‘ Drakeford overeaction to omnicom strain ‘

these figures are from the uk govt website yoday:

total new cases 91,743


deaths 44 ( these are deaths from people who have tested positive within last 21 days Not those who have actually died from covid..the govt does not publish this info!)


number in hospital is down 133 from the previous day.


the south african health minister where this variant comes from has repeatably said this new strain is very very mild with symptoms similar to common cold is over in about 5 days.


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By doing this Drakeford is effectively saying

1. Vaccinations and boosters are a waste of time. They won't allow you the freedoms you were promised and won't protect you as they said they would.
2. Vaccine passports have been a failure.
3. The WAG can do whatever it wants without having to produce any medical or scientific evidence for what it chooses to impose on the Welsh population
4. Can there be any more evidence that they really do not give a flying f**k about the mental well being of thousands of people in the country they purport to represent?

Anybody who thinks this has anything to do with a virus that continues to cause less deaths and hospitalisations than annual flu despite their flawed modelling and guesswork needs to have a serious word with themselves.

This isn't Drakeford, this is wag as a whole. There is a 1% chance that their core voters will remember any of this by the next election. When its likely the big cheese will be Gethin who is drakey on steroids.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

A positive case today is a potential hospital admission in a couple of weeks- that's what they are trying to limit. If cases continue to grow exponentially then admissions could reflect that in the new year.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

So England is a week further in to the Omnicron variant than us but Wales is a week behind England on the booster rollout? What am I missing here?

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

So England is a week further in to the Omnicron variant than us but Wales is a week behind England on the booster rollout? What am I missing here?

You're missing the backlash from people if Boris tries to limit families from meeting up. It's pointless him announcing that because people are so angry with all the rule breaking that went on, that people will ignore it. It's pointless him closing hospitality, as people are choosing themselves anyway to stay away and if the government close it they'll have to reintroduce furlough.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

So England is a week further in to the Omnicron variant than us but Wales is a week behind England on the booster rollout? What am I missing here?

I'm not sure you are missing anything here.

If you remember Wales was really slow in getting the vaccinations up and running back in Jan/Feb time but very quickly outstripped the other home nations in the proportion of population offered/delivered jabs.

UK and Welsh Governments are still working on all population being offered by end of December. If that target is met it will mean that Wales will be ahead of the game compared to England as they took measures to reduce transmission earlier and delivered the boosters meaning they will have made good use of that 7-10 day lag for omnicron.

I can give an example I know of a 24 year old colleague being called for a jab at 6.00am in the morning on 30th December down the Bay !! Pretty clear evidence that it won't be far off a 24/7 operation in the next week or so.

All the governments and scientists know that the only long-term solution is the booster and anything they do now is just about holding back on the infection rate for as long as they can whilst they get the jabs in the arms.

these figures are from the uk govt website yoday:

total new cases 91,743


deaths 44 ( these are deaths from people who have tested positive within last 21 days Not those who have actually died from covid..the govt does not publish this info!)


number in hospital is down 133 from the previous day.


the south african health minister where this variant comes from has repeatably said this new strain is very very mild with symptoms similar to common cold is over in about 5 days.


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England are about four weeks ahead on Onicrom due the numbers of flights in and out of London despite this there is no panic yet as their NHS is in a much better condition and they don't run at 90% bed capacity. The reason the Welsh Government is over cautious because it will take a much lower increase in hospitalisations to expose the state of our NHS. We only have a few hundred cases we should have been a position to cope with this easily.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

You can't compare England have massive numbers and have held firm, Wales have miniscule numbers and are in a total state of panic, it's because our NHS is fragile and and England's is a lot more resilient and runs at lower capacity!

I think

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Numbers ARE low currently in hospital, the issue is they could and probably will raise as time goes on. Already wards are running on low staffing levels due to Omnicron apparently bypassing the jabs which means patient care could be jeopardised. WAST are expecting a huge increase in cases over the next 4-6 weeks but are expecting numbers to decrease just as fast due to the lesser symptoms.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

You can't compare England have massive numbers and have held firm, Wales have miniscule numbers and are in a total state of panic, it's because our NHS is fragile and and England's is a lot more resilient and runs at lower capacity!

