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        Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:32 pm
		
			
			Unbelievable what they have achieved the past few seasons gutting to think why didn’t we push on like them steady prem club playing in Europe surely tan takes interest
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:22 pm
		
			
			I don’t think what Leicester managed could’ve been matched by us, even if Tan had kept investing like he did during the rebrand years. Vichai was worth something like 5x more than Tan I think. 
Also even 10 years ago before their recent success, Leicester were a bigger team than us.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:24 pm
		
			
			keano wrote:Unbelievable what they have achieved the past few seasons gutting to think why didn’t we push on like them steady prem club playing in Europe surely tan takes interest
Maybe he does  but owners  massively richer  than tan if  u remember  they sacked  Pearson season after producing  a miracle  to keep  them up  and ranieri  won  league  with basically  same side Pearson  had.... but fortunately  they had something  we lack and that was a long term plan... recently  opened  £100m training  complex whilst we are doing great with houses of sport ect  locals are dead set against  training  facilities  in their back yard  something  Leicester  didn't  have  hence still waiting  to get it done.
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:57 am
		
			
			What's happened at Leicester has been brilliant and would love for it to happen to us. Same has fans of another 20/30 clubs particularly fans of Coventry Blackburn Pomey
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 11:42 am
		
			
			Pencoed wrote:What's happened at Leicester has been brilliant and would love for it to happen to us. Same has fans of another 20/30 clubs particularly fans of Coventry Blackburn Pomey
Yes there are lots of clubs fans that want to be like a relatively  successful   club....  but unfortunately  football  doesn't  work  like that takes luck  good planning  and good management  with a bit of money  to help it along..
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:36 pm
		
			
			They have done brilliant.
This is due to solid investment.
Another big factor is you always need a bit of luck.
They were close to going down when Pearson was in charge and if they had then things would have worked out differently.
Ranieri performed miracles and things would have been different if he'd struggled to get his message through to the players.
Rodgers was also a gamble. Won a lot at Celtic but struggled when he was at Liverpool.
In the end, he's done an outstanding job there.
At some point he'll get a move to a bigger club, he already turned down Spurs. A lot of chatter that Man Utd are looking at him if Ole doesn't win anything this season.
A big test for them will be who they replace him with. One bad appointment and things could fall apart. They are the closest to City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool but that gap is already getting bigger. 
They also have the issue that Vardy is approaching retirement.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:13 pm
		
			
			worcester_ccfc wrote:They have done brilliant.
This is due to solid investment.
Another big factor is you always need a bit of luck.
They were close to going down when Pearson was in charge and if they had then things would have worked out differently.
Ranieri performed miracles and things would have been different if he'd struggled to get his message through to the players.
Rodgers was also a gamble. Won a lot at Celtic but struggled when he was at Liverpool.
In the end, he's done an outstanding job there.
At some point he'll get a move to a bigger club, he already turned down Spurs. A lot of chatter that Man Utd are looking at him if Ole doesn't win anything this season.
A big test for them will be who they replace him with. One bad appointment and things could fall apart. They are the closest to City, United, Chelsea and Liverpool but that gap is already getting bigger. 
They also have the issue that Vardy is approaching retirement.
Like most teams they rely on little  bit luck here  and there.....rinerie  was known  as the tinker man for always  changing  his team but kept faith  with what he inherited   got system right and that was that.... lose Rogers will they be as lucky  with new manager?  As for vardy  already brought  in replacement  for him  who played last night... hard to compare  clubs as lots of variables  effect  the success of  club.
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:26 pm
		
			
			Leicester haven't just come from no wherethey are amongst a whole host of clubs who have spent over 50 years each in  the top division derby forest Brum wba wolves Leeds etc etc the foundations are always there . Cardiff on the other hand are in the Wales and west region which the countrys least successful area us 17 seasons top flight Bristol and jack's 9 seasons none of the other clubs have ever played top flight football. Not saying it's always got to be this way but we are in a football backwater
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:41 pm
		
			
			pembroke allan wrote:Pencoed wrote:What's happened at Leicester has been brilliant and would love for it to happen to us. Same has fans of another 20/30 clubs particularly fans of Coventry Blackburn Pomey
Yes there are lots of clubs fans that want to be like a relatively  successful   club....  but unfortunately  football  doesn't  work  like that takes luck  good planning  and good management  with a bit of money  to help it along..
 
