Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:46 pm
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Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:54 pm
boyo1927 wrote:With the amount of youngsters we have played I would expect we should field 14
Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:30 pm
Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:37 pm
theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.
Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:58 pm
Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:37 pm
Sat Dec 18, 2021 10:40 pm
Sat Dec 18, 2021 11:45 pm
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:50 am
ffs wrote:It really illustrates how no-one is at all bothered about the covid threat when 9 of our players have this 'deadly' illness but there's not a bit of concern for themThe only worry in the thread is matches getting postponed.
People are only getting vaccinated 'to get their freedoms back', which says everything about the state of the World right now
Sun Dec 19, 2021 8:55 am
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:00 pm
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:10 pm
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:16 pm
ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:17 pm
theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 1:54 pm
Sun Dec 19, 2021 2:43 pm
ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.
Mandatory PCR tests 48 hours before a game I think. All games - all staff / coaches / players etc need to show their covid passports. No proof - no playing, no playing - no wages.
I suspect their are lots of players who arent jabbed.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?
Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:46 pm
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Players will get a rude awakening when out of contract and their new contract insists on vaccines. Money for the lawyers in trying to future proof for what may happen down the line but clubs will be asking players about their vaccine status for sure. Lot will change by June obviously but it will become a factor in contracts, wage and fee negotiation.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:13 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?
These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?
This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:23 pm
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:31 pm
ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:theclaw wrote:I’m expecting football to be stopped from Monday.
Mandatory PCR tests 48 hours before a game I think. All games - all staff / coaches / players etc need to show their covid passports. No proof - no playing, no playing - no wages.
I suspect their are lots of players who arent jabbed.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:35 pm
bluesince62 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?
These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?
This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:53 pm
nubbsy wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?
These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?
This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?
Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:51 pm
stickywicket wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Players will get a rude awakening when out of contract and their new contract insists on vaccines. Money for the lawyers in trying to future proof for what may happen down the line but clubs will be asking players about their vaccine status for sure. Lot will change by June obviously but it will become a factor in contracts, wage and fee negotiation.
Clubs have already suffered through loss of income.I agree clubs especially in the lower leagues will look to sign vaccinated players.These players who have not been vaccinated could well get us relergated and then f**k off into the sunset.
The UK government can also make it a condition of a work permit that people wanting to work[inclding footballers} in the U.K.
are fully vaccinated.
How many of the anti vaccers have shoved all kinds of drugs in their bodies.Steriods,Coke,Heroin,ectascy etc.but won't take a vaccine.
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Sun Dec 19, 2021 10:26 pm
nubbsy wrote:Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.
Sun Dec 19, 2021 11:50 pm
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Whilst there are some issues with second hand smoke, smoking and alcohol are not infectious. There is a law that says you can't drink and drive because of the harm that can be done for others.
Plenty of countries make childhood vaccination compulsory and kids can't start school without.
https://ourworldindata.org/childhood-va ... n-policies
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:32 am
ffs wrote:It really illustrates how no-one is at all bothered about the covid threat when 9 of our players have this 'deadly' illness but there's not a bit of concern for themThe only worry in the thread is matches getting postponed.
People are only getting vaccinated 'to get their freedoms back', which says everything about the state of the World right now
Mon Dec 20, 2021 12:37 am
Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:nubbsy wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:ffs wrote:Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Aren't we getting vaccinated as it makes it less likely we will get a bad version of covid? And boosted for the same reason? The fact we get more "freedoms" is a bonus at this point in time.
If footballers choosing not to be vaccinated are having to isolate for ten days they should not be being paid.
We were born with freedoms.
You can't suddenly take that away and say if you do this one thing you can have them back. Harvey Weinstein has been vilified for similar behaviour
For good or bad we are not free to do whatever we won't. Can't travel without a passport. Can't drive car without licence, mot and insurance. Can't get on a train without a ticket. Cant work with children without DBS check. And on and on. All these have evolved through a variety of forces and circumstances and covid no different?
These are mandatory requirements, and until the jab becomes that, its called freedom of choice?
This whole saga has really turned society against one another imo, people who have been jabbed constantly trying to mock those who havent & vice versa.while it is up to the individual on their choice regards the jab, why cant people just let them make it themselves? Without the shite about punishing those who have chose, for whatever reason not to.
I consider others peoples choices in life as that their "choices" but we live in a society where people smoke for instance, but are not denied treatment for the many related diseases that come with the habit? Why not just ban cigarettes?? Because we know 100% that it is bad for you & your health, and to any kids, adults in your household who dont have the habit, and costs the nhs & other agencies involved with treatment for smoking related illnesses.yet the government allows us to make our own decisions around it, as it makes them a shit load in tax! If you are going to punish people for not having the jab, by not paying them, perhaps any smokers who are off due to a smoking related illness should also not be paid?
My point being, we all know the dangers of smoking, but nobody knows of any long term effects of this new jab? How many people take days off sick with hangovers? Or for treatment for alcohol related illness? Where do you draw the line?
Best post I've read in quite some time this. I hope enough people on here read this and it sinks in. Especially those trying to hang the "un-vaxxed" and even suggesting they cannot make a living without having a vaccine.
Law of the land currently states that if an unvaccinated person comes into contact with someone who has tested positive they must self isolate for ten days. If your a small business with two employees one vaccinated and one not and the one not has had multiple absences because he/ she has to self isolate what do you do?