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1980s Bluebird wrote:Everyone stands in the Canton anyway
Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:32 pm
Canton Kev wrote:Very positive news but only the back 5 rows? Almost everyone in the back 15-20 rows stands in the Canton, are we only allowed to add a limited number due to it still being trialled?
Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:23 pm
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Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:46 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Umm everyone stands in the canton anyway. So nothing different happening![]()
Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Leon1927 wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Everyone stands in the Canton anyway
Safely?
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:03 pm
Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:21 pm
corky wrote:the whole Canton can be standing area, the back rows are more steeper so will have some barriers added.That will then satisfy the safety advisory group and will be a dedicated standing area, the rest of the canton will remain an area where standing is tolerated. The club as always tried to offer choice since we have been at the CCS despite the presure from SAG... The scheme will also assist those who prefer to sit because the other three parts of the stadium are strictly all seater with dispensation allowed in the away end
Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:18 pm
Leon1927 wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Everyone stands in the Canton anyway
Safely?
Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:09 pm
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Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:11 am
Don Keydick wrote:I don't get this "safe standing" shit. It's all come about after Hillborough which was a terrible tragedy as we all know. But as usual in this country, laws brought in go way over the top. I've been in few 50,000 plus crowds at Ninian Park and also been in crowds approaching 60,000 at Anfield, White Hart Lane and Villa Park. Back in the day millions used to go through the turnstiles every year in huge crowds with no issues at all. Bring back the terraces and let's have some atmosphere.
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:54 am
Leon1927 wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:Everyone stands in the Canton anyway
Safely?
Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:05 am
JJ1927 wrote:Don Keydick wrote:I don't get this "safe standing" shit. It's all come about after Hillborough which was a terrible tragedy as we all know. But as usual in this country, laws brought in go way over the top. I've been in few 50,000 plus crowds at Ninian Park and also been in crowds approaching 60,000 at Anfield, White Hart Lane and Villa Park. Back in the day millions used to go through the turnstiles every year in huge crowds with no issues at all. Bring back the terraces and let's have some atmosphere.
Agree with you. Its not terraces and standing that are the problem its the way they were adapted in the late seventies and eighties. What caused Hillsborough was the way the authorities treated fans like cattle with pens and fences. Had there been no pens at Hillsborough the fans in the central pen would have naturally spread out to the side where there was plenty of room. Not one person would have died.
Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:23 am
pembroke allan wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don Keydick wrote:I don't get this "safe standing" shit. It's all come about after Hillborough which was a terrible tragedy as we all know. But as usual in this country, laws brought in go way over the top. I've been in few 50,000 plus crowds at Ninian Park and also been in crowds approaching 60,000 at Anfield, White Hart Lane and Villa Park. Back in the day millions used to go through the turnstiles every year in huge crowds with no issues at all. Bring back the terraces and let's have some atmosphere.
Agree with you. Its not terraces and standing that are the problem its the way they were adapted in the late seventies and eighties. What caused Hillsborough was the way the authorities treated fans like cattle with pens and fences. Had there been no pens at Hillsborough the fans in the central pen would have naturally spread out to the side where there was plenty of room. Not one person would have died.
Yes Hillsborough had nothing to do with standing it had several elements to it standing was not one ... but it was easy for the powers to be to stamp on football with laws far in excess of any other sport and on lots of things that had nothing to do with football but was used to demonise fans unfairly and city fans more than most...
Thu Sep 23, 2021 10:58 am
Don Keydick wrote:pembroke allan wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Don Keydick wrote:I don't get this "safe standing" shit. It's all come about after Hillborough which was a terrible tragedy as we all know. But as usual in this country, laws brought in go way over the top. I've been in few 50,000 plus crowds at Ninian Park and also been in crowds approaching 60,000 at Anfield, White Hart Lane and Villa Park. Back in the day millions used to go through the turnstiles every year in huge crowds with no issues at all. Bring back the terraces and let's have some atmosphere.
Agree with you. Its not terraces and standing that are the problem its the way they were adapted in the late seventies and eighties. What caused Hillsborough was the way the authorities treated fans like cattle with pens and fences. Had there been no pens at Hillsborough the fans in the central pen would have naturally spread out to the side where there was plenty of room. Not one person would have died.
Yes Hillsborough had nothing to do with standing it had several elements to it standing was not one ... but it was easy for the powers to be to stamp on football with laws far in excess of any other sport and on lots of things that had nothing to do with football but was used to demonise fans unfairly and city fans more than most...
Wasn't there also an issue with the ticket allocation? I seem to remember Forest getting 29,000 tickets which was way above their average home attendance, and Liverpool getting 22,000 tickets which was way below their home average. Then they opened the gates to let people flood in, madness.
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:01 pm
corky wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Umm everyone stands in the canton anyway. So nothing different happening![]()
It saves loads of work though fighting the city council, Safety advisory group and EFL rules, we have maintained for years that our stadioum is safe and proved it ..we have got away with tolerated standing fort many years becauser we proved it, now it is official and we can have a dedicated standing area....but YES no chnage for the fans mate aprt from those at ther back who now have rails to lean on.
Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:04 pm
Canton Kev wrote:Been standing for years and never really had many issues so can see why some people think it’s redundant. But it only takes 1 surge forward (which do happen) and someone getting crushed or falling and cracking their head open, potentially fatally, and suddenly the club is forced to introduce harsher restrictions on standing and ticket sales.
It doesn’t detract from the match day experience for anyone, only improves it![]()
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