Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:24 pm
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:29 pm
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:53 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Did anybody else have cups thrown at them?
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:26 am
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:45 am
pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Did anybody else have cups thrown at them?
Yes at both corners of ground where the ultras were ........ but what got me was ssn just banged on & on & on for around 5mins about how they saw 4 individuals shouting abuse at sterling and Bellingham.. but in case of sterling he was stupid he went over to their fans and shows slogan on tshirt innocent enough but why go to the area where he knew he get abused for taunting them after he scored .... ssn was going to ask England players were they aware of abuse even though they had said England players couldn't hear it (except 2 players mentioned) because was so loud in stadium ..... undoubtedly there will be sanctions against Hungary again!
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:48 am
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:15 am
Blue78 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Did anybody else have cups thrown at them?
Yes at both corners of ground where the ultras were ........ but what got me was ssn just banged on & on & on for around 5mins about how they saw 4 individuals shouting abuse at sterling and Bellingham.. but in case of sterling he was stupid he went over to their fans and shows slogan on tshirt innocent enough but why go to the area where he knew he get abused for taunting them after he scored .... ssn was going to ask England players were they aware of abuse even though they had said England players couldn't hear it (except 2 players mentioned) because was so loud in stadium ..... undoubtedly there will be sanctions against Hungary again!
Firstly, Sterling should be able to go anywhere in that stadium and not have abuse thrown at him and secondly, if people are going to throw abuse at him why does it have to be racial?
Nothing about that makes Sterling stupid.
Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:42 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:When is someone going to have the guts to point out that there has been a surge in racist abuse since the black lives matter organisation stuck its nose into football?
Maybe if we started with getting rid of that awful divisive knee gesture and took the BLM politics out of football and return the fight against racism to the kick it out campaign we might start seeing a reversal in this behaviour.
In the meantime if Sterling and other black players want to make their own personal stand against racism then instead of inciting crowds with slogans maybe they should go out and play so brilliantly that they thrash the opposition teams
Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:00 am
Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:04 pm
Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:43 pm
Pat Turd wrote:How many times do the English FA have to say this is not about the political group BLM, are you just not prepared to accept that ?
Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:33 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Blue78 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Did anybody else have cups thrown at them?
Yes at both corners of ground where the ultras were ........ but what got me was ssn just banged on & on & on for around 5mins about how they saw 4 individuals shouting abuse at sterling and Bellingham.. but in case of sterling he was stupid he went over to their fans and shows slogan on tshirt innocent enough but why go to the area where he knew he get abused for taunting them after he scored .... ssn was going to ask England players were they aware of abuse even though they had said England players couldn't hear it (except 2 players mentioned) because was so loud in stadium ..... undoubtedly there will be sanctions against Hungary again!
Firstly, Sterling should be able to go anywhere in that stadium and not have abuse thrown at him and secondly, if people are going to throw abuse at him why does it have to be racial?
Nothing about that makes Sterling stupid.
So if a Swansea player went over to canton stand and goaded city fans hes not stupid or asking for a reaction? And if hes black he is very likely to be abused aswell for his stupidity... thats basically what sterling did it's not right but what did he expect chears and a standing ovation for scoring in an away ground? If you saw pictures after game you'd see those fans were ultras and extremely excited and vocal just like in game.... And having
previously been charged for racism
it was excellent idea for sterling
to stoke up the crowd..... "NOT RIGHT" but what did he expect
Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:30 am
Blue78 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Blue78 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:rumpo kid wrote:Did anybody else have cups thrown at them?
Yes at both corners of ground where the ultras were ........ but what got me was ssn just banged on & on & on for around 5mins about how they saw 4 individuals shouting abuse at sterling and Bellingham.. but in case of sterling he was stupid he went over to their fans and shows slogan on tshirt innocent enough but why go to the area where he knew he get abused for taunting them after he scored .... ssn was going to ask England players were they aware of abuse even though they had said England players couldn't hear it (except 2 players mentioned) because was so loud in stadium ..... undoubtedly there will be sanctions against Hungary again!
