Monmouth wrote:Thank you Sven for that contribution, when I say newbie I’ve been on here a while but haven’t posted that much mainly because most of the points I would contribute have already been stated and to be fair probably better than I could.
When I have posted in the past it’s been stated by a few that my posts are irrelevant because of the lack of posts I’ve put on here so ......
Monmouth wrote:Sven
Your inference that I have another name is unfounded.
I have not lied - the term newbie is in relevance and in relation to the amount of posts I’ve actually made,
If I have an opinion on any other team international or otherwise I will express it , if you or anyone else disagree that’s fine - it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. As I said we seem to have gone a long way off topic which was Harry Wilson - I wonder why that’s happened ??
I’m well aware of the expression you have used - I just don’t practice it.
Here’s another one -:
The narcissist measures and judges but will not tolerate being judged
Monmouth wrote:Sven
Your inference that I have another name is unfounded.
I have not lied - the term newbie is in relevance and in relation to the amount of posts I’ve actually made,
If I have an opinion on any other team international or otherwise I will express it , if you or anyone else disagree that’s fine - it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. As I said we seem to have gone a long way off topic which was Harry Wilson - I wonder why that’s happened ??
I’m well aware of the expression you have used - I just don’t practice it.
Here’s another one -:
The narcissist measures and judges but will not tolerate being judged
WestCoastBlue wrote:Monmouth wrote:Sven
Your inference that I have another name is unfounded.
I have not lied - the term newbie is in relevance and in relation to the amount of posts I’ve actually made,
If I have an opinion on any other team international or otherwise I will express it , if you or anyone else disagree that’s fine - it doesn’t mean I’m wrong. As I said we seem to have gone a long way off topic which was Harry Wilson - I wonder why that’s happened ??
I’m well aware of the expression you have used - I just don’t practice it.
Here’s another one -:
The narcissist measures and judges but will not tolerate being judged
I wouldn’t read into it too much mate. It’s a right of passage for people with under 20k posts to be accused of being (presumably) Roathie
Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
pembroke allan wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
We spent money before pandemic or was our signings like Moore done on pro bona basis? Club like everyone else have had no gate receipts no sponsorship or bare minimum at best so wonder why clubs have got no or barely nothing to spend on players ..... the landscape of football as changed for ever in efl
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
With no gate receipts Annis.
It’s simply a fact that with every other owner we have had for the last 40 years (aside from a couple of years) we have had to sell players to keep operating and that was with season ticket sales and gate receipts. Without those two huge income streams we are bound to lose money and the fact we haven’t had issues paying wages and HMRC is a huge positive.
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
With no gate receipts Annis.
It’s simply a fact that with every other owner we have had for the last 40 years (aside from a couple of years) we have had to sell players to keep operating and that was with season ticket sales and gate receipts. Without those two huge income streams we are bound to lose money and the fact we haven’t had issues paying wages and HMRC is a huge positive.
Neil,
£36mill parachute payments last season.
Plus City gained about £50,000 a home game from tv payments of fans, plus quite a few hundred thousand pounds from sky live
Matches.
Plus our wages once again were reduced .
We also had more money in from same of players than buying.
Merchandise sale and Sponsors.
I reckon £40mill in total came in last season.
Hopefully Big Mick can perform miracles .
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
With no gate receipts Annis.
It’s simply a fact that with every other owner we have had for the last 40 years (aside from a couple of years) we have had to sell players to keep operating and that was with season ticket sales and gate receipts. Without those two huge income streams we are bound to lose money and the fact we haven’t had issues paying wages and HMRC is a huge positive.
Neil,
£36mill parachute payments last season.
Plus City gained about £50,000 a home game from tv payments of fans, plus quite a few hundred thousand pounds from sky live
Matches.
Plus our wages once again were reduced .
We also had more money in from same of players than buying.
Merchandise sale and Sponsors.
I reckon £40mill in total came in last season.
Hopefully Big Mick can perform miracles .
Ah well. What we gonna do?
Enjoy no HMRC cases every year I do.
Fans will be back soon. Gonna be class and Wilson is gonna score about 20 goals for Fulham.
If we had Tony Khan as our owner I wonder what we would moan about then?
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
WestCoastBlue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Does that include wages, agents fees, bonuses, all the money spent on “free” transfers and loans, etc?
Also considering all the stick the club (Tan) gets for the debt, shouldn’t the fact the club are trying to better manage our finances?
WestCoastBlue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Does that include wages, agents fees, bonuses, all the money spent on “free” transfers and loans, etc?
Also considering all the stick the club (Tan) gets for the debt, shouldn’t the fact the club are trying to better manage our finances?
Forever Blue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Does that include wages, agents fees, bonuses, all the money spent on “free” transfers and loans, etc?
Also considering all the stick the club (Tan) gets for the debt, shouldn’t the fact the club are trying to better manage our finances?
12 yrs later they are trying
WestCoastBlue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Does that include wages, agents fees, bonuses, all the money spent on “free” transfers and loans, etc?
Also considering all the stick the club (Tan) gets for the debt, shouldn’t the fact the club are trying to better manage our finances?
12 yrs later they are trying
11 years* And surely trying now is better than doing nothing? Plenty of clubs in the past 11 years have had serious problems from mismanaged finances which thankfully we’ve not had to deal with yet.
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Well thats a 1st in ages, where we have brought in more than going out?? Id ssy that was good business for once.
Forever Blue wrote::sleepy2:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Well thats a 1st in ages, where we have brought in more than going out?? Id ssy that was good business for once.
Not if you don’t go up, cost us.
Sold players to cheap as well
maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote::sleepy2:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Well thats a 1st in ages, where we have brought in more than going out?? Id ssy that was good business for once.
Not if you don’t go up, cost us.
Sold players to cheap as well
Who did we sell too cheap?
Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Forever Blue wrote::sleepy2:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:maccydee wrote:Monmouth wrote:I agree, the money went many moons before the virus, if your blaming the virus you may as well blame Brexit or the blockage of the Suez Canal. It’s irrelevant the money has gone.
Yes this is the first summer we haven’t signed players for cash. Every other transfer window we have.
Plus, transfer window isn’t over yet.
The inference the money has gone isn’t true. The Money was gone when wages weren’t being paid or HMRC weren’t being paid or our captain was being sold for 200k.
Simply hasn’t happened and won’t happen under VT’s watch.
Neil , last season we spent less than we brought in, in transfers a fact, so we never spent anything then either.
Well thats a 1st in ages, where we have brought in more than going out?? Id ssy that was good business for once.
Not if you don’t go up, cost us.
Sold players to cheap as well
Who did we sell too cheap?
Neil, I could write a book we’ve gone through it all this season gone and before etc etc and all debated it.
I will say , only this I am very very worried.
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