COLD WINTER COMING?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... winds.html

To go with the barbecue summer we're always promised no doubt

yes its coming

yes its coming

The cold winter or the barbecue summer?

We have had a lot of northerlies through the summer whiuch have continued from last winter really. Lots of berries, and a lot of robins around at present.

hate winter, the colder it gets the harder it is to get up in the mornings!!

It's the wet I hate more than the cold

hate winter, the colder it gets the harder it is to get up in the mornings!!

Viagra might help you with that mate

I don't mind the cold. I find it quite refreshing. However, the wet is so depressing. I can tolerate them separately but not both together.

BEST STOCK UP ON ME THERMALS THEN!!!

we wont more SNOW

we wont more SNOW

If the council is going to grit the pavements as well as the roads fine, but otherwise, stay away snow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/antarctica/6121866/Scientists-identify-coldest-place-on-earth.html

There's always a brightside

SNOW = CHAOS ON ROADS+PANIC BUYING+FROZEN PITCHES
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY NO FOOTBALL !!!

but we got undersoil heating

but we got undersoil heating

we haven't. It was Ridsdale's hot air that defrosted the pitch before

Daily Mail? Ok.


Suppose they'll run with stories of people panic buying and stocking up, like they do every year.

Pathetic journalism, yet again, from the paper that insists "They took our jooobs".

Very low solar activity will also play its part hence as you say the likely hood for more blocking structures and persistent
weather patterns.
My concerns are with a very cold polar stratosphere keeping any blocking to mid latitudes and if a big SE ridge (heat ridge )
develops things could turn very ugly for cold weather fans. Again as you say the stratospheric profile will be very important
as we go through the Autumn into winter with the equatorial profile being just as important ( strength of the +QBO).
Big wild cards for me are...
1) where will the two main vortices set up shop.
2) SSW events either by rosby wave (planetary wave ) breaking or geoeffective solar flares (CME's) what with cycle 24 trying to show itself.
All said and done I still believe we will see some pretty significant winter weather across the UK and IF the SE ridge remains more suppressed or state side and a block builds in a favourable position then a big winter could be possible.
I am quite confident of at least one Scandinavian block forming this winter and with it a real taste of continental Arctic air.

Biggest factors are these:
1. Strong El Nino followed by strong La Nina
2. Lows sunspot activity
3. Arctic Volcanic activity

Look at the analogues, if anyone on here is old enough to remember the next few winters will be most like the 1920s. For the rest of us, look at the late 70s to get an idea of what they will be like.

I don't think this winter will be too bad. There's usually about a 2 year lag so the winter of 2011 will be the first real bad one.