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Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:53 pm

But the ref must be on drugs right?

In all fairness, the progress until now has been flattering and the Danes (who I think will be average in the context of proceedings) will be seen as a notable team more so for the traumatic events in their first game.

Just great to be in a tournament and a bonus that Kieffer won’t have attracted more suitors post first game

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:59 pm

Dazzy wrote:But the ref must be on drugs right?

In all fairness, the progress until now has been flattering and the Danes (who I think will be average in the context of proceedings) will be seen as a notable team more so for the traumatic events in their first game.

Just great to be in a tournament and a bonus that Kieffer won’t have attracted more suitors post first game

Have to agree with all that. Ref was awful but we were beaten by better side.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:03 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
Dazzy wrote:But the ref must be on drugs right?

In all fairness, the progress until now has been flattering and the Danes (who I think will be average in the context of proceedings) will be seen as a notable team more so for the traumatic events in their first game.

Just great to be in a tournament and a bonus that Kieffer won’t have attracted more suitors post first game

Have to agree with all that. Ref was awful but we were beaten by better side.


No complaints but the second goal killed the game and it was a clear foul on Kieffer. Ref had an absolute stinker but Denmark took control after ten minutes and we had no answers..

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:05 pm

The future is bright though. Looking back at the trajectory of progress it’s brilliant. Let’s not dwell on Bale and look at teams like the opposition today. The Danes probably had better dispersed quality and we’re heading that way

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:15 pm

Dazzy wrote:The future is bright though. Looking back at the trajectory of progress it’s brilliant. Let’s not dwell on Bale and look at teams like the opposition today. The Danes probably had better dispersed quality and we’re heading that way



More astute manager is more the point saw a problem changed things after 15mins it worked... page did nothing to counter act this change at any time in game.....

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:22 pm

True. Be interesting to see what happens next. Unsure Page has done enough if there’s a search for a new permanent manager

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:24 pm

correct but the most painful thing today was listening to that knobhead savage

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:28 pm

Page is massively out of his depth(not his fault).A big decision needs to be made before the World Cup qualifying group starts back.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:39 pm

We were out thought and out coached. Big decision for the FAW so I expect them to fcuk it up.

The ref had a shocker but not as much as Page and his management team.

The game is changing it will soon be a non contact almost touch football.

Eufa's green credentials have taken a right kickin, this must be the daftest format ever. None of this mattered. Bale and Ramsey are on the down grade, the back four and midfield are only championship grade. We are what we are and that's how i always remember it.

Be really interesting on the "red walls" loyalty if we have a bit of a big name dip....

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:40 pm

FAW need to be quick about this Giggs in court March 2022 at the earliest. He should stand down as it will probably go into August.

The should advertise the position again and let Page apply for it at least we can see who is out there. Otherwise the World Cup will be another loss.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:56 pm

Page agree is out of his depth
so was morrell and our plan b was not implemented if we had one

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:07 pm

We have got some promising youngs lads in this team. We need to stop pissing about with giggs and page and get an experienced manager in.

No idea what Morrell does to get picked every game either.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:10 pm

We've just been outplayed and out thought and out fought.

There are some quality coaches/ managers about.

Not sure we could attract any.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:12 pm

I’d be on the phone Roy Hodgson with a two year contract.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:16 pm

The squad and the potential that there is beneath them (age wise) deserves a strong and confident decision. If it were me, I’d be SOS to Bellers (although I want him as a Bluebirds manager first). Let’s believe. It’s the strongest squad that there’s ever been imo - Esp defensively which obviously can be questioned on today’s result - I remember squad after squad including defenders in the 3rd and 4th tier. Let’s think big and we might get there

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:20 pm

ESCOTT 1927

morrell lower league player left behind at fault for 2 goals in the tournament
Big mistake by page also not to take kanu still banging rhem in for w.b.a hardly played roberts
I would have given brooks 1st half and james 2nd half to run at a tired defence but page picked same team

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:35 pm

Tactics were left wanting. The Danes had an immediate plan B and other things up their sleeves. NOTHING from Page.

Simply naive. Its harsh to stick the knife in considering the situation but, should he apply, I’ll definitely be campaigning for him not to get the job! It’s been the easiest tournament to qualify for for decades and Turkey embodied that. Page has done nothing to gain a permanent role imo. The best performance of the tournament, imo, was against Italy ( a good team who we almost got a result against). The Swiss battered us let’s not forget

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:44 pm

montyblue wrote:ESCOTT 1927

morrell lower league player left behind at fault for 2 goals in the tournament
Big mistake by page also not to take kanu still banging rhem in for w.b.a hardly played roberts
I would have given brooks 1st half and james 2nd half to run at a tired defence but page picked same team


I dont rate page at all. The danes had a plan b today and completely controlled the game after about 15mins. I dont think page had a plan b and looked like he had no idea how to change the game. Not sure who I'd get in but think the person needs some experience. I think we've wasted this tournament with page.

Regarding Morrell, Cardiff bias aside, is he really better than vaulks?

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:50 pm

Worst Wales game in a long time that.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:56 pm

Escott1927 wrote:
montyblue wrote:ESCOTT 1927

morrell lower league player left behind at fault for 2 goals in the tournament
Big mistake by page also not to take kanu still banging rhem in for w.b.a hardly played roberts
I would have given brooks 1st half and james 2nd half to run at a tired defence but page picked same team


I dont rate page at all. The danes had a plan b today and completely controlled the game after about 15mins. I dont think page had a plan b and looked like he had no idea how to change the game. Not sure who I'd get in but think the person needs some experience. I think we've wasted this tournament with page.

Regarding Morrell, Cardiff bias aside, is he really better than vaulks?


No

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:06 pm

Vaulks over morrell everytime
And this was our heaviest defeat in 9 years

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:25 pm

I’d love to know why Vaulks wasn’t picked. There is no obvious reason. I’m not saying that now that we’re out. I was honestly confused by that from the start

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:57 pm

Denmark won one group game to qualify and this was the first time they left Copenhagen. We've been to Baku and Rome enroute with barely a fan in sight.
Players looked leggy at best and Ramsey anonymous after the first ten minutes.
Denmark won the midfield and controlled the game from there. With help from a very poor ref. Really not sure why Page is getting any stick. Our big guns didn't perform and when they don't we can expect to beat very good teams like Denmark.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:46 pm

I’d get Coleman back.

Punched above with him.

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:05 pm

Give DENMARK some credit please :shock:

Re: Battered and outplayed

Sun Jun 27, 2021 8:23 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Dazzy wrote:The future is bright though. Looking back at the trajectory of progress it’s brilliant. Let’s not dwell on Bale and look at teams like the opposition today. The Danes probably had better dispersed quality and we’re heading that way



More astute manager is more the point saw a problem changed things after 15mins it worked... page did nothing to counter act this change at any time in game.....

All that’s not true, Bale swapped sides of the pitch….and his marker followed him :thumbright: