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Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their mind

Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:03 am

We won't be offering him a deal.
To many injury prone players sapping the wage bill.



Marley Watkins: Cardiff City decide not to keep Wales winger


BBC


17 August 2021

Winger Marley Watkins scored twice on his Cardiff debut in an EFL Cup win over Sutton

Cardiff City have decided not to offer Wales winger Marley Watkins a new deal.

The Wales international, 30, joined on a short-term contract until the end of August after a successful trial.

Watkins scored twice on his debut in a 3-2 EFL Cup win over Sutton United, but Bluebirds manager Mick McCarthy confirmed he will now depart.




MICK McCARTHY:


"I've decided Marley Watkins won't be staying with us... we will use the lads we have got here and I am happy with that," McCarthy told BBC Sport Wales.

Watkins had been without a club since his release from Bristol City at the end of last season.

He was left out of Cardiff's squad for Tuesday's 2-2 Championship draw at Peterborough United.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:15 am

I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:22 am

But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:23 am

Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!



I know total bizarre

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:24 am

Mick McCarthy confirmed Marley Watkins will leave Cardiff upon the expiry of his contract.

It also means Mark Harris, who has been looked at by Fleetwood and Rotherham, will stay at the club and not be loaned out .

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:39 am

Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!




havent seen any of these happy and content posts.... just acceptance that he has a contract and explaining what a contract is { not that some have grasped it } to those that keep saying get rid

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:07 pm

Right decision not to sign him. He worked hard but just wasn't worth signing in the long term, but good luck to him. Hope he finds a club but I think he may have to drop down to League One at least.


Pleased that it means that Harris is staying, he offers us a different option as Moore and Collins are similar players.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:28 pm

Will miss the lad

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 4:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!



I know total bizarre

I don't think anyone is happy with the situation.
Just being realistic. We are stuck with these players.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:15 pm

Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Speak for yourself I have been against keeping Tomlin for ages and I have seen many similar posts :?

Trouble is he has a legally binding contract with the club and we have to pay him no matter how much we would love to get rid of him.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:56 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.


I'm available, won't ask for megabucks and i am only 67

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:46 am

BC-CB wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.


I'm available, won't ask for megabucks and i am only 67

Snap but im abit younger :lol:

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:54 am

Bluebird1977 wrote:
BC-CB wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.


I'm available, won't ask for megabucks and i am only 67

Snap but im abit younger :lol:


Me i'm older than both of you but as the old saying goes " If you are good enough, you are old enough" :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:48 am

BC-CB wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.


I'm available, won't ask for megabucks and i am only 67



:lol: :lol:

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:46 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Speak for yourself I have been against keeping Tomlin for ages and I have seen many similar posts :?

Trouble is he has a legally binding contract with the club and we have to pay him no matter how much we would love to get rid of him.

Tony, you are once again spot on...! :clap:

Tomlin is no longer wanted at the club but his contract is such that he is difficult, if not impossible, to shift on, so the only alternative is to attempt to get him semi-fit to play a cameo role in our season

There are some (not many) who still seem to think he is going to change his ways and become some sort of Messiah but it ain't not gonna happen; and certainly not in a Mick McCarthy side that prides itself on fitmess, hard work and fighting for the cause (as at Peterborough when many other teams would have thrown in the towel)

Rhyswilli3303 is 'see what I want' another scan-reader of this Forum... :roll:
Seems

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:02 am

Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Speak for yourself I have been against keeping Tomlin for ages and I have seen many similar posts :?

Trouble is he has a legally binding contract with the club and we have to pay him no matter how much we would love to get rid of him.

Tony, you are once again spot on...! :clap:

Tomlin is no longer wanted at the club but his contract is such that he is difficult, if not impossible, to shift on, so the only alternative is to attempt to get him semi-fit to play a cameo role in our season

There are some (not many) who still seem to think he is going to change his ways and become some sort of Messiah but it ain't not gonna happen; and certainly not in a Mick McCarthy side that prides itself on fitmess, hard work and fighting for the cause (as at Peterborough when many other teams would have thrown in the towel)

Rhyswilli3303 is 'see what I want' another scan-reader of this Forum... :roll:
Seems


And YOU Chris are also spot on!

The club want rid of Tomlin but, of course, can do nothing about it.

It’s laughable when I see these ‘just get rid’ posts on here and especially from Fakebook.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:11 am

Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Once again a classic case of completely misunderstanding what people are saying.

There is literally no one saying “I’m so happy Tomlin is still at the club earning 20k a week while not playing.” To say so is complete bollocks but fits in with the style of some people on here who misinterpret and blatantly lie about what people are saying because anyone who puts an opposite view must love Tan, or must totally support the club. The Sol Bamba thread a perfect example of this.

