TOMLIN!

This is what I have been told, butTomlin had no where near his full payout, whatever people say or guess. The Club has been monitoring him and noting the fact he frequently didn’t follow medical/training guidelines. This has been noted over months and he was told that if he didn’t accept the payoff the club would sack him without any payment. It seems Vassel is on the same path. Sven has just posted an update below from another reliable source,
The club has apparently been paid recently for players sold in the past which has helped with finances. Some of the players out on loan will be coming back, my guess is Wintle, and Whyte.

I believe that out of all the contract players only one will be offered a new contact that obviously could change, as with city it's like a merry go round, things change from day to day.
Maybe clearing the decks for a new manager.

City have talked to three managers, two of them are Wilder and Flynn the third they are keeping very close to their chest as he is managing a club in the championship.
I also believe that had we lost Saturday playing as we have been, then MM would have been sacked. The next two games for him are make or break!
Sven has just posted an update on what I have posted below, from another reliable source,

interesting however I don't think Mick would of been sacked if we played badly Saturday.. not what choo said mind but then again wouldn't fully trust him

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

I love you 'in the know' merchants - you do make me laugh

So which is it? Large pay off or not? Perhaps if the had evidence of his not following training & fitness regime, they should have just sacked him? As that's what they were thinking??

I say large, as for me, anything over 50% is too much!!

Given that we will have paid Tomlin in full for the duration of his time here and he's maybe given us ten appearances worthy of the shirt, any "savings" we make on paying up the last 7/8 months will unfortunately be fairly incidental. That said if we pay him the equivalent of 10k a less that's a very useful wage for a new recruit in January.

So which is it? Large pay off or not? Perhaps if the had evidence of his not following training & fitness regime, they should have just sacked him? As that's what they were thinking??

If only life was that easy? Probably would go to tribunal via pfa so costing city more than settlement .... that's the way of football unfortunately.

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

I love you 'in the know' merchants - you do make me laugh

And people like you, who read a Forum and expect everything to be nailed on, make me laugh, too...

It's not an exact science, fella but information does come long. Sometimes it plays out and sometimes it doesn't; and I feel sure most genuine people on here want to be kept updates so far as things are known or bel8eved to be known

Of course we know things change, so we do leave ourselves open a little and allow certain predictable posters to smugly jump on the 'knocking' bandwagon

Looking back at their own positive and/or informative contributions to this Forum, I don't think we will worry about them too much

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

Paul, I trust you on that one and believe he is safe barring a battering by the Swans and the support base turning on both manager and Board/owner even more

I have no issue with Mick McCarthy staying right now; unlike some, I don't think sacking him will make much difference and I definitely don't/didn't want Mike Flint after speaking to someone close to the Newpot set-up

I like the idea of Chris Wilder though

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

Paul, I trust you on that one and believe he is safe barring a battering by the Swans and the support base turning on both manager and Board/owner even more

I have no issue with Mick McCarthy staying right now; unlike some, I don't think sacking him will make much difference and I definitely don't/didn't want Mike Flint after speaking to someone close to the Newpot set-up

Yes mate I’m with you on that. I think at the moment it’s pointless to get rid at the moment and that’s from someone who never wanted the guy - as you know.

If change came I’d be happy to try Wilder the ex Sheffield Utd manager.

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

Paul, I trust you on that one and believe he is safe barring a battering by the Swans and the support base turning on both manager and Board/owner even more

I have no issue with Mick McCarthy staying right now; unlike some, I don't think sacking him will make much difference and I definitely don't/didn't want Mike Flint after speaking to someone close to the Newpot set-up

Yes mate I’m with you on that. I think at the moment it’s pointless to get rid at the moment and that’s from someone who never wanted the guy - as you know.

If change came I’d be happy to try Wilder the ex Sheffield Utd manager.

(on all counts)

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

Paul, I trust you on that one and believe he is safe barring a battering by the Swans and the support base turning on both manager and Board/owner even more

I have no issue with Mick McCarthy staying right now; unlike some, I don't think sacking him will make much difference and I definitely don't/didn't want Mike Flint after speaking to someone close to the Newpot set-up

Yes mate I’m with you on that. I think at the moment it’s pointless to get rid at the moment and that’s from someone who never wanted the guy - as you know.

If change came I’d be happy to try Wilder the ex Sheffield Utd manager.

(on all counts)

Said not long after start of season mick needs to go at end of season for sake of youngsters and fact we'll lose all the deadwood.... but more importantly need a manager that can work with bale next season?

I would love it to be true that we are talking to a manager currently in work and in our league.

Whether we have the pulling power to sort out such a deal, is another thing.

I know it's the norm to get a manager out of work as it may be cheaper but many of those in our price bracket are out of work for a reason.

Would love a poached manager who finally changed the style of play.

So which is it? Large pay off or not? Perhaps if the had evidence of his not following training & fitness regime, they should have just sacked him? As that's what they were thinking??

If only life was that easy? Probably would go to tribunal via pfa so costing city more than settlement .... that's the way of football unfortunately.

Allan, I'm just repeating what op said, that he was told take it or nothing? Not saying they could do that, but perhaps with evidence of him not doing things regards fitness,recovery they may of had a case to end his contract due to breaches? We will never know how much he was paid!

Mark Robbins id suspect could be a target, done tremendously well on very little resorces

Mark Robbins id suspect could be a target, done tremendously well on very little resorces

Doubt a manager of a club on the rise would come to a club on the slide.

So which is it? Large pay off or not? Perhaps if the had evidence of his not following training & fitness regime, they should have just sacked him? As that's what they were thinking??

If only life was that easy? Probably would go to tribunal via pfa so costing city more than settlement .... that's the way of football unfortunately.

Allan, I'm just repeating what op said, that he was told take it or nothing? Not saying they could do that, but perhaps with evidence of him not doing things regards fitness,recovery they may of had a case to end his contract due to breaches? We will never know how much he was paid!

No we will never accurately know the settlement.. I was referring to point about sacking him? Its not easy when it comes to footballers unless its gross misconduct not sure Tomlins attitude constitutes gross misconduct... but at end day good riddance total waste of time.

Contradictory to this, I have been told that Tomlin had a high percentage pay off (75%+) but not the full amount

Not sure about managers being spoken to other than Flynn but it is clear something has happened behind the scenes and MM's position was discussed (with him, too)

Currently, there is no appetite to replace the current manager and that could be wise with the Swansea game coming up, as we know Mick will be 'up' for that and it's a game we can win with him in charge

For me, the result of that game will have a massive bearing on the manager's future, as the whole mood of the club and its support base will be swayed by it

Chris I can tell you categorically that he wouldn’t have been sacked regardless of the Reading game.
You’re correct, in the short term he’s going nowhere.

Paul, I trust you on that one and believe he is safe barring a battering by the Swans and the support base turning on both manager and Board/owner even more

I have no issue with Mick McCarthy staying right now; unlike some, I don't think sacking him will make much difference and I definitely don't/didn't want Mike Flint after speaking to someone close to the Newpot set-up

Mike Flint from Newpot?



Fair play that gave me a good giggle whether it was a slip of the finger or not!