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Re: The real problem at CCFC

Fri Apr 09, 2021 9:33 am

Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:The current problem is that MM had a great system that fitted the players and we've lost Bennett, Morrison, NG (although if fit should fly back in and Kiefer is knackered.

This system was all about quality wingbacks that could play the system both going forward and defending, both were good defending with and without the ball.

We look like a different team.



agree... bit disappointed with Mick sticking with it though...



Totally agree if you don't have the players sometimes you have to change the system :thumbup:


Our problems were at right back and left back.

Changing the system might not have helped. Ralls as a left wing back is a lot better than Ralls as a left back.

Re: The real problem at CCFC

Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:44 pm

Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:The current problem is that MM had a great system that fitted the players and we've lost Bennett, Morrison, NG (although if fit should fly back in and Kiefer is knackered.

This system was all about quality wingbacks that could play the system both going forward and defending, both were good defending with and without the ball.

We look like a different team.



agree... bit disappointed with Mick sticking with it though...



Totally agree if you don't have the players sometimes you have to change the system :thumbup:



surprised he didnt ... and tbh i thought making the system suit the attributes of the players available was what Mick was all about....

Re: The real problem at CCFC

Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:04 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bluebina wrote:The current problem is that MM had a great system that fitted the players and we've lost Bennett, Morrison, NG (although if fit should fly back in and Kiefer is knackered.

This system was all about quality wingbacks that could play the system both going forward and defending, both were good defending with and without the ball.

We look like a different team.



agree... bit disappointed with Mick sticking with it though...



Totally agree if you don't have the players sometimes you have to change the system :thumbup:



surprised he didnt ... and tbh i thought making the system suit the attributes of the players available was what Mick was all about....


Imagine he had changed the system that worked and we started losing? He was on a hiding to nothing.

Re: The real problem at CCFC

Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:05 pm

skidemin wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The real problem at CCFC is the amount of managers we have had at the club since the Dave Jones era.

Under Dave Jones who served us for 6 years we knew what we were getting. One minute good football the next crap. Since then we just haven't a clue what we will get. Under Mackey we got boring but efficient football. OLE was a massive mistake that took us back 5 years. Slade sent us to sleep but got us stabilised while Trollope was the biggest mistake. Warnock was the bit of fresh air we needed but circumstances out of his control made it difficult for him to continue. Harris was up then down and now we are going through the same with MM.

Each new manager has inherited the previous managers squad and for me its been very clear that the new managers ways cannot work with what he has inherited. So this results in us going through a transition before we get it right. For me Mackey and Warnock were prime examples of that. So when we do get it right and get out of this league why oh why don't we move onto the next step?

We can conclude that changing managers has not served us well. One season in the Premier followed by several season in the Championship with all its frustrations I fear it will eventually push us back down to the lower leagues. Hopefully MM will break this mould. We as fans will need to get behind him but that is difficult when you get performances and results like the other night. This summer is going to be the most important one we will have for many a season. I fell we need to get rid of some of the crap from previous regimes and replace them with signings that give us some hope. We have not had much of that over the last decade or so.



and how did managers that stuck around fair ? DJ ? no stability because he had to constantly sell and prior to that jimmy Scoular who did finish 3rd once and had a few good cup results but also finished bottom half 6 times and one place above the drop 4 times in 9 years... when he eventually went in his 10th season he finished very much as he had started... 2 wins in 13, hadnt won an away game in 2 years and in the relegation zone...


We had an old squad when Scoular got us 3rd place. Anyway I'm bored with this subject so I will finish on a subject about my mate who decided to not have a haircut when we started our poor away run. None of us expected it to go on for 2 years and when we did final win away, at Orient I think, his hair was on its way to half way down his back. I can't remember who is was but we arrange for one of the Cardiff players to cut his hair. It's bugging me now who that was.

Re: The real problem at CCFC

Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:19 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
skidemin wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The real problem at CCFC is the amount of managers we have had at the club since the Dave Jones era.

Under Dave Jones who served us for 6 years we knew what we were getting. One minute good football the next crap. Since then we just haven't a clue what we will get. Under Mackey we got boring but efficient football. OLE was a massive mistake that took us back 5 years. Slade sent us to sleep but got us stabilised while Trollope was the biggest mistake. Warnock was the bit of fresh air we needed but circumstances out of his control made it difficult for him to continue. Harris was up then down and now we are going through the same with MM.

Each new manager has inherited the previous managers squad and for me its been very clear that the new managers ways cannot work with what he has inherited. So this results in us going through a transition before we get it right. For me Mackey and Warnock were prime examples of that. So when we do get it right and get out of this league why oh why don't we move onto the next step?

We can conclude that changing managers has not served us well. One season in the Premier followed by several season in the Championship with all its frustrations I fear it will eventually push us back down to the lower leagues. Hopefully MM will break this mould. We as fans will need to get behind him but that is difficult when you get performances and results like the other night. This summer is going to be the most important one we will have for many a season. I fell we need to get rid of some of the crap from previous regimes and replace them with signings that give us some hope. We have not had much of that over the last decade or so.



and how did managers that stuck around fair ? DJ ? no stability because he had to constantly sell and prior to that jimmy Scoular who did finish 3rd once and had a few good cup results but also finished bottom half 6 times and one place above the drop 4 times in 9 years... when he eventually went in his 10th season he finished very much as he had started... 2 wins in 13, hadnt won an away game in 2 years and in the relegation zone...


We had an old squad when Scoular got us 3rd place. Anyway I'm bored with this subject so I will finish on a subject about my mate who decided to not have a haircut when we started our poor away run. None of us expected it to go on for 2 years and when we did final win away, at Orient I think, his hair was on its way to half way down his back. I can't remember who is was but we arrange for one of the Cardiff players to cut his hair. It's bugging me now who that was.



i was at the Orient game which is how i remembered it had been 2 years as there was quite a bit of being mentioned in the press including your mates hair.... did wonder at what point did he decided to not have his hair cut ?
but my point was it could never happen in todays game...