My thoughts on modern football.

Here’s a thought, I’m 58 and I’ll be honest in saying that pretty much the only footy I watch now apart from Cardiff related is via YouTube and involves matches from the 80s and late 70s. I think football then was far more exciting. Premier league / division one anyway.
I often used to purr to my dad about Ian Rush etc during the 80s and he used to say ‘Not a patch on Stan Richards and Trevor Ford’.
Are people of my age (or any age really) used to a certain type of game that we’re brought up with so older generation fans generally get disillusioned with the ‘modern game’?
Will Youngsters 20 year olds who purr over the static passing game of today fall out of love with the game which will certainly change by say 2050

Yes mate.. enjoy the Big Match revisited more than modern games, although enjoy those also. Too sterile now.

But worst of all, we’ve gone from Saint & Greavsie to Jason Mohammed..

Here’s a thought, I’m 58 and I’ll be honest in saying that pretty much the only footy I watch now apart from Cardiff related is via YouTube and involves matches from the 80s and late 70s. I think football then was far more exciting. Premier league / division one anyway.
I often used to purr to my dad about Ian Rush etc during the 80s and he used to say ‘Not a patch on Stan Richards and Trevor Ford’.
Are people of my age (or any age really) used to a certain type of game that we’re brought up with so older generation fans generally get disillusioned with the ‘modern game’?
Will Youngsters 20 year olds who purr over the static passing game of today fall out of love with the game which will certainly change by say 2050

in amongst the we are going to save football and have our own world cup there has been quite a bit said about research into the game over the last few days.....apparently its the younger generation finding games too long { was suggested if the super league had got off the ground they wouldnt be 90 minute games ? } .. and not exciting enough...
personally i think TV football has passed the overkill point...so nothing is special anymore but expectations are higher

I get what you are saying but remember before the inception of the premier league in 92 football was virtually dead .check the attendances in the 80s/90s crowds were very poor prior to covid attendances are at a record high.problem is the greed of the big clubs is ruining it for everyone else.

I get what you are saying but remember before the inception of the premier league in 92 football was virtually dead .check the attendances in the 80s/90s crowds were very poor prior to covid attendances are at a record high.problem is the greed of the big clubs is ruining it for everyone else.

That’s a good point actually

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

I get what you are saying but remember before the inception of the premier league in 92 football was virtually dead .check the attendances in the 80s/90s crowds were very poor prior to covid attendances are at a record high.problem is the greed of the big clubs is ruining it for everyone else.

crowds were huge after the war and then steadily declined until hitting rock bottom in the mid 80s... there after steady growth which started before the premier league or sky tv... sky seem to take all the credit for this but the police were getting a handle on crowd trouble , clubs were already implementing the Taylor reports recommendations and crowds were on the up.... maybe sky drove them up further than they might otherwise have gone...who knows... but for all the TV money and extra gate reciepts and sponsorship that comes in one door it goes out just as fast another door... who is better off ? not us...we have millionaire players driving bentleys. { not blaming them because if we didnt pay them they would get similar elsewhere } all while our club has a nine figure debt... so tbh i dont much care how big attendances are now compared to the 80s... its all made the football league unsustainable without outside money and big loses..

Before my time. So I'm more of a fan of the Premier League than what came before it.



In response to those talking about Sky and the Premier League...

A lot of people are still angry about the creation of the Premier League in 1992.

I can understand that.

But it has annoyed me when people (not on here, that I've seen) have compared that to the Super League. You could still have promotion and relegation with the Premier League.

There are so many things that are wrong about the Super League which don't correlate with criticism of the Premier League.


People often seem to forget the amount of money that the Premier League have given over the years to help small clubs survive. Without that, dozens more clubs would be out of business by now. Although the Premier League clubs were slow in supporting clubs after Covid disruption began admittedly.

So for that reason, I find it a big strange that people have this weird vendetta against Sky. I'm no fan of Murdoch (although I'm aware Comcast now own it), but I've never really understood it.


The Premier League is the best league in the world. It's the most popular league in the world.

The reason for that is because of the money that came in when it was created and the money that Sky, BT and Amazon (as well as international partners) continue to pay for the rights.

Some people complain about how much money they have to pay for these subscriptions but there will always be people who pay it, which means these broadcasters can continue charging it - therefore continue paying obscene amounts to show games.


Many disagree strongly with me but it is what it is. The situation is certainly not going to change anytime soon either.

Before my time. So I'm more of a fan of the Premier League than what came before it.



