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' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:18 am

DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH SCOTT?



Media Wales columnist / City fan

Scott Johnson:

Really disappointed that Cardiff have cut Sol Bamba and Joe Bennett. I get people on here all the time saying that you can’t be sentimental. YES YOU CAN! Cardiff are pretty terrible at this sort of legacy stuff. I understand that money is tight, but guys, c’mon. Have a heart!
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Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:29 am

I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:32 am

Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.



Absolutely spot on Keith, I have to agree with you.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:45 am

I think before people all start jumping to conclusions we should wait until the explanations behind these decisions are made public.
With Sol, he had stated earlier that he wanted another season playing, that would always be a difficult one for City, Sol is 36 has just recovered from cancer with all the debilitating treatment which is involved with that, he was only getting limited game time prior to his illness, it is likely that Mick was not able to give him the reassurance of first-team football next season. No doubt his personality will be missed around the club.

With Bennett, he wanted a least 2 year contract on improved terms at the age of 32. I think he should wake up and smell the coffee, Covid has changed football and the money is simply not there any more. If its to be believed the club offered him a 1 year deal on reduced terms which given all the circumstances was about right.

I would hope that these decisions were made based on many factors in each case.

Life goes on in football I would wish all players the best of luck as they exit the CCFC door. I am sure that Mick has all the knowledge and experience to assemble a quality squad for next season within the new normal of football in 2021

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:48 am

The board have to make their decisions on what is best for Cardiff City football club rather than individual players. That is their responsibility to the fans and to the club. Anything else is just nonsense.They have made the right decision and deserve to be congratulated on it rather than be criticised by some virtue signalling pundit.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:51 am

Crayfish wrote:The board have to make their decisions on what is best for Cardiff City football club rather than individual players. That is their responsibility to the fans and to the club. Anything else is just nonsense.They have made the right decision and deserve to be congratulated on it rather than be criticised by some virtue signalling pundit.

Yes I agree. I love Sol and JB is a good left back but totally agree mate. Would love Sol to return coaching though

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:51 am

‘Legacy stuff’... what exactly is that.

Another poor article from him, it’s the standard of journalism we have to suffer in South Wales these days. They get other jobs like everyone else. Don’t see KW or MB still paid by the Western Mail..

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:29 am

Don't agree with this at all. The club have definitely made the right decision.

Sad to see Bamba go but he wants to play for another season. He wasn't playing before his illness so he isnt going to get game time here. Bennet is a high earner and is going to miss big chunk of next season. Sounds like he wasn't willing to accept less money. Hoilet is also a high earner and wasn't playing under mick.

You're probably looking at a 50k saving a week in wages with those 3 players. We can probably bring in 4-5 players on less than that who will contribute to the team more.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:38 am

Sound business sense, JB is 31, better to invest in a younger player Who will get better under MM.
Good luck to JB tho and Sol, who will hopefully come back in a coaching capacity.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:02 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.

Totally agree

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:17 pm

Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.

I wanted Sol to stay; but you make a fair point very well... :thumbup:

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:05 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.

Totally agree


Yes, it is sad for Sol to be going but he, like Bennett, probably had the opportunity to sign another deal prior to illness/injury and things have now changed. Bennett will get another good contract elsewhere but I guess Sol just wants to prove to himself that he can have one more season playing and those opportunities would have been limited with us.

I, like others, would still love to see Sol back here coaching as I think he'd have a really good influence behind the scenes and that type of continuity is something we've missed as a club for years.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:41 pm

I never seem to agree with anything that Scott Johnson says. And this is no exception

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:46 pm

At the moment no one except the club and the players themselves know what the situation was. For all we know both could have been informally told what the club was willing to offer them but they felt it wasn't for them.

Very sad to see Sol go and would be very disappointed if nothing was offered to him.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:12 pm

Both players have been a credit to the club and I have said on several occasions in the past that Joe Bennett is the best LB I’ve seen since supporting the club in 1988. However, for financial reasons, releasing both players was the correct decision if a wage appropriate to the clubs finances (and factoring in Bamba’s squad status as a fringe player) was not accepted, although I am surprised Joe was only offered 1 year.

Great memories of both and I’m sure they’d be made welcome at the CCS in the future. I never did get to ask Sol why he did an American style salute. :lol: Would love him back as a coach in 12 months time.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:54 pm

Ridiculous bamba and bennett have also done very well put of Cardiff on very nice contracts. Bamba would not get in the team and bennett is back in Oct so great to see the business side tale the priority.

Bamba back as a coach would be brilliant.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:15 pm

Maybe the journo can pay them his salary if he is that concerned.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:28 pm

It'll be interesting to see who they both sign for...

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:29 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Maybe the journo can pay them his salary if he is that concerned.


Or may be the Clowns who are in charge with the transfers and every day running of a club - work out the maths ;)

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:38 pm

He needs to grow up to be honest.

Sol has been through something nobody would wish on anyone and Joe had a bad injury at the end of last season but both players in their profession are priveledged and have probably earned more in 1 year at Cardiff than the average person in South Wales would in a lifetime.

Stuff like this is an insult to the average man on the street

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:42 am

Biggest question here has to be what is Sol's opinion? The guy wants to play again and knowing he may not feature much talks may have instantly been about him wanting to leave for first team football.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:23 am

I would love Sol to stay on at the club as a coach and back-up player. But apparently, based on comments he and others have made, wants to play for another year on a more regular basis than we can guarantee him.

I dearly love Sol and think he has been a tremendous person for our club, on and off the pitch. But that can't justify ensuring him a place in the team.

As for Bennett... we don't know if/what the club offered him. I think there are younger, cheaper players more suited to the wing back position than him. A great player but much less sentiment over his departure than Sols.

I usually agree with Scott but on this occasion disagree with him.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:33 am

None of the departures were a surprise, Hoilett doesn't play anymore, Bennett wanted a big contract at 32 and Bamba wanted one final hurrah when he wasn't in our team before his unfortunate illness. Hopefully Bamba gets a great final year somewhere and has an understanding that he will return to our coaching staff for 2022/23.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:34 am

Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.


The above is absolutely spot on :thumbup:

If Scott Johnson really believes that both Bamba and Bennett should stay on and be paid unrealistic wages for sentimental reasons then maybe he should think of funding both players wages himself?

Lets look at this from another angle. Both Bamba and Bennett made a financial decision not to accept a lower salary and showed no sentiment in their decision. So why can't the club do the same?

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:27 pm

The thing is that it wasn't about the money. If your Sol Bamba you would off felt let down by the club with the huge achievement he has accomplished month after month recently and i bet he would want to show his support for the fans by playing on the field with a smile on his face. With Bennett apparently he wanted more than just the 1 year extension but the club were only willing to give him the 1 season. So i think the club have suffered with money but if they wanted to make it then sign bennett and bamba for a season and then make money that way at least then we fans can still support the players.

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:45 pm

Sam ReaN wrote:The thing is that it wasn't about the money. If your Sol Bamba you would off felt let down by the club with the huge achievement he has accomplished month after month recently and i bet he would want to show his support for the fans by playing on the field with a smile on his face. With Bennett apparently he wanted more than just the 1 year extension but the club were only willing to give him the 1 season. So i think the club have suffered with money but if they wanted to make it then sign bennett and bamba for a season and then make money that way at least then we fans can still support the players.


Out of interest Sam how’s the journalism going?

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:12 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Ninian1962 wrote:I don`t agree with Scott on this occasion.

As lovely a man as Sol Bamba appears to be , the same people saying he should be retained on a playing contract would be criticising the club for spending £1m plus on someone who won`t be contributing to the team on the pitch.
With Joe Bennett , he was pushing for an improved contract before he had his unfortunate injury and the club can replace him with a far cheaper alternative, again saving lots of money which can help the club`s solvency,

I really think that this is a case of the club being criticised by some people whichever decision they made , so they have gone with the sound financial decision.


The above is absolutely spot on :thumbup:

If Scott Johnson really believes that both Bamba and Bennett should stay on and be paid unrealistic wages for sentimental reasons then maybe he should think of funding both players wages himself?

Lets look at this from another angle. Both Bamba and Bennett made a financial decision not to accept a lower salary and showed no sentiment in their decision. So why can't the club do the same?



agree...
non of us including Scott know what these players were offered and turned down ... so how can anyone pass judgement ?

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:27 pm

maccydee wrote:
Sam ReaN wrote:The thing is that it wasn't about the money. If your Sol Bamba you would off felt let down by the club with the huge achievement he has accomplished month after month recently and i bet he would want to show his support for the fans by playing on the field with a smile on his face. With Bennett apparently he wanted more than just the 1 year extension but the club were only willing to give him the 1 season. So i think the club have suffered with money but if they wanted to make it then sign bennett and bamba for a season and then make money that way at least then we fans can still support the players.


Out of interest Sam how’s the journalism going?



AKA..... Scott Johnson :lol:

Re: ' Cardiff City have a heart??? '

Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:06 pm

skidemin wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Sam ReaN wrote:The thing is that it wasn't about the money. If your Sol Bamba you would off felt let down by the club with the huge achievement he has accomplished month after month recently and i bet he would want to show his support for the fans by playing on the field with a smile on his face. With Bennett apparently he wanted more than just the 1 year extension but the club were only willing to give him the 1 season. So i think the club have suffered with money but if they wanted to make it then sign bennett and bamba for a season and then make money that way at least then we fans can still support the players.


Out of interest Sam how’s the journalism going?



AKA..... Scott Johnson :lol:



Absolutely awful that the last year has been for Sol, wages and a contract would be secondary to thanking his paymasters for supporting him.

He is a millionaire.

If he was that dedicated he would ply his trade free of charge to further his coaching career.

No? Why not?