Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:21 pm
Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:36 pm
Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:16 am
Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:28 am
Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:50 am
AfricanBluebird wrote:I think it's true to say that Jay had his best spell of football at Cardiff and enjoyed himself immeasurably.
A shame we never got promoted with him and a team full of wonderful players. It was often the best football I've seen us play.
Jay had everything.. pace, power & finishing.
Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:11 am
JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:50 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:54 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:48 pm
JJ1927 wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:I think it's true to say that Jay had his best spell of football at Cardiff and enjoyed himself immeasurably.
A shame we never got promoted with him and a team full of wonderful players. It was often the best football I've seen us play.
Jay had everything.. pace, power & finishing.
He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:18 pm
Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:39 pm
Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:42 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:I think it's true to say that Jay had his best spell of football at Cardiff and enjoyed himself immeasurably.
A shame we never got promoted with him and a team full of wonderful players. It was often the best football I've seen us play.
Jay had everything.. pace, power & finishing.
He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
How we didn't even get promoted, I'll never know.
I would also include Olofinjana in that, who I think was one of the best loan signings we made. Made us a better team.
In the other end of the scale, the signings of Bywater and Samuel proved to be woeful. Bywater gave Dimi a run for his money, in terms of bad goalkeepers.
The thing is, it's the fine balance of attractive football and success.
Most of the football we played under Jones was brilliant to watch, but he will go down as a failure because he failed to get us promoted when he had a great squad for several years.
Our football under Warnock wasn't easy to watch at sometimes but he got us promoted and very nearly kept us up.
Then there's Malky when we won the league in his second season. Our football was more entertaining than under Warnock but nowhere near the level as to when Jones was in charge. He may well have kept us up as well, we'll never know.
One thing I'm sure of is that if Jones had got us promoted, he would have kept us in the Premier League for at least the first season. We could even still be there now if that happened.
Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:51 pm
JJ1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
I remember we won 4-0 at Leeds at end of October.It was on Sky and we looked unstoppable. We then lost at home to the Jacks i think and seemed to hit a slump.Dave Jones- who I cant fault for his style of football- seemed to have this habbit of being unable to pull us out of a bad patch. Think there were issues off the pitch as well towards the end of the season. Shame because it was a great side.
Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:13 pm
skidemin wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
I remember we won 4-0 at Leeds at end of October.It was on Sky and we looked unstoppable. We then lost at home to the Jacks i think and seemed to hit a slump.Dave Jones- who I cant fault for his style of football- seemed to have this habbit of being unable to pull us out of a bad patch. Think there were issues off the pitch as well towards the end of the season. Shame because it was a great side.
too many flawed diamonds...quite a few of that team had the ability to have been playing at a higher level and would never have played for us had they been model pros..
Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:44 am
Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
I remember we won 4-0 at Leeds at end of October.It was on Sky and we looked unstoppable. We then lost at home to the Jacks i think and seemed to hit a slump.Dave Jones- who I cant fault for his style of football- seemed to have this habbit of being unable to pull us out of a bad patch. Think there were issues off the pitch as well towards the end of the season. Shame because it was a great side.
too many flawed diamonds...quite a few of that team had the ability to have been playing at a higher level and would never have played for us had they been model pros..
Even more credit to the much-maligned DJ, then...
Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:33 pm
Sven wrote:skidemin wrote:JJ1927 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:JJ1927 wrote:He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
Bloody good question!
I remember we won 4-0 at Leeds at end of October.It was on Sky and we looked unstoppable. We then lost at home to the Jacks i think and seemed to hit a slump.Dave Jones- who I cant fault for his style of football- seemed to have this habbit of being unable to pull us out of a bad patch. Think there were issues off the pitch as well towards the end of the season. Shame because it was a great side.
too many flawed diamonds...quite a few of that team had the ability to have been playing at a higher level and would never have played for us had they been model pros..
Even more credit to the much-maligned DJ, then...
Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:16 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:JJ1927 wrote:AfricanBluebird wrote:I think it's true to say that Jay had his best spell of football at Cardiff and enjoyed himself immeasurably.
A shame we never got promoted with him and a team full of wonderful players. It was often the best football I've seen us play.
Jay had everything.. pace, power & finishing.
He was an intergral part of probably the best side we have had since i started watching the City and i have been doing so for 50 plus years. Apart from Bothroyd we had Bellamy, Chopra, Whittingham, Marshall, McNaughton, etc for the whole season and for various parts of it Ramsey, Drinkwater, Koumas and i seem to recall Ross McCormack. What a side!! How didnt we walk the league?
How we didn't even get promoted, I'll never know.
I would also include Olofinjana in that, who I think was one of the best loan signings we made. Made us a better team.
In the other end of the scale, the signings of Bywater and Samuel proved to be woeful. Bywater gave Dimi a run for his money, in terms of bad goalkeepers.
The thing is, it's the fine balance of attractive football and success.
Most of the football we played under Jones was brilliant to watch, but he will go down as a failure because he failed to get us promoted when he had a great squad for several years.
Our football under Warnock wasn't easy to watch at sometimes but he got us promoted and very nearly kept us up.
Then there's Malky when we won the league in his second season. Our football was more entertaining than under Warnock but nowhere near the level as to when Jones was in charge. He may well have kept us up as well, we'll never know.
One thing I'm sure of is that if Jones had got us promoted, he would have kept us in the Premier League for at least the first season. We could even still be there now if that happened.