In response to those talking about Sky and the Premier League...

A lot of people are still angry about the creation of the Premier League in 1992.

I can understand that.

But it has annoyed me when people (not on here, that I've seen) have compared that to the Super League. You could still have promotion and relegation with the Premier League.

There are so many things that are wrong about the Super League which don't correlate with criticism of the Premier League.


People often seem to forget the amount of money that the Premier League have given over the years to help small clubs survive. Without that, dozens more clubs would be out of business by now. Although the Premier League clubs were slow in supporting clubs after Covid disruption began admittedly.

So for that reason, I find it a big strange that people have this weird vendetta against Sky. I'm no fan of Murdoch (although I'm aware Comcast now own it), but I've never really understood it.


The Premier League is the best league in the world. It's the most popular league in the world.

The reason for that is because of the money that came in when it was created and the money that Sky, BT and Amazon (as well as international partners) continue to pay for the rights.

Some people complain about how much money they have to pay for these subscriptions but there will always be people who pay it, which means these broadcasters can continue charging it - therefore continue paying obscene amounts to show games.


Many disagree strongly with me but it is what it is. The situation is certainly not going to change anytime soon either.

think you need to look a bit harder mate..... and its not a vendeta... theyve created a very unfair system and sorry but throwing a bit of cash while under pressure to do so at a problem they caused doesnt make them saviours... some people forget....how.... your last sentence is spot on.....the rich will get richer and the not so rich will get poorer trying to compete...

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

How nice of Sven to drag me into this. He's the forum troll and must have a thing for me.

Fu.. sky
Fu.. Bt
Fu... the Prem
Fu.. city tv
Fu.. Overpriced Merchandise
Fu.. Overpriced Tickets
Fu.... corporate greed
Fu... over paid player

Dpeak up for the liitle man not corps. Because these fu... piss all over your loyalty. Clap all you want these clubs dont give a fu... This week confirms it .


Walk the talk people. 20 is plenty for away games and home games with cheap tickets for kids and students. Old age 100 for seadon ticket.

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

How nice of Sven to drag me into this. He's the forum troll and must have a thing for me.

Fu.. sky
Fu.. Bt
Fu... the Prem
Fu.. city tv
Fu.. Overpriced Merchandise
Fu.. Overpriced Tickets
Fu.... corporate greed
Fu... over paid player

Dpeak up for the liitle man not corps. Because these fu... piss all over your loyalty. Clap all you want these clubs dont give a fu... This week confirms it .


Walk the talk people. 20 is plenty for away games and home games with cheap tickets for kids and students. Old age 100 for seadon ticket.

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

How nice of Sven to drag me into this. He's the forum troll and must have a thing for me.

Fu.. sky
Fu.. Bt
Fu... the Prem
Fu.. city tv
Fu.. Overpriced Merchandise
Fu.. Overpriced Tickets
Fu.... corporate greed
Fu... over paid player

Dpeak up for the liitle man not corps. Because these fu... piss all over your loyalty. Clap all you want these clubs dont give a fu... This week confirms it .


Walk the talk people. 20 is plenty for away games and home games with cheap tickets for kids and students. Old age 100 for seadon ticket.

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

How nice of Sven to drag me into this. He's the forum troll and must have a thing for me.

Fu.. sky
Fu.. Bt
Fu... the Prem
Fu.. city tv
Fu.. Overpriced Merchandise
Fu.. Overpriced Tickets
Fu.... corporate greed
Fu... over paid player

Speak up for the liitle man not corps. Because these corporate fu... piss all over your loyalty. Clap all you want these clubs dont give a fu... This week confirms it .


Walk the talk people. 20 is plenty for away games and home games with cheap tickets for kids and students. Old age 100 for seadon ticket.

I have found this weird season that I am often choosing to watch a championship or even a L1 game over a premier league game when they are both on sky.

I can't wait to get down the Cardiff City Stadium but when my sky football contract runs out I am genuinely thinking of not renewing. I agree with the above comment, football is not special anymore it's a victim of its own overkill.

I wanted the super league to start and hoped the "big 6" would leave as it would let the rest of us get on with our game. I really don give one if city's highest-paid player is only on £250k a year rather than £1 million, it means nawt to me.

The big 6 are right (although it's really Man U and Liverpool) they attract the majority of the money but without the vehicle of the premier league, they are just a stadium, training facilities, and a squad of overpaid young men.