It would be lovely if football contracts had get out clauses where a player was released after 90 days of inactivity but they don’t and I doubt they never will. That would be a 90 day contract. Then we could release Tomlin no problem after giving him every chance to get fit.

But what I will say (and this will be somehow probably twisted to say that I think Tomlin should be given a new deal for 5 years or something) is that when Tomlin was practically single handedly taking us into the play offs and performing well in those playoffs there weren’t many (if any) who disagreed with him being given a new contract. In fact the same people who are loudest now would have been slating the club had we not citing lack of ambition.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins

Fri Aug 20, 2021 8:12 am

Forever Blue wrote:I said once again at the time I could not believe we were signing him for any length of time, the usual suspects had ago at me.

Enough with all these injury prone players we keep signing and paying wages for.
We should not even be looking at them.


Point that message out Annis. Without editing anything find the one where you said this when Tomlin was firing us to the playoffs.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:36 am

maccydee wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Once again a classic case of completely misunderstanding what people are saying.

There is literally no one saying “I’m so happy Tomlin is still at the club earning 20k a week while not playing.” To say so is complete bollocks but fits in with the style of some people on here who misinterpret and blatantly lie about what people are saying because anyone who puts an opposite view must love Tan, or must totally support the club. The Sol Bamba thread a perfect example of this.

It would be lovely if football contracts had get out clauses where a player was released after 90 days of inactivity but they don’t and I doubt they never will. That would be a 90 day contract. Then we could release Tomlin no problem after giving him every chance to get fit.

But what I will say (and this will be somehow probably twisted to say that I think Tomlin should be given a new deal for 5 years or something) is that when Tomlin was practically single handedly taking us into the play offs and performing well in those playoffs there weren’t many (if any) who disagreed with him being given a new contract. In fact the same people who are loudest now would have been slating the club had we not citing lack of ambition.



the other side of this 90 day get out clause would of course be that if someone like KM was injured for 90 days , he would then be free to leave...

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:18 pm

skidemin wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Once again a classic case of completely misunderstanding what people are saying.

There is literally no one saying “I’m so happy Tomlin is still at the club earning 20k a week while not playing.” To say so is complete bollocks but fits in with the style of some people on here who misinterpret and blatantly lie about what people are saying because anyone who puts an opposite view must love Tan, or must totally support the club. The Sol Bamba thread a perfect example of this.

It would be lovely if football contracts had get out clauses where a player was released after 90 days of inactivity but they don’t and I doubt they never will. That would be a 90 day contract. Then we could release Tomlin no problem after giving him every chance to get fit.

But what I will say (and this will be somehow probably twisted to say that I think Tomlin should be given a new deal for 5 years or something) is that when Tomlin was practically single handedly taking us into the play offs and performing well in those playoffs there weren’t many (if any) who disagreed with him being given a new contract. In fact the same people who are loudest now would have been slating the club had we not citing lack of ambition.



the other side of this 90 day get out clause would of course be that if someone like KM was injured for 90 days , he would then be free to leave...


Absolutely.

Or a player could give 90 days notice to leave.

It does seem quite silly that we have a player in a Tomlin who hasn’t earned his wages yet nothing can be done but that is football.

Re: Good luck to Martley Watkins as Cardiff change their min

Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:41 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Sven wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Rhyswilli3303 wrote:But for some reason most of the fans on here are happy and content with us keeping Tomlin on the wage bill. The lad hasn't played a competitive game in such a long time and is just stealing a good living from the club. Our transfer philosophy is absolutely bewildering!!!


Speak for yourself I have been against keeping Tomlin for ages and I have seen many similar posts :?

Trouble is he has a legally binding contract with the club and we have to pay him no matter how much we would love to get rid of him.

Tony, you are once again spot on...! :clap:

Tomlin is no longer wanted at the club but his contract is such that he is difficult, if not impossible, to shift on, so the only alternative is to attempt to get him semi-fit to play a cameo role in our season

There are some (not many) who still seem to think he is going to change his ways and become some sort of Messiah but it ain't not gonna happen; and certainly not in a Mick McCarthy side that prides itself on fitmess, hard work and fighting for the cause (as at Peterborough when many other teams would have thrown in the towel)

Rhyswilli3303 is 'see what I want' another scan-reader of this Forum... :roll:
Seems


And YOU Chris are also spot on!

The club want rid of Tomlin but, of course, can do nothing about it.

It’s laughable when I see these ‘just get rid’ posts on here and especially from Fakebook.

Thanks, Paul; I know you know the score, too...

It's a toughie and Lee Tomlin has clearly shown he has no shame or fortitude to help the situation positively :oops:

Some people have spirit and conscience; some people simply don't...! :roll: