Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:58 pm
Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:12 pm
Wed Dec 15, 2021 3:14 pm
nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:01 pm
Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Correct Bells was still sorting it as takes many years,when they virtually dismissed him.
Bells had to revamp it from top to bottom and that takes time.
Jack, Bells was getting their and Morison has continued his good work![]()
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I would say real work started on finally realising what talent their is in South Wales from about 2017, many of the kids were their but were being forgotten from 2007-2017.
I just hope it continues since Morison moved up to be our manager![]()
Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:16 pm
nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Correct Bells was still sorting it as takes many years,when they virtually dismissed him.
Bells had to revamp it from top to bottom and that takes time.
Jack, Bells was getting their and Morison has continued his good work![]()
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I would say real work started on finally realising what talent their is in South Wales from about 2017, many of the kids were their but were being forgotten from 2007-2017.
I just hope it continues since Morison moved up to be our manager![]()
Fair enough, Annis.
I don't agree with the may they handled the "bullying" case. Just another example of snowflake kids and the parents that think they are gods gift in my opinion.
Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:27 pm
Wed Dec 15, 2021 4:37 pm
nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Correct Bells was still sorting it as takes many years,when they virtually dismissed him.
Bells had to revamp it from top to bottom and that takes time.
Jack, Bells was getting their and Morison has continued his good work![]()
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I would say real work started on finally realising what talent their is in South Wales from about 2017, many of the kids were their but were being forgotten from 2007-2017.
I just hope it continues since Morison moved up to be our manager![]()
Fair enough, Annis.
I don't agree with the may they handled the "bullying" case. Just another example of snowflake kids and the parents that think they are gods gift in my opinion.
Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:48 pm
Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:57 pm
Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Correct Bells was still sorting it as takes many years,when they virtually dismissed him.
Bells had to revamp it from top to bottom and that takes time.
Jack, Bells was getting their and Morison has continued his good work![]()
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I would say real work started on finally realising what talent their is in South Wales from about 2017, many of the kids were their but were being forgotten from 2007-2017.
I just hope it continues since Morison moved up to be our manager![]()
Fair enough, Annis.
I don't agree with the may they handled the "bullying" case. Just another example of snowflake kids and the parents that think they are gods gift in my opinion.
Totally agree with your , terrible on our behalf and Bells was very very hurt by us. I have spoken to him many many times .
Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:58 pm
Crayfish wrote:As far as I know none of the youngsters who left whether for bullying reasons or anything else for that matter have achieved anything much anywhere else.
Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:06 pm
Sven wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:Forever Blue wrote:nubbsy wrote:But when Morrison says the academy was a mess when he came in and has been fot a while, Bellers is not any part to blame? He's only responsible for the good stuff?
Correct Bells was still sorting it as takes many years,when they virtually dismissed him.
Bells had to revamp it from top to bottom and that takes time.
Jack, Bells was getting their and Morison has continued his good work![]()
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I would say real work started on finally realising what talent their is in South Wales from about 2017, many of the kids were their but were being forgotten from 2007-2017.
I just hope it continues since Morison moved up to be our manager![]()
Fair enough, Annis.
I don't agree with the may they handled the "bullying" case. Just another example of snowflake kids and the parents that think they are gods gift in my opinion.
Totally agree with your , terrible on our behalf and Bells was very very hurt by us. I have spoken to him many many times .
I recall many on here (some with personal agendas awayvfrom football) had Craig hung, drawn and quartered as soon as the allegation was made; whilst others suggested it was better to 'wait and see' what developed, aa early suggestions pointed to an embittered parent looking to use his 'standing' as a former professional footballer as a tool for leverage
The seeming lack of initial support and/or the lack of any findings detrimental to Craig, suggest that he was wronged both by theclub and the accuser
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It's a crying shame and the downside is that Cardiff City FC have lost out on a very dynamic and committed individual no matter at what level he may have worked at
Definitely 'one for the future' for me; but seemingly not under this ownership, which is a crying shame
Wed Dec 15, 2021 6:19 pm
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Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:06 am
GrangeEndStar wrote:When Craig chose to join us on loan after being frozen out by Citeh, it was obvious on his ambitions for us. He had multiple PL options but chose us and dropped down a division, which was huge. His positive impact was immediate, both on and off the pitch. Such an asset for all the right reasons.
I think the reasons for his exit via the academy farce was that he was a thorn in the management and boards side, as he spoke the uncomfortable truth at the time and I know for a fact it was a highly political environment back then and not based on merit. After he went, the club ven appointed a 'Head Of Safeguarding' as a PC move, a pointless position for another City gravytrainer.who moved in fast. Anorher waste of money.
And Craig made the start of the root and branch Academy restructure for no salary and basically worked full time as a football expert for free plus done a huge amount outside football too, all unrecognised.
He identified talent that could be transitioned to the first team but that was stonewalled whilst incumbent managers and the board just crisis managed, fire fighting with no vision and linked philosophy for the long term future. SMs.appoitment is to a degree now aligning that but only as a result of of the constant fire fighting and the perfect storm of having no other valid options as a result of it. And of course, seemingly no money as we spunked the PL revenues due to consistely bad board decions.
He's is own man and wouldn't return under the current regime and for me the disgusting way he's been treated,
When the time is right, I really hope he returns in a senor calacjty as he simply brings so much to the table on every level.
Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:32 am
stickywicket wrote:Cian Ashford
Media Wales:
Man United eyeing Ashford
Manchester United are the latest high-profile side to take an interest in Cardiff City youngster Cian Ashford.
The young forward, who hails from Treorchy, has emerged as one of the brightest young talents within Cardiff's academy system, having signed his first professional contract with the club earlier this year.
Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:34 am
GrangeEndStar wrote:When Craig chose to join us on loan after being frozen out by Citeh, it was obvious on his ambitions for us. He had multiple PL options but chose us and dropped down a division, which was huge. His positive impact was immediate, both on and off the pitch. Such an asset for all the right reasons.
I think the reasons for his exit via the academy farce was that he was a thorn in the management and boards side, as he spoke the uncomfortable truth at the time and I know for a fact it was a highly political environment back then and not based on merit. After he went, the club ven appointed a 'Head Of Safeguarding' as a PC move, a pointless position for another City gravytrainer.who moved in fast. Anorher waste of money.
And Craig made the start of the root and branch Academy restructure for no salary and basically worked full time as a football expert for free plus done a huge amount outside football too, all unrecognised.
He identified talent that could be transitioned to the first team but that was stonewalled whilst incumbent managers and theboard just crisis managed, fire fighting with no vision and linked philosophy for the long term future. SMs.appoitment is to a degree now aligning that but only as a result of of the constant fire fighting and the perfect storm of having no other valid options as a result of it. And of course, seemingly no money as we spunked the PL revenues due to consistely bad board decions.
He's is own man and wouldn't return under the current regime and for me the disgusting way he's been treated,
When the time is right, I really hope he returns in a senor calacjty as he simply brings so much to the table on every level.
Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:53 pm
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