And this is the crux of the issue, i don't care if the premier league brings in 1 billion or 10 billion dollars. The only ones who care are the owners, players, and agents of those players and managers. Same with the championship. If the money dramatically goes down it only affects the footballing professionals. Season tickets can't go up as there is only a finite amount someone is willing to pay to watch a game of football.

I agree that the game has become boring, there are far too many breaks for players to roll up their socks and check their hair. The Son thing at spurs last week was embarrassing, if he was down for 5 mins with a "head injury" he should have gone off for his "protection" and a full assessment.

The big boys have never been so weak, now is the time to ram through a lot of changes, but they won't as the big 6's crime was to rock the gravy train, so the rest will let them forget about this pretty quickly.

The players are better today. Better diets, coaching, conditioning but there are very few artists or free spirits, the game plan is king as the analysts have killed the fun. I doubt a fit Tomlin makes it into this setup as he can't cover his defensive duties and decent opposition will exploit this. Have a look at the setup in the Cardiff city tunnel for the stats boys.

Some great points in there; and one word that stands out from all others is 'SKY'...

Without a shadow the most postive/negative influence on football (certainly in the UK) even taking into account our own Alun Evans (the man who wanted us and others in the Welsh Pyramid)

They (SKY) have two agendas; first of all 'money' and secondly 'control'

I won't go down the money route here in the knowledge it will only wake up the insanely jealous B£ue £agoon, so I will just refer to the so-called 'market forces' created by SKY and others that allow these figures to be paid

The 'control' thing is maybe the bigger factor and it is my opinion that SKY have routinely set agendas and pursued them until they happened (the sacking of certain managers is an immediate an example) and this 'need to control' is shown over the last few days with their vehement and vitriolic condemnatilon of the ESL since it was announced...

I'm all for them condemning a poorly conceived/receivef concept, just as I am impressed with the public stances of Manchester United and Liverpool stalwarts Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher

But I do question 'What would SKY Sports reaction have been had they been invited to the party aa the main media outlet rather than another corporation...????"

Sadly, for all SKY's damning views on the subject, I suspect they might just have wanted 'in'

How nice of Sven to drag me into this. He's the forum troll and must have a thing for me.

Fu.. sky
Fu.. Bt
Fu... the Prem
Fu.. city tv
Fu.. Overpriced Merchandise
Fu.. Overpriced Tickets
Fu.... corporate greed
Fu... over paid player

Dpeak up for the liitle man not corps. Because these fu... piss all over your loyalty. Clap all you want these clubs dont give a fu... This week confirms it .


Walk the talk people. 20 is plenty for away games and home games with cheap tickets for kids and students. Old age 100 for seadon ticket.

didnt see our name or crest in all that super league stuff... ???????????
has Tan been at the rebranding again and i missed it...

Here’s a thought, I’m 58 and I’ll be honest in saying that pretty much the only footy I watch now apart from Cardiff related is via YouTube and involves matches from the 80s and late 70s. I think football then was far more exciting. Premier league / division one anyway.
I often used to purr to my dad about Ian Rush etc during the 80s and he used to say ‘Not a patch on Stan Richards and Trevor Ford’.
Are people of my age (or any age really) used to a certain type of game that we’re brought up with so older generation fans generally get disillusioned with the ‘modern game’?
Will Youngsters 20 year olds who purr over the static passing game of today fall out of love with the game which will certainly change by say 2050

Modern football is dogshit from tip to bottom, over paid fannys falling over and actors. Then you got the VAR bollocks to check if a gust if wind come between the two players just before a goal. It's pathetic but I only watch Cardiff so the prem makes no diff to me. Although we got some over paid fannys to like all clubs.

Might seem a bit random but was slowly losing interest in premier league when it really hit home to me how really pathetic these modern day prima donnas with there girly hairstyles are
That was when yaya toure from Manchester City spat his dummy when the club didn’t make him a birthday cake and threatened to leave the club PATHETIC and embarrassing

As Souness said last night, it’s becoming the French League. Shit refs and VAR, cheating players is all making for poor viewing. Throw in the constant propaganda and handball law, it’s becoming a turn off is Sky..

Watching games in plastic stadium is also a crap experience.. CCS is soulless

It seems to me todays football is a machine where the only excitement is when one of the coxs break.

I watched a game at Taffs Wells some years ago, Merthyr v Some Bristol club. The standard of football reminded me of the 70/80s mistakes were a plenty and some embarrassing. I stood with the away team players that were not in their squad for the game. They didn't half slag off their own players when a mistake was made. The finger back from the said player to his mates added to the enjoyment.