Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:38 pm
Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:29 pm
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:17 pm
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:30 pm
cardiff 74 wrote:We are bigger than them I will always believe that
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:45 pm
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:06 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Not long ago we were playing Leicester in the Championship. We knocked them out of the play offs. Look where they are now to us. They are no bigger than us.
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:17 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Not long ago we were playing Leicester in the Championship. We knocked them out of the play offs. Look where they are now to us. They are no bigger than us.
Their owners run their club very well.
Have very good recruitment. They sell their players for very good profit and then reinvest it in the squad well.
Also have one of the best managers in the country.
I don't blame Brendan Rodgers for preferring to stay at Leicester than Tottenham. He's building something good there.
Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:56 pm
Wayne S wrote:I have an unhealthy hatred of Leicester City.
They were the reason points deductions were introduced for clubs going into administration.
They went into administration AFTER building their new stadium and hundreds of small businesses were never paid.
Wiped their debt clean, had a new stadium and without a points deduction went up to the Premier league the following season.
Never looked back........ at the mess they left for others.
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:15 pm
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:46 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Not long ago we were playing Leicester in the Championship. We knocked them out of the play offs. Look where they are now to us. They are no bigger than us.
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:22 am
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:33 am
Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:33 pm
Blueberry Jam wrote:Why do we always seem to miss out on top strikers. Is it because we have a crap recruitment team and we have no foresight.
We have been linked with Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkin, Jamie Vardy all of whom we let pass us by. Come on City wake up and do your job.
Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:20 pm
Big Hill Blue wrote:cardiff 74 wrote:We are bigger than them I will always believe that
Absolutely mate. We are bigger than many of the current teams in the "best league in the world ".
We should WITHOUT A DOUBT be performing on that stage.
I'm not judging it on stadium capacity as you have the occasional visitors/fans to the usual suspects.
Genuine born and bred fans...
Us, Newcastle, Leeds, maybe Man City as I'm feeling generous.
We deserve better.
C'mon City![]()
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:08 pm
CF64 BLUE wrote:Big Hill Blue wrote:cardiff 74 wrote:We are bigger than them I will always believe that
Absolutely mate. We are bigger than many of the current teams in the "best league in the world ".
We should WITHOUT A DOUBT be performing on that stage.
I'm not judging it on stadium capacity as you have the occasional visitors/fans to the usual suspects.
Genuine born and bred fans...
Us, Newcastle, Leeds, maybe Man City as I'm feeling generous.
We deserve better.
C'mon City![]()
As much as I'd like that to be the case Leicester City are a bigger club than us by a considerable distance.
Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:15 pm
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:48 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:44 am
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
so...on one hand youve got all these metrics proving one thing
but
then go on about them starting to displace one of the top 6 .. on the strength of 1 title and averaging 31k....
attendances.... Man City are the 8th best all time supported club { the lowest of those 6 } currently getting 50k plus and whose average over 120 years is very similar to Leicester best 1 season average
trophies .... Spurs have the least ..2 titles 13 cups.... thats a title and 13 cups more than Leicester...
so aint going to be any displacing going on anytime soon....
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:12 am
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:23 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
so...on one hand youve got all these metrics proving one thing
but
then go on about them starting to displace one of the top 6 .. on the strength of 1 title and averaging 31k....
attendances.... Man City are the 8th best all time supported club { the lowest of those 6 } currently getting 50k plus and whose average over 120 years is very similar to Leicester best 1 season average
trophies .... Spurs have the least ..2 titles 13 cups.... thats a title and 13 cups more than Leicester...
so aint going to be any displacing going on anytime soon....
You've misunderstood my point. I mean displacing the top 6 in the sense that Leicester are physically in the top 6 and are matching and surpassing some of the traditional "big 6" teams in the league. I don't mean displacing them as a bigger club.
Until Leicester add another 30k seats to their stadium and win a few dozen trophies they'll be smaller than the likes of Arsenal and Spurs, but at the moment Leicester look to be on a bit of a rise compared to Arsenal who have been in decline for years and Spurs who look to have peaked 5-6 seasons back when they were title challengers, but have done little of note in the league since then.
Hope that's cleared it up.
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:29 am
Pencoed wrote:Judging the size of clubs by average attendances is a bit old school whether we like it or not. Global appeal/exposure of a club is what brings in money and unfortunately that completely dictates the game now. Guillem Balague when talking about the super league said unfortunately local fans, the ones that turn up to the stadium are no longer important to clubs in the top tier.
I don't like any of this but its the way the games gone.
Fri Apr 30, 2021 10:40 am
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
so...on one hand youve got all these metrics proving one thing
but
then go on about them starting to displace one of the top 6 .. on the strength of 1 title and averaging 31k....
attendances.... Man City are the 8th best all time supported club { the lowest of those 6 } currently getting 50k plus and whose average over 120 years is very similar to Leicester best 1 season average
trophies .... Spurs have the least ..2 titles 13 cups.... thats a title and 13 cups more than Leicester...
so aint going to be any displacing going on anytime soon....
You've misunderstood my point. I mean displacing the top 6 in the sense that Leicester are physically in the top 6 and are matching and surpassing some of the traditional "big 6" teams in the league. I don't mean displacing them as a bigger club.
Until Leicester add another 30k seats to their stadium and win a few dozen trophies they'll be smaller than the likes of Arsenal and Spurs, but at the moment Leicester look to be on a bit of a rise compared to Arsenal who have been in decline for years and Spurs who look to have peaked 5-6 seasons back when they were title challengers, but have done little of note in the league since then.
