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Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:46 pm

Cardiff currently have 9 players from the whole squad with Covid

From Monday if a Club has 14 players fit including a goalkeeper from their full squad then they must play the game EFL have said.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:48 pm

New EFL guidance on the fulfilment of fixtures: "Clubs will be expected to play where it has 14 players including a goalkeeper available from the registered squad list, Under 21 players not on the squad list but have played one League match."


"Or any other contracted player not on the squad list but otherwise would have been eligible to play.”

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:51 pm

With the amount of youngsters we have played I would expect we should field 14

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:54 pm

boyo1927 wrote:With the amount of youngsters we have played I would expect we should field 14


:bluebird:
Yes we could

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:30 pm

I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:37 pm

theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.


Sadly, I think you are correct

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:58 pm

Does the nine include those not double jabbed needing to isolate as deemed close contact?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm

I hear that it's 9 plus two keepers, that's what the issue is, and they won't take vaccins, snowflakes!!

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:40 pm

[quote="New Day Rising"]I hear that it's 9 plus two keepers, that's what the issue is, and they won't take vaccins, snowflakes!![/quotehow do you know this? Or you just heard from a mate? And how do you know its 11 all told? Ive been told it started with 2 members of the training staff, but as its not 100% we dont know, and especially the state of vaccinated or unvaccinated at the club, its guesswork.

And lastly, why are they snowflakes exactly?? Its not up to anyone bar the individual on whether they have it or not! And dont forget, even those double and triole jabbed, can still catch and pass it on.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:45 pm

It really illustrates how no-one is at all bothered about the covid threat when 9 of our players have this 'deadly' illness but there's not a bit of concern for them :lol: The only worry in the thread is matches getting postponed.

People are only getting vaccinated 'to get their freedoms back', which says everything about the state of the World right now

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:50 am

ffs wrote:It really illustrates how no-one is at all bothered about the covid threat when 9 of our players have this 'deadly' illness but there's not a bit of concern for them :lol: The only worry in the thread is matches getting postponed.

People are only getting vaccinated 'to get their freedoms back', which says everything about the state of the World right now


A very poigniant observation. As for why people are getting jabbed, i'd suggest it's more than one factor. I can only give my reasoning to getting on board with the programme, a travel requirement in a month's time where the destination, a vax passport mandatory. So I guess you are right to say i got it to get my freedom back. It's classed as coersion right?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:55 am

I wonder if this is linked to their xmas party? If it is, think this will only add weight to an efl circuit break

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:00 pm

Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:10 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:16 pm

ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 pm

theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.


Mandatory PCR tests 48 hours before a game I think. All games - all staff / coaches / players etc need to show their covid passports. No proof - no playing, no playing - no wages.

I suspect their are lots of players who arent jabbed.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:54 pm

Players will get a rude awakening when out of contract and their new contract insists on vaccines. Money for the lawyers in trying to future proof for what may happen down the line but clubs will be asking players about their vaccine status for sure. Lot will change by June obviously but it will become a factor in contracts, wage and fee negotiation.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pm

ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:
theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.


Mandatory PCR tests 48 hours before a game I think. All games - all staff / coaches / players etc need to show their covid passports. No proof - no playing, no playing - no wages.

I suspect their are lots of players who arent jabbed.

According to the the BBC website 25% of the EFL players are not vaccinated, agree that they should not be paid there ridiculous wages if they get corvid because they’re not jabbed!

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:39 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?



These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?

This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:46 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Players will get a rude awakening when out of contract and their new contract insists on vaccines. Money for the lawyers in trying to future proof for what may happen down the line but clubs will be asking players about their vaccine status for sure. Lot will change by June obviously but it will become a factor in contracts, wage and fee negotiation.

Clubs have already suffered through loss of income.I agree clubs especially in the lower leagues will look to sign vaccinated players.These players who have not been vaccinated could well get us relergated and then f**k off into the sunset.
The UK government can also make it a condition of a work permit that people wanting to work[inclding footballers} in the U.K.
are fully vaccinated.
How many of the anti vaccers have shoved all kinds of drugs in their bodies.Steriods,Coke,Heroin,ectascy etc.but won't take a vaccine.
It makes me laugh. :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:13 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?