Are you serious

Wales NHS is fragile but so too is that of England. In the other peaks we actually had a lower Intensive Care bed occupancy than England !!!!

England have far from held firm. At one point patients in London were being transported across the country as there weren't enough beds in their local area.

There is panic in Wales Gov, you are correct. But that is because they know that as they have a 7-10 day advantage on this new variant if they don't make the most of that and hold down transmission as much as they can until boosters are in arms they will be, rightly, criticised.

Boris wants to take the same measures but can't get it past his own party yet.

Excluding the FA Cup game.
We have home games on 15 and 30th January.
If everyone gets boosterd ASAP allowing for the vaccine kick in period of 14 days we could be back in for the game on the 30th

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

You can't compare England have massive numbers and have held firm, Wales have miniscule numbers and are in a total state of panic, it's because our NHS is fragile and and England's is a lot more resilient and runs at lower capacity!

Are you serious

Wales NHS is fragile but so too is that of England. In the other peaks we actually had a lower Intensive Care bed occupancy than England !!!!

England have far from held firm. At one point patients in London were being transported across the country as there weren't enough beds in their local area.

There is panic in Wales Gov, you are correct. But that is because they know that as they have a 7-10 day advantage on this new variant if they don't make the most of that and hold down transmission as much as they can until boosters are in arms they will be, rightly, criticised.

Boris wants to take the same measures but can't get it past his own party yet.

Nonsense, Wales has much less capacity, hence the panic!

Boris is a libertarian, he won't want measures or lockdowns if possible, but be the Prime minister he sometimes has to go against his instinct, he can get anything through his own party if he wants as labour vote for lockdowns and pay people to stay at home from the magic money tree every time.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

You can't compare England have massive numbers and have held firm, Wales have miniscule numbers and are in a total state of panic, it's because our NHS is fragile and and England's is a lot more resilient and runs at lower capacity!

Are you serious

Wales NHS is fragile but so too is that of England. In the other peaks we actually had a lower Intensive Care bed occupancy than England !!!!

England have far from held firm. At one point patients in London were being transported across the country as there weren't enough beds in their local area.

There is panic in Wales Gov, you are correct. But that is because they know that as they have a 7-10 day advantage on this new variant if they don't make the most of that and hold down transmission as much as they can until boosters are in arms they will be, rightly, criticised.

Boris wants to take the same measures but can't get it past his own party yet.

Nonsense, Wales has much less capacity, hence the panic!

Boris is a libertarian, he won't want measures or lockdowns if possible, but be the Prime minister he sometimes has to go against his instinct, he can get anything through his own party if he wants as labour vote for lockdowns and pay people to stay at home from the magic money tree every time.

Proportionately Wales had more ICU beds available in the last peak than England.

Boris would have done exactly the same if he wasn't being bullied by his back benchers. The South African evidence is usless when you realise the average age of their population is less than half of ours.

Not only would Boris have done the same, I think you'll find that he will do the same and announce it on Thursday or Friday when there will be absolutely no option.

The Premier League know that too, that's why they haven't cancelled the program of games because if the Government make that decision they're in a better position in negotiating with the broadcasters.

The problem is that actually, Boris should have made the decision, that Drakeford made yesterday, a week or so ago because England is about 7-10 days ahead of Wales in terms of Omnicron variant. At least the pubs and businesses in Wales can now make plans for the new guidelines as he's already outlined some of the likely measures like table service, groups of 6, etc.

Then, if they do deliver on everyone being offered a booster by end of December, they can, hopefully, look to ease again quite quickly maybe even half way through January.

You can't compare England have massive numbers and have held firm, Wales have miniscule numbers and are in a total state of panic, it's because our NHS is fragile and and England's is a lot more resilient and runs at lower capacity!

Are you serious

Wales NHS is fragile but so too is that of England. In the other peaks we actually had a lower Intensive Care bed occupancy than England !!!!