Firstly, Sterling should be able to go anywhere in that stadium and not have abuse thrown at him and secondly, if people are going to throw abuse at him why does it have to be racial?
Nothing about that makes Sterling stupid.
So if a Swansea player went over to canton stand and goaded city fans hes not stupid or asking for a reaction? And if hes black he is very likely to be abused aswell for his stupidity... thats basically what sterling did it's not right but what did he expect chears and a standing ovation for scoring in an away ground? If you saw pictures after game you'd see those fans were ultras and extremely excited and vocal just like in game.... And having
previously been charged for racism
it was excellent idea for sterling
to stoke up the crowd..... "NOT RIGHT" but what did he expect
Of course they would get and should expect to get abuse. However it should never be racist however much they goad a crowd (who by the way are pretty good at goading players all of the time).
What you seem to be suggesting is because Sterling is black and the crowd are known racists, he should stay well away? They can’t be right on any level. Would it have been ok if Kane had done it?
I’ll admit I haven’t seen what he did, apart from show a slogan on a t-shirt with a tribute to a friend on it who die this week?
Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:23 am
Pat Turd wrote:So it's Sterling's fault for celebrating and the English FA for taking the knee ?
Come on lads, stop it ! Just stop trying to deny that racism exists and that some people want to change this.
How many times do the English FA have to say this is not about the political group BLM, are you just not prepared to accept that ?
I can understand that people think it's not for them, I don't like it, I'd prefer a different approach but to say it's the reason that Hungarian Ultras are racist or worse racists is just so wrong.
As a previous poster says, Sterling should be able to celebrate as he wishes, at the end he scored at. That's normal. Are you suggesting that England should have kept the score down as not to upset the Hungarian fans. And also, if they dish it out as hard men then why should they be so upset if it comes back.
At the end of the day if those idiot, black T shirt wearing hard men gang of sad Ultras weren't racist or homophobic we wouldn't be having this conversation.
They ARE racist, they DID make Monkey noises. it happened, so why are you trying to justify it ?
It's wrong.
Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:56 am
Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:56 am
Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:43 am
Pat Turd wrote:So it's Sterling's fault for celebrating and the English FA for taking the knee ?
Come on lads, stop it ! Just stop trying to deny that racism exists and that some people want to change this.
How many times do the English FA have to say this is not about the political group BLM, are you just not prepared to accept that ?
I can understand that people think it's not for them, I don't like it, I'd prefer a different approach but to say it's the reason that Hungarian Ultras are racist or worse racists is just so wrong.
As a previous poster says, Sterling should be able to celebrate as he wishes, at the end he scored at. That's normal. Are you suggesting that England should have kept the score down as not to upset the Hungarian fans. And also, if they dish it out as hard men then why should they be so upset if it comes back.
At the end of the day if those idiot, black T shirt wearing hard men gang of sad Ultras weren't racist or homophobic we wouldn't be having this conversation.
They ARE racist, they DID make Monkey noises. it happened, so why are you trying to justify it ?
It's wrong.
Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:29 pm
Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:01 pm
NPCF3 wrote:Then BT Sport/"Hope not Hate" say "Hope 4-0 Hate"...![]()
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So all of Hungary is "hate"?![]()
Where will this division end?
Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:25 pm
Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:41 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:NPCF3 wrote:Then BT Sport/"Hope not Hate" say "Hope 4-0 Hate"...![]()
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So all of Hungary is "hate"?![]()
Where will this division end?
With you on that.
For them to post that, is at best misguided. They've obviously been taken in by the tabloids suggesting that all of Hungary is racist.
You can't accuse an entire nation, religion or state of being racist or extremist.
It's a bit like accusing all Muslims of being terrorists, it's just not a fair or true comment to make.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:17 pm
Tue Sep 07, 2021 9:04 am
rumpo kid wrote:It’s the ‘ all Cardiff fans are hooligans’ mentality. Brainless drivel.