These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?

This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?


The lack of respect is clear, our obligation to respect one another has broken down. That's apparent

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:23 pm

Whilst there are some issues with second hand smoke, smoking and alcohol are not infectious. There is a law that says you can't drink and drive because of the harm that can be done for others.

Plenty of countries make childhood vaccination compulsory and kids can't start school without.

https://ourworldindata.org/childhood-va ... n-policies

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:31 pm

ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:
theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.


Mandatory PCR tests 48 hours before a game I think. All games - all staff / coaches / players etc need to show their covid passports. No proof - no playing, no playing - no wages.

I suspect their are lots of players who arent jabbed.



They got you good. What a world we live in haha

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:35 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?



These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?

This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?



Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:53 pm

nubbsy wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?



These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?

This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?



Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.


Law of the land currently states that if an unvaccinated person comes into contact with someone who has tested positive they must self isolate for ten days. If your a small business with two employees one vaccinated and one not and the one not has had multiple absences because he/ she has to self isolate what do you do?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:51 pm

stickywicket wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Players will get a rude awakening when out of contract and their new contract insists on vaccines. Money for the lawyers in trying to future proof for what may happen down the line but clubs will be asking players about their vaccine status for sure. Lot will change by June obviously but it will become a factor in contracts, wage and fee negotiation.

Clubs have already suffered through loss of income.I agree clubs especially in the lower leagues will look to sign vaccinated players.These players who have not been vaccinated could well get us relergated and then f**k off into the sunset.
The UK government can also make it a condition of a work permit that people wanting to work[inclding footballers} in the U.K.
are fully vaccinated.
How many of the anti vaccers have shoved all kinds of drugs in their bodies.Steriods,Coke,Heroin,ectascy etc.but won't take a vaccine.
It makes me laugh. :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Clearly fire breathing Piers Corbyn has plenty of access .

God we missed a trick not having his brother Jezzy in charge during Covid as his brother could have been the non vaccination minister?

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:26 pm

nubbsy wrote:Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.

who's influencing their lives, conditioning their minds to think this way. If the gov get the power to do it with the public support, god help us. You went anti-gov protest? Turn the money tap off. You posted support of an Ayotollah in Iran 2 years back? Off!

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:50 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Whilst there are some issues with second hand smoke, smoking and alcohol are not infectious. There is a law that says you can't drink and drive because of the harm that can be done for others.

Plenty of countries make childhood vaccination compulsory and kids can't start school without.

https://ourworldindata.org/childhood-va ... n-policies



You seem to be missing the point! People are treated for liver disease, even though they have been advised stop drinking they continue! Its not about comparing the two, itd about the fact, that these people continue to dribk, against the best medical advice, but if they need hospital treatments, they still get it! Same with smoking.the packets are full of gory pics & warnings, yet people ignore the dangers, and continue to smoke, but again are given treatments if neccessary.
And your point is mute regards peolle obeyinv the law regarding drink/drug driving! Yet if these people happen to crash, and avoid any other person in the crash, they too recieve the best possible treatment for their injuries! Never seen ambulance staff go "oh he drunk, leave him, its his own doing" as you say its a crime to do it, yet the figures show its ignored by tens of thousands every year!

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:32 am

ffs wrote:It really illustrates how no-one is at all bothered about the covid threat when 9 of our players have this 'deadly' illness but there's not a bit of concern for them :lol: The only worry in the thread is matches getting postponed.

People are only getting vaccinated 'to get their freedoms back', which says everything about the state of the World right now



But you don't get your freedome back, it's a lie. You get one or two extra privileges.

Re: Cardiff City players with Covid

Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:37 am

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:
ffs wrote:
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.

If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.


We were born with freedoms.

You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour :D


For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?



These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?

This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?



Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.


Law of the land currently states that if an unvaccinated person comes into contact with someone who has tested positive they must self isolate for ten days. If your a small business with two employees one vaccinated and one not and the one not has had multiple absences because he/ she has to self isolate what do you do?



Let them isolate and respect their personal choice, Simple.