Oh and going into   administration  straight  after building  new ground  certainly  helped  
			
		 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:36 am
		
			
			The most impressive bit, and the biggest difference from us, has been that they've built on it. Winning the title was one thing but they have become a consistent side competing for European places and the main reason is recruitment. 
Yes they got a bit lucky with Mahrez and Kante but they've replaced them. And others. Maguire, Chilwell. When we signed Murphy from Norwich, Leicester signed Maddison from Norwich too. Tielmans and would get in to any squad. And Chilwell and Barnes have come through their Academy.
Brand of football and manager all helps too.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:04 am
		
			
			I take the point of the OP that Leicester have done brilliantly in recent years but we shouldn't down play our achivements neither.
Football League Champions, Football League Runners' up, FA Cup Final, Play-Off Final, League Cup Final, numerous play off qualifications and 2 years of PL football.
We have a fantastic new(ish) ground and our academy is starting to produce good local players again.
Most importantly we haven't faced any court winding up orders for over 10 years so the club has stabilised financially even if it is still heavily indebt to the owner.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:17 am
		
			
			Leicester have ticked all the boxes. Had a bit of luck too but they are the minority. Look at all the other clubs that have invested, namely Derby. You can look at the glass half empty or half full.
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 10:54 am
		
			
			Our problem has been with the performance of Dalman and Choo. Vincent Tan backed them financially but we have failed to move forward. In fact, I feel that we have moved backwards which has been demonstrated by the type of managers we have appointed. Mick may be honest in his approach, but how many of us would have picked him as a way of moving the club forward?
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:08 am
		
			
			pembroke allan wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Pencoed wrote:What's happened at Leicester has been brilliant and would love for it to happen to us. Same has fans of another 20/30 clubs particularly fans of Coventry Blackburn Pomey
Yes there are lots of clubs fans that want to be like a relatively  successful   club....  but unfortunately  football  doesn't  work  like that takes luck  good planning  and good management  with a bit of money  to help it along..
 
Oh and going into   administration  straight  after building  new ground  certainly  helped  

 
Exactly. I think their  Premier League win was fantastic and have nothing but admiration for it but they started with a clean slate and no debt and this helped them get into the Premier League, just like Southampton. We were already 50 million in debt -if you believe the figures- when Tan took over and this has grown steadily.
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:54 pm
		
			
			Scoularite wrote:Our problem has been with the performance of Dalman and Choo. Vincent Tan backed them financially but we have failed to move forward. In fact, I feel that we have moved backwards which has been demonstrated by the type of managers we have appointed. Mick may be honest in his approach, but how many of us would have picked him as a way of moving the club forward?
Spot on about Dalman and Choo. I can't comprehend they have stayed in their posts as long as they have. Tongues so far up Tan's ****. They are half of our transfer committee!!!!!
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 3:17 pm
		
			
			Its simple better owners who love football and have people in the club who know football as Tan does the opposite. The Leicester owner never wanted to change the colour of the club or any traditions just to make it more successful and they done it, the father then died in that terrible Helicopter crash and the son for the love of his father continued.
The scenes on their FA cup win was class and showed a great team of owners manager coaches and players all together.
Tan is a problem sadly is a business toy of his and he knows nothing about the Toy and keeps people in charge who also knows nothing about the Toy and sadly the toy is us and our club we love we can only dream we will ever be half as good Leicester
			
		
		
		
	
	 
	
        
        Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:22 pm
		
			
			valleyrambill wrote:Its simple better owners who love football and have people in the club who know football as Tan does the opposite. The Leicester owner never wanted to change the colour of the club or any traditions just to make it more successful and they done it, the father then died in that terrible Helicopter crash and the son for the love of his father continued.
The scenes on their FA cup win was class and showed a great team of owners manager coaches and players all together.
Tan is a problem sadly is a business toy of his and he knows nothing about the Toy and keeps people in charge who also knows nothing about the Toy and sadly the toy is us and our club we love we can only dream we will ever be half as good Leicester
All that is after they manipulated   administration  so that they had new stadium  and paid sfa for it ....the owners you  refer  to had a clean slate to build on tan had 50m+ debt on  takeover plus club was losing money.... yes tan as made mistakes time after time but one thing hasnt done is screw the club  like others have done or like Leicester  did to those that built their  stadium  ect.
Leicesters owners are brilliant and would love to have similar  at city  but dont paint the club as role model  for city  because  they've  only achieved  it by  screwing people  financially....
			
		
 
		
		
	
	 
	
	
	    
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