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STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN !!

Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:10 pm

It's a sad time when in Canada thugs and criminal behaviour individuals torn down statues of the Queen and Queen Victoria.
Disgraceful behaviour from the Canadian thugs.
:x :x

Link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57693683
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Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:19 pm

Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:20 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?


I just hate it when people disrespect the uk.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Fri Jul 02, 2021 5:29 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?


I just hate it when people disrespect the uk.


f*cking hell mate

I think they’re a little bit preoccupied to worry about your feelings right now. What with the whole ethnic cleansing and killing children. Of all the stuff coming out of Canada, this is what you’re focusing on :oops:

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:44 pm

It’s going on in China now.. yet no marches or rioting outside the Chinese Embassy by the anarchist crusties. Its very odd.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:48 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?

If, as you say, this was going on as late as the 90's by the Canadian government - an independent state within the Commonwealth-what the hell has it to do with the present day queen. And, as I understand, most of the schools were run by the Catholic church, their ire should be turned towards the Pope if thats the way they express their feelings. Just another excuse for the woke anarchists to use a terrible tragedy for their own ends.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 2:34 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?

If, as you say, this was going on as late as the 90's by the Canadian government - an independent state within the Commonwealth-what the hell has it to do with the present day queen. And, as I understand, most of the schools were run by the Catholic church, their ire should be turned towards the Pope if thats the way they express their feelings. Just another excuse for the woke anarchists to use a terrible tragedy for their own ends.


Their ire has been turned towards the Catholic church. So far there’s been about a dozen churches burnt to the ground in Canada, another element of this situation which makes complaining a statue being defaced a bit silly.

As for defacing stautes of the queens. She was/is head of the Church of England. The CoE ran several of the residential schools in Canada where indigenous children were forced away from their families and assimilated into Canadian society with a multitude of horrific measures. The other aspect of which the monarchy are a part of this situation is of course it’s involvement in colonialism and the British Empire.

Of course this is just stupid, mindless vandalism and doesn’t achieve anything, one of the churches burnt down was Ukrainian Orthodox which had nothing to do with the residential schools. People are acting out of anger not logic.
However of all the stories coming out of Canada at the moment, if you’re focusing on a statue being toppled you should probably take a step back and read the conceptual room.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:12 pm

WestCoastBlue wrote:
JJ1927 wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?

If, as you say, this was going on as late as the 90's by the Canadian government - an independent state within the Commonwealth-what the hell has it to do with the present day queen. And, as I understand, most of the schools were run by the Catholic church, their ire should be turned towards the Pope if thats the way they express their feelings. Just another excuse for the woke anarchists to use a terrible tragedy for their own ends.


Their ire has been turned towards the Catholic church. So far there’s been about a dozen churches burnt to the ground in Canada, another element of this situation which makes complaining a statue being defaced a bit silly.

As for defacing stautes of the queens. She was/is head of the Church of England. The CoE ran several of the residential schools in Canada where indigenous children were forced away from their families and assimilated into Canadian society with a multitude of horrific measures. The other aspect of which the monarchy are a part of this situation is of course it’s involvement in colonialism and the British Empire.

Of course this is just stupid, mindless vandalism and doesn’t achieve anything, one of the churches burnt down was Ukrainian Orthodox which had nothing to do with the residential schools. People are acting out of anger not logic.
However of all the stories coming out of Canada at the moment, if you’re focusing on a statue being toppled you should probably take a step back and read the conceptual room.

We are probably on the same side on much of this but what gets my back up is the protestors were mainly white and therefore the direct descendants of those people who populated the country in the nineteenth century and who inflicted grave injustices on the native population. I am not saying they share any guilt for that but by the same token nor does the queen or the current British state.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:36 pm

Do people think all the indigenous tribes in the Americas were all living peacefully until the evil Europeans arrived?

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:19 pm

Jock wrote:Do people think all the indigenous tribes in the Americas were all living peacefully until the evil Europeans arrived?

Most of the world was living in perfect harmony apparently. Whilst i dont condone much of what went on this whole woke debate does remind me of the Monty Python sketch "What did the Romans ever do for us"

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:40 pm

All you do is move a timeline. It’s the Africans fault for migrating to Europe.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:05 pm

JJ1927 wrote:
Jock wrote:Do people think all the indigenous tribes in the Americas were all living peacefully until the evil Europeans arrived?

Most of the world was living in perfect harmony apparently. Whilst i dont condone much of what went on this whole woke debate does remind me of the Monty Python sketch "What did the Romans ever do for us"

There’s a weird masochistic, self loathing element to it, all these peaceful people living round the World till we spoiled everything. Everything like war, ritual human sacrifice and canabilism.

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:22 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:
WestCoastBlue wrote:Mate.
Hundreds, if not thousands, of children have been found in unmarked graves at schools that were set up to eliminate the indigenous population and their culture. Schools that were still running by the church and Canadian government as late as the 90’s... and this is the bit you’re upset about? :?


I just hate it when people disrespect the uk.


Get the same hear sadly ,noticed the authorities didn't try stop it , they just observe ,cancel culture marches on and folk are scared to react in case the race card gets pulled out.

There's a lot of Welsh that are very anti British

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:26 pm

But speak English.. :P

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:29 pm

Jock wrote:Do people think all the indigenous tribes in the Americas were all living peacefully until the evil Europeans arrived?



they were at peace mate ,the whole world was and had been for centuries at least thats what it says on big berts 2 bob blogg....

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:09 pm

F*cking Canadian crusties. Luckily we didn’t have to rely on people like this during WW11. Will always be proud of my country Great Britain, will always be proud to be British and Welsh, and proud of my countries history. Pulling down statues of the monarchy is not only disgusting but massively disrespectful towards the British people as a collective :bluebird:

Re: STATUES OF QUEEN VICTORIA & QUEEN ELIZABETH II TORN DOWN

Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:25 pm

skidemin wrote:
Jock wrote:Do people think all the indigenous tribes in the Americas were all living peacefully until the evil Europeans arrived?



they were at peace mate ,the whole world was and had been for centuries at least thats what it says on big berts 2 bob blogg....


Whose big Bert??