Hope that's cleared it up.
:lol..... it was clear originally, you wanted to make a point about Leicester being bigger than us and then completely dropped the metrics thing .... and yes clubs sometimes go through good and bad patches..MUFC got relegated but were still regarded the biggest club in the country... ??????????
Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:45 am
WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
so...on one hand youve got all these metrics proving one thing
but
then go on about them starting to displace one of the top 6 .. on the strength of 1 title and averaging 31k....
attendances.... Man City are the 8th best all time supported club { the lowest of those 6 } currently getting 50k plus and whose average over 120 years is very similar to Leicester best 1 season average
trophies .... Spurs have the least ..2 titles 13 cups.... thats a title and 13 cups more than Leicester...
so aint going to be any displacing going on anytime soon....
You've misunderstood my point. I mean displacing the top 6 in the sense that Leicester are physically in the top 6 and are matching and surpassing some of the traditional "big 6" teams in the league. I don't mean displacing them as a bigger club.
Until Leicester add another 30k seats to their stadium and win a few dozen trophies they'll be smaller than the likes of Arsenal and Spurs, but at the moment Leicester look to be on a bit of a rise compared to Arsenal who have been in decline for years and Spurs who look to have peaked 5-6 seasons back when they were title challengers, but have done little of note in the league since then.
Hope that's cleared it up.
:lol..... it was clear originally, you wanted to make a point about Leicester being bigger than us and then completely dropped the metrics thing .... and yes clubs sometimes go through good and bad patches..MUFC got relegated but were still regarded the biggest club in the country... ??????????
I'm gonna suggest the reason it was clear I was trying to say Leicester are bigger than us... is because I was trying to say Leicester are bigger than us. I think it's cut and dry but some in the thread disagree so I was giving my POV.
I dropped the metrics cause I moved on from the "Who's bigger" debate. I was just mentioning I think Leicester are a good example of a well run football club, I never said anything about them being bigger than the big 6 or Man Utd. There's no secret double meaning when I say I'm enjoying watching them displace the big 6. I literally mean that Leicester being in the top 6 has pushed out or "displaced" teams like Arsenal and Spurs from the top 6. Likewise with West Ham this season, it's a nice change and I enjoy watching the underdogs being successful.
Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:15 pm
skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:skidemin wrote:WestCoastBlue wrote:Not sure how it can be argued we're a bigger club than Leicester. Pretty much every metric people measure "club size" in they beat us.
In their entire history they've only spent one season outside the top 2 divisions, when they came first in League 1. They've got 51 top division seasons to our 17.
They've got more trophies than us and they've been to more finals than us.
Crowd sizes are similar, we got consistently bigger crowds in the 50's. However, last time they had an average crowd below 10k was the 1914/15 season. For us, we didn't have an average crowd over 10k between 1978 and 2001.
As a city, Cardiff is bigger (I think, it seems bigger at least) and our stadium is bigger but that's about it. We've got an FA Cup which they don't but that could change in a few weeks.
Despite the new stadium issues, which I wasn't aware of before this thread, I think Leicester are a great example of a well run football club and I'm enjoying seeing them starting to displace the traditional big 6 teams. Hopefully West Ham can keep up their recent good form and make English football a bit less Big 6 dominant
so...on one hand youve got all these metrics proving one thing
but
then go on about them starting to displace one of the top 6 .. on the strength of 1 title and averaging 31k....
attendances.... Man City are the 8th best all time supported club { the lowest of those 6 } currently getting 50k plus and whose average over 120 years is very similar to Leicester best 1 season average
trophies .... Spurs have the least ..2 titles 13 cups.... thats a title and 13 cups more than Leicester...
so aint going to be any displacing going on anytime soon....
You've misunderstood my point. I mean displacing the top 6 in the sense that Leicester are physically in the top 6 and are matching and surpassing some of the traditional "big 6" teams in the league. I don't mean displacing them as a bigger club.
Until Leicester add another 30k seats to their stadium and win a few dozen trophies they'll be smaller than the likes of Arsenal and Spurs, but at the moment Leicester look to be on a bit of a rise compared to Arsenal who have been in decline for years and Spurs who look to have peaked 5-6 seasons back when they were title challengers, but have done little of note in the league since then.
Hope that's cleared it up.
:lol..... it was clear originally, you wanted to make a point about Leicester being bigger than us and then completely dropped the metrics thing .... and yes clubs sometimes go through good and bad patches..MUFC got relegated but were still regarded the biggest club in the country... ??????????
I'm gonna suggest the reason it was clear I was trying to say Leicester are bigger than us... is because I was trying to say Leicester are bigger than us. I think it's cut and dry but some in the thread disagree so I was giving my POV.
I dropped the metrics cause I moved on from the "Who's bigger" debate. I was just mentioning I think Leicester are a good example of a well run football club, I never said anything about them being bigger than the big 6 or Man Utd. There's no secret double meaning when I say I'm enjoying watching them displace the big 6. I literally mean that Leicester being in the top 6 has pushed out or "displaced" teams like Arsenal and Spurs from the top 6. Likewise with West Ham this season, it's a nice change and I enjoy watching the underdogs being successful.
so are Leicester using your metrics 100% bigger than us and nowhere near even starting to displace a top 6 club....
or can what defines a big club or bigger club include things other than your metrics ? ..
in our case almost a 30 year one way decline with no investment between 1971/72 until Sam arrived... the recovery to where we are now being remarkable...
the club you support { i assume you do } is bigger than you give credit for...
Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:53 pm