England have far from held firm. At one point patients in London were being transported across the country as there weren't enough beds in their local area.

There is panic in Wales Gov, you are correct. But that is because they know that as they have a 7-10 day advantage on this new variant if they don't make the most of that and hold down transmission as much as they can until boosters are in arms they will be, rightly, criticised.

Boris wants to take the same measures but can't get it past his own party yet.

Nonsense, Wales has much less capacity, hence the panic!

Boris is a libertarian, he won't want measures or lockdowns if possible, but be the Prime minister he sometimes has to go against his instinct, he can get anything through his own party if he wants as labour vote for lockdowns and pay people to stay at home from the magic money tree every time.

Proportionately Wales had more ICU beds available in the last peak than England.

I don't think that's true?

Even if that was the case it's because Wales locked down longer and harder because they were terrified and the reason being we run on low capacity under normal circumstances even before Covid-19. Don't forget when people were drinking and carry on as normal in England we were locked down and unable to travel more than five miles, and the reason is fear that our poor NHS will become overwhelmed very quickly!

Scotland follow along with wales and table service in pubs

Jimmy Krankie allowing 500 people into football matches in Scotland.

Wonder if the OP still thinks that Drakeford is over-reacting with the restrictions, or is the balance now more that Boris is under-reacting?

The Blokes a complete merchant banker just like all our bought and paid for politicians.

They are destroying the west its all been planned.

Stop calling him Boris - to be civil call him by his surname - like you would for every other politician. There are many other things I would like to call him - clown and buffoon being the most polite!

Jimmy Krankie allowing 500 people into football matches in Scotland.

Full capacity for all apart from Celtic and Rangers then.

For me Drakeford is a charlatan who claims knowledge that quite simply doesn't exist. Like at the weekend he said the WAG cabinet would be reviewing advice on "How Omicron spreads in outdoor settings" Hands up those who believe it exists beyond yet another model by Swansea University which will be nothing better than a "Best Guess". In January Drakeford put a graph of another model by Swansea University on the "Likely outcome of Delta". It predicted a further 8,000 deaths between January and March this year.

Today we have the outcome of the review which is sport behind closed doors without supplying any science based evidence to support it. But hey ho out comes the power of 3 Mantra of "Keeping Wales Safe" and people lap it up.

Having said that who knows if he is right or wrong I know I don't and I firmly believe he doesn't but we will all know more in the next 3-4 weeks. One thing we absolutely know is that infection rates throughout the UK are highest in schoolchildren between 5-11 years of age, 8 times higher than in over 75's. But Mr Drakeford has decided to just give Headmasters 2 days in the new year to draw up plans. Really.

How about action from Government to sort out ventilation in classrooms we can spend £b's on shutting down business with no exit plan from the cycle of opening and closing the economy. Right now in my opinion there is more to be gained with sorting out ventilation / filtration in school classrooms than handing out £m's on actions that are not guaranteed to resolve the lockdown cycle.

Jimmy Krankie allowing 500 people into football matches in Scotland.

Full capacity for all apart from Celtic and Rangers then.

Aye just about.

For me Drakeford is a charlatan who claims knowledge that quite simply doesn't exist. Like at the weekend he said the WAG cabinet would be reviewing advice on "How Omicron spreads in outdoor settings" Hands up those who believe it exists beyond yet another model by Swansea University which will be nothing better than a "Best Guess". In January Drakeford put a graph of another model by Swansea University on the "Likely outcome of Delta". It predicted a further 8,000 deaths between January and March this year.

Today we have the outcome of the review which is sport behind closed doors without supplying any science based evidence to support it. But hey ho out comes the power of 3 Mantra of "Keeping Wales Safe" and people lap it up.

Having said that who knows if he is right or wrong I know I don't and I firmly believe he doesn't but we will all know more in the next 3-4 weeks. One thing we absolutely know is that infection rates throughout the UK are highest in schoolchildren between 5-11 years of age, 8 times higher than in over 75's. But Mr Drakeford has decided to just give Headmasters 2 days in the new year to draw up plans. Really.

How about action from Government to sort out ventilation in classrooms we can spend £b's on shutting down business with no exit plan from the cycle of opening and closing the economy. Right now in my opinion there is more to be gained with sorting out ventilation / filtration in school classrooms than handing out £m's on actions that are not guaranteed to resolve the lockdown cycle.

Do you really think that headmasters will only start to draw up plans in those 2 days?
Here's a thought - maybe they already have several options already planned out and will decide which one to implement when they know how many staff are available at the start of term?

For me Drakeford is a charlatan who claims knowledge that quite simply doesn't exist. Like at the weekend he said the WAG cabinet would be reviewing advice on "How Omicron spreads in outdoor settings" Hands up those who believe it exists beyond yet another model by Swansea University which will be nothing better than a "Best Guess". In January Drakeford put a graph of another model by Swansea University on the "Likely outcome of Delta". It predicted a further 8,000 deaths between January and March this year.

Today we have the outcome of the review which is sport behind closed doors without supplying any science based evidence to support it. But hey ho out comes the power of 3 Mantra of "Keeping Wales Safe" and people lap it up.

Having said that who knows if he is right or wrong I know I don't and I firmly believe he doesn't but we will all know more in the next 3-4 weeks. One thing we absolutely know is that infection rates throughout the UK are highest in schoolchildren between 5-11 years of age, 8 times higher than in over 75's. But Mr Drakeford has decided to just give Headmasters 2 days in the new year to draw up plans. Really.

How about action from Government to sort out ventilation in classrooms we can spend £b's on shutting down business with no exit plan from the cycle of opening and closing the economy. Right now in my opinion there is more to be gained with sorting out ventilation / filtration in school classrooms than handing out £m's on actions that are not guaranteed to resolve the lockdown cycle.

Do you really think that headmasters will only start to draw up plans in those 2 days?
Here's a thought - maybe they already have several options already planned out and will decide which one to implement when they know how many staff are available at the start of term?

No and I didn't say that did I fella. What I said was that Drakeford HAS given them 2 days to draw up plans which fly out the window as teachers get pinged to isolate. What I do know for a fact, because my granddaughter is a student teacher, is that Headmasters are not allowed to arrange supply teachers, no money, and are not allowed to close because of politicians like Drakeford saying schools must stay open. Last week my granddaughter had to look after 2 classes because of over 70% of teachers were either off with covid or isolating. Is that situation sustainable? On Saturday my granddaughter tested positive for covid so her Christmas is out the window.

In my opinion it is not possible to draw up any credible plan which does not allow the option to close and knowing you will not receive any financial support to arrange cover. No matter how many days charlatans like Drakeford give you.

For me Drakeford is a charlatan who claims knowledge that quite simply doesn't exist. Like at the weekend he said the WAG cabinet would be reviewing advice on "How Omicron spreads in outdoor settings" Hands up those who believe it exists beyond yet another model by Swansea University which will be nothing better than a "Best Guess". In January Drakeford put a graph of another model by Swansea University on the "Likely outcome of Delta". It predicted a further 8,000 deaths between January and March this year.

Today we have the outcome of the review which is sport behind closed doors without supplying any science based evidence to support it. But hey ho out comes the power of 3 Mantra of "Keeping Wales Safe" and people lap it up.

Having said that who knows if he is right or wrong I know I don't and I firmly believe he doesn't but we will all know more in the next 3-4 weeks. One thing we absolutely know is that infection rates throughout the UK are highest in schoolchildren between 5-11 years of age, 8 times higher than in over 75's. But Mr Drakeford has decided to just give Headmasters 2 days in the new year to draw up plans. Really.

How about action from Government to sort out ventilation in classrooms we can spend £b's on shutting down business with no exit plan from the cycle of opening and closing the economy. Right now in my opinion there is more to be gained with sorting out ventilation / filtration in school classrooms than handing out £m's on actions that are not guaranteed to resolve the lockdown cycle.

