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        Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:28 am
		
			
			Mick McCarthy was once again watching the NEW Cardiff U23’S which are now mainly 17,18 & 19 year olds and have properly come through the Cardiff Accademy  
  
  
 Citu won their fourth consecutive match yesterday v Sheffield United U23’S 2-9 and undefeated this season.
Mick was asked what did he think: “Was impressed and is looking to bring a few more of them in to the first team squad in January.” 
  
My View:
This new squad of young players are very talented way way more players from our actual Accademy , a few have joined from from other clubs but the majority are actually Accademy players.  
Plus these are the ages that really look like making it  
  
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        Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:28 pm
		
			
			Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:38 pm
		
			
			JulesK wrote:Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
Im with you on this,would be fantastic if the spine of our team was from our academy!!
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:43 pm
		
			
			bluesince62 wrote:JulesK wrote:Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
Im with you on this,would be fantastic if the spine of our team was from our academy!!
 
Some of us are old enough to remember the last bunch Paul   
			
		 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:00 pm
		
			
			Our young players are the only thing that gives me hope at the moment. From what I've seen and read I believe Semenyo, Zimba and D'Almeda are not far away from the first team squad and young Cian Ashford at 16, is a real prospect. Heard good things about Keenan Patten too and we know that Mick likes Kieron Evans and Isaak Davies. Throw in Colwill, Bagan and McGuiness and you have virtually a full team of young and very young players. Now I'm not suggesting that we throw them all in at the same time, but in a season where we look like a middle of the table team, I think it's in the long term interests of the Club to blood as many as we can during the season.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:36 pm
		
			
			JulesK wrote:bluesince62 wrote:JulesK wrote:Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
Im with you on this,would be fantastic if the spine of our team was from our academy!!
 
Some of us are old enough to remember the last bunch Paul   

 
We are, Julesk; and we would love to see it again, so long as the style of play was as as progressive... 
			
		 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:45 pm
		
			
			Sven wrote:JulesK wrote:bluesince62 wrote:JulesK wrote:Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
Im with you on this,would be fantastic if the spine of our team was from our academy!!
 
Some of us are old enough to remember the last bunch Paul   

 
We are, Julesk; and we would love to see it again, so long as the style of play was as as progressive... 

 
This is the problem Chris.
Most clubs I would imagine have a system of play that starts with the very young age groups and goes through to the u-18s, u-23s and first team.
But what chance have the decent young kids coming through who are playing a different system to McCarthy’s hit and hope style of football?
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:15 pm
		
			
			OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Sven wrote:JulesK wrote:bluesince62 wrote:JulesK wrote:Can only bear well for the future Annis, personally I wouldn't mind just floating in the Championship for a couple of years if we can hang on to these youngsters and form a good young team from them with obviously a few older pros to give some stability.
Im with you on this,would be fantastic if the spine of our team was from our academy!!
 
Some of us are old enough to remember the last bunch Paul   

 
We are, Julesk; and we would love to see it again, so long as the style of play was as as progressive... 

 
This is the problem Chris.
Most clubs I would imagine have a system of play that starts with the very young age groups and goes through to the u-18s, u-23s and first team.
But what chance have the decent young kids coming through who are playing a different system to McCarthy’s hit and hope style of football?
 
Sadly, very little, mate and (dare I say it) the working model for me would be Leeds United under Bielsa
They play his style 
at all levels and their preparedness shows when they are given a chance at each progressive level into the first team
It's also why his signings are specific and often from left-field; he knows exactly what he wants in terms of style, effort and mentality
It's one of the reasons I would have accepted the under appreciated (by the Jacks) Steve Cooper as our manager had he not gone to Forest. I think he could have been the ideal man to bring our new crop through playing attractive football
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 6:40 pm
		
			
			Keep MM well away or they will be destroyed. Their style will get beaten out of them. He will need to go to have any hope of them playing front foot football.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:10 pm
		
			
			A golden generation of  young players in 1970-71 when City were in the FA Youth Cup final v Arsenal, 2 legs. Sadly we lost 2-0 on age after a 0-0 at Highbury in the first leg
Those of a certain age will recognise some decent names in there, especially club legend Phil Dwyer. Billy Kellock and Nigel Rees decent too, then McInch, Couch and Impey were ok.
1970–71: Arsenal v. Cardiff City 
First leg - 28 April 1971
Arsenal	0–0	Cardiff City
Highbury Stadium, London
Referee: Derek Nippard
Arsenal
No.	Pos.	Player	
1	GK	Graham Horn	
2	DF	Dave Donaldson	
3	DF	Micky Shovelar	
4	MF	David Price	
5	DF	Brendon Batson	
6	MF	Jim de Garis	
7	FW	Brian Hornsby	
8	MF	Charlie Newton	
9	FW	Paul Davies	
10	MF	Terry Burton	
11	FW	Tony Waring	
12	FW	Kevin Kennerley 	
 
Cardiff City
No.	Pos.	Player	
1	GK	John Williams	
2	DF	Phil Dwyer	
3	DF	Jimmy Hobby	
4	MF	Billy Kellock	
5	DF	John Impey (c)	
6	DF	Alan Shaw	
7	FW	Bryan Rees	
8	FW	Jimmy McInch	
9	FW	Alan Couch	
10	FW	George Gibbs	
11	FW	Nigel Rees	
12	MF	Peter Davies 
Second leg
5 May 1971
19:30 BST
Cardiff City	0–2	Arsenal
Ninian Park, Cardiff
Referee: Derek Nippard
Arsenal
No.	Pos.	Player	
1	GK	Graham Horn	
2	DF	Dave Donaldson	
3	DF	Micky Shovelar	
4	MF	David Price	
5	DF	Brendon Batson	
6	MF	Jim de Garis	
7	FW	Brian Hornsby	
8	MF	Charlie Newton	
9	FW	Paul Davies	
10	MF	Terry Burton	
11	FW	Kevin Kennerley 	 
Cardiff City
No.	Pos.	Player	
1	GK	John Williams	
2	DF	Phil Dwyer	
3	DF	Jimmy Hobby	
4	MF	Billy Kellock	
5	DF	John Impey (c)	
6	DF	Alan Shaw	
7	FW	Bryan Rees	
8	FW	Jimmy McInch	
9	FW	Alan Couch	
10	FW	George Gibbs	
11	FW	Nigel Rees	
12	MF	Peter Davies
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
	
	    
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