Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:49 pm
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Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:54 am
Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:07 am
Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:05 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:25 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:29 pm
Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:38 pm
Bluebina wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
When I saw the team I though he was resting a few for the Swansea game, I think he wants a fresh Murphy and Wilson, he would love to win that game I'm sure.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:40 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
When I saw the team I though he was resting a few for the Swansea game, I think he wants a fresh Murphy and Wilson, he would love to win that game I'm sure.
Sure he does was he knows what is at stake but its about promotion and after last night it's a long way away in fact probably yo far away for us to make it even if nwin Saturday.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:42 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebina wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
When I saw the team I though he was resting a few for the Swansea game, I think he wants a fresh Murphy and Wilson, he would love to win that game I'm sure.
Sure he does was he knows what is at stake but its about promotion and after last night it's a long way away in fact probably yo far away for us to make it even if nwin Saturday.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:45 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
And that's why subs were needed earlier and more than one... you could see moore was too knackered to think properly a fresh moore would have buried two of those chances.... MM was flogging 5/6 dead horses at halftime and it showed should have put Harris or watters upfront with moore on 60mins because last night really was a must win game not a must not lose game as he's stated... now because of last night we got two more clubs ahead of us and potentially can be 9points behind 5/6 place almost leaving us with having to win 5 games in a row to try and bridge the gap assuming Barnsley/reading slip up enough in those 5 games for us to catch them..
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:56 pm
skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pm
Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wilson changed things I thought not Williams.
Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:13 pm
skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wilson changed things I thought not Williams.
well the 3 chances came before he came on....so he must be a very inspiring shouter...
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:38 pm
Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wilson changed things I thought not Williams.
well the 3 chances came before he came on....so he must be a very inspiring shouter...
did they? he must be! Lol
I just remember Wilson doing more on the ball than most of the others in a short space of time, I didn't see Williams do much?
I could have missed stuff though, I was a bit bored and frustrated by the end!
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:38 am
skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:Bluebina wrote:skidemin wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Crayfish wrote:I remember reading an Ipswich forum about McCarthy and one of their criticisms about him was that he was almost obsessional about not losing games and would always opt for the risk free option. Not making subsistutions when you need to sticking to the same team in the same formation. Granted he did keep Ipswich in the championship and they were relegated the season after he left but it was frustrating for the fans.
We are now playing like we only have one striker who can never be taken off the pitch and can never be joined by a second striker when he is on the pitch. When we desperately need to win can we never play with two strikers even for the last twenty minutes or is not losing so important it takes priority over everything even when not losing is virtually as bad as losing because of our league position.
Would point out that last Saturday Barnsley were 2-1 behind at Bournemouh and their manager made three half time subsistutions and Barnsley went on to win the match 3-2.I think our first subsistution last night was with 15minutes to go and was Ojo off. He was so awful he could have been taken off at half time for me.
You may well be right on this as i said last night he set out not to lose rather than win it.... and he as said if not going to win make sure dont lose plus he said couldn't afford to take moore off because basically way we played? Last night was crying out for change upfront later in game but Putting harris or watters on would have meant compromising elsewhere on pitch something he wont do if you believe in what's been said? But hopefully next season with pre season and couple of signings he will have team and players he trusts another of his problems is he doesn't trust some of the squad enough to play them something he's indicated as well.
i was frustrated at the non subs too , which was then compounded by him bringing JW on ahead of 6 players more likely to score than he is { based on career stats } .. but... the period between JW coming on and Harry coming on also saw us have our best 3 chances of the game..
Wilson changed things I thought not Williams.
well the 3 chances came before he came on....so he must be a very inspiring shouter...
did they? he must be! Lol
I just remember Wilson doing more on the ball than most of the others in a short space of time, I didn't see Williams do much?
I could have missed stuff though, I was a bit bored and frustrated by the end!
he was very busy mate... didnt do anything miraculous but him coming on did coincide with us having the chances..