Do you really think that headmasters will only start to draw up plans in those 2 days?
Here's a thought - maybe they already have several options already planned out and will decide which one to implement when they know how many staff are available at the start of term?

No and I didn't say that did I fella. What I said was that Drakeford HAS given them 2 days to draw up plans which fly out the window as teachers get pinged to isolate. What I do know for a fact, because my granddaughter is a student teacher, is that Headmasters are not allowed to arrange supply teachers, no money, and are not allowed to close because of politicians like Drakeford saying schools must stay open. Last week my granddaughter had to look after 2 classes because of over 70% of teachers were either off with covid or isolating. Is that situation sustainable? On Saturday my granddaughter tested positive for covid so her Christmas is out the window.

In my opinion it is not possible to draw up any credible plan which does not allow the option to close and knowing you will not receive any financial support to arrange cover. No matter how many days charlatans like Drakeford give you.

I agree with you about supply teachers but because of funding but because they can't go from 1 school to another on a day to day basis. (Funding availability down to a schools individual budget).
Schools are basically being told that GCSEs are going ahead no matter what, and to prepare for on line learning. Ps I speak as a school governor.

For me Drakeford is a charlatan who claims knowledge that quite simply doesn't exist. Like at the weekend he said the WAG cabinet would be reviewing advice on "How Omicron spreads in outdoor settings" Hands up those who believe it exists beyond yet another model by Swansea University which will be nothing better than a "Best Guess". In January Drakeford put a graph of another model by Swansea University on the "Likely outcome of Delta". It predicted a further 8,000 deaths between January and March this year.

Today we have the outcome of the review which is sport behind closed doors without supplying any science based evidence to support it. But hey ho out comes the power of 3 Mantra of "Keeping Wales Safe" and people lap it up.

Having said that who knows if he is right or wrong I know I don't and I firmly believe he doesn't but we will all know more in the next 3-4 weeks. One thing we absolutely know is that infection rates throughout the UK are highest in schoolchildren between 5-11 years of age, 8 times higher than in over 75's. But Mr Drakeford has decided to just give Headmasters 2 days in the new year to draw up plans. Really.

How about action from Government to sort out ventilation in classrooms we can spend £b's on shutting down business with no exit plan from the cycle of opening and closing the economy. Right now in my opinion there is more to be gained with sorting out ventilation / filtration in school classrooms than handing out £m's on actions that are not guaranteed to resolve the lockdown cycle.

Do you really think that headmasters will only start to draw up plans in those 2 days?
Here's a thought - maybe they already have several options already planned out and will decide which one to implement when they know how many staff are available at the start of term?

No and I didn't say that did I fella. What I said was that Drakeford HAS given them 2 days to draw up plans which fly out the window as teachers get pinged to isolate. What I do know for a fact, because my granddaughter is a student teacher, is that Headmasters are not allowed to arrange supply teachers, no money, and are not allowed to close because of politicians like Drakeford saying schools must stay open. Last week my granddaughter had to look after 2 classes because of over 70% of teachers were either off with covid or isolating. Is that situation sustainable? On Saturday my granddaughter tested positive for covid so her Christmas is out the window.

In my opinion it is not possible to draw up any credible plan which does not allow the option to close and knowing you will not receive any financial support to arrange cover. No matter how many days charlatans like Drakeford give you.

I agree with you about supply teachers but because of funding but because they can't go from 1 school to another on a day to day basis. (Funding availability down to a schools individual budget).
Schools are basically being told that GCSEs are going ahead no matter what, and to prepare for on line learning. Ps I speak as a school governor.

Well in the primary school my granddaughter is on placement teachers and assistants are AT school awaiting results of PCR tests when the rest of us have to isolate until we get a negative test. Other than that the staff at the school take LFT at least 3 days a week surely supply teachers could do the same?

Other options are to offer vaccines to 5-11 year olds and if their parents agree vaccinate them. Better still spend money on ventilation / filtration in every classroom in the country one or both of those would be possible. Whatever the cost it would be a fraction of what the Government is paying to close the economy down.

This opening and closing cycle cannot go on.