly' agents and agencies, although is a cheaper option, should discontinue. Merry Christmas :bluescarf:

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:18 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:No argument there.

Let's just pray we survive this season and start rebooting ourselves. Only real problem I see is do we have the right people in place to get it right?



Ian,

Bells is spot on, but as you say the problem is the people running our club.


Agree :bluebird:

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:47 pm

I've been waiting for city to "get it right " since I started support ING them in 1975. Established as a top flight club and a major trophy in the Cabinet .I'm not holding my breath.

The Future

Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:12 pm

After reading Bellamys short article on recruiting players here's my view of where we should be going
This is an excellent summary of one arm of what we should be doing. Firstly scouting players like this , our own kids right through to academy, scouring non league and lower leagues for youngsters and paying good money for proven players who would fit in, in the right positions rather than 5 center halfs and doubling up on midfielders with no pace. We need a director of football desperately to organise all this as it is a massive amount of work and it is continual from soccer schools at the leisure centre to identifying millions of pounds worth of players.
Some of the mistakes over the last ten years have been terrible Cornealius, Pack name but two.
No one is going to get it right all the time look at West Brom paying 7million for Zahore! But look at the Brighton reserves we played in the league cup, the players Southampton have sold for 100s of millions and are still in the premier league. Leicester premiership and ya cup winners. They've all got systems that are medium to long term looking and get rewarded for it. We've got zilch long term planning. Look how we recruit managers , the amount of awful appointments there is staggering. Why have we got a football committee that knows nothing about football!! When ken Choo got on the coach to go to Swansea and got applauded for saying he was grateful for the support , he should have been booed not supported as he and dalman have no plan . Tan should step in here as those two aren't fit for purpose and recruit someone to organise all this so we have recruitment structures in place for all and for different scenarios not just buy any old soak and Chuck the kids in, which is where we are at now! Children could do better !

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:51 am

Bellers is right :thumbup:

Sadly, the current regime wouldn't have the balls to even try to recruit him as the man to do it; not that he would listen to them :(

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:14 am

Sven wrote:Bellers is right :thumbup:

Sadly, the current regime wouldn't have the balls to even try to recruit him as the man to do it; not that he would listen to them :(


Bells is so right Chris :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


But as you say the current regime, No balls and clueless and seem to be running our club in to the ground :cry: :cry: :cry:

Re: CARDIFF NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT/ AFTER YEARS

Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:16 am

I had posted many many times on here Craig Bellamy never got paid a penny for his two years in helping Cardiff City’s Accademy.
:bluebird: :bluebird:
In 2017-18, Craig Bellamy got involved with the Academy kids at Cardiff from the age of 5 right up to the U23 Squad.

We never saw any players making it for nearly 10 years, for me Bellamy’s input for those two years and revamping the Academy is thankfully why we have finally 3-4 players finally on the verge of making it and Bells did it all for FREE :thumbright: :bluebird:


Tuesday 21st December 2021


Thanks to Scott Johnson’s interview :bluebird:



CRAIG BELLAMY:

“After I retired, I wanted to take a year out. I had a great summer and I was finally able to go on holiday while the kids were off school. It got to around October, start of November and Borley got in contact with me.”

“I know Steve very well and he asked if I would be interested in helping the academy as a sort of mentor.”

“I knew I wanted to go in to coaching eventually, but I wasn’t sure what I wanted to be doing, so I said I would have a look to see what it was like.”

“Then for a year or two, with my own free time, I was there three or four days a week. I never got paid.”




“There are good players in Cardiff and always have been. A lot of us had to move away because there was nothing in place at the time, but growing up in Trowbridge, there were so many good footballers. When I was there, Trowbridge Juniors won the cup and this is a school with about 200 kids, if that.”


“How is that possible?! It wasn’t just me, I had good players with me and I played against loads of talented, young players. I believe we haven’t ever made the most of that.

“There are some kids that haven’t got the support network to get them from A to B. That can’t be their fault, so what are we going to do about it? “

“I don’t like the thought of kids missing out because they can’t afford to play. Football should always be free and enjoyed by everyone.”

“Some parents can’t afford it and they’re getting penalised. Over the years, it’s got better, but we’re still nowhere near where we need to be and we’ve hugely let this area down.”

“There will always be one or two that gets through, if you’re exceptionally talented. I know Aaron Ramsey really well and he’s got good parents. Not every kid has, but we shouldn’t lose or penalise them because of that. They should get the same opportunities as everyone else, but we have to put more effort in. I’ve never seen anyone as talented as Leon Jeanne, but he didn’t have the right network around him.”

“We should know about everything. What are these kids like in school? If there’s a problem in school, ring me and we’ll take football away from them if we have to. Football is a privilege that you have to earn. If you’re going to misbehave and think you’ll get away with it, that is not going to happen.”

“People won’t like it and some parents think their kids are never wrong. We have to be on the ball and if we get it right, you have a massive pool of potentially brilliant players and not all clubs have that luxury.”







What roles did you fulfil at the academy while you were there?


“I was helping with all age groups. I would spend a day a week with the five, six and seven-year-olds. I learnt a lot from it, like the importance of your tone of voice.” I was quite attached to a lot of them and I really enjoyed it. That was my favourite day of the week, with the youngest age groups. It was fun and I learnt the most from them. On the other days, I would be with the Under-18’s, the Under-23’s, the Under-12 and 13’s, so dipping in and out of everything.”

“I wanted us to play a certain way. Not a certain formation because they can change and you need to be flexible. What is our identity and what do we stand for? Are we a long ball team because if we are, we’ll do it through all the age groups. I believe that if you’re going to coach young footballers, they need to be able to play with the ball at their feet because the more they have of the ball, the more decisions they’re going to make. The more decisions they make, the better players they’ll become. If we want to be lazy, we can man-mark everywhere, but what does that prove? Anyone can do that. Turn and hit it long is also easy to do. It’s beyond lazy coaching, but managers have had good careers off the back of that.”





Was there an identity already in place, or were you brought in to try and establish one?

“It’s not like I came in and created one, the academy wanted to change. What type of players can we produce? We decided we were going to build from the back, press high and be aggressive in duals. This is how I like the game, but we need to have the ball to have options. If you haven’t got the ball, how are you going to improve? I want to produce top players because they will be worth more and for the club to make a profit, but you’ve got to put the time in. I was taught the game this way at Norwich, who had one of the top academies in the UK. I had talent, but I was also coached well.”
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Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